Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-01 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <1251822081.3172.8887.ca...@shane-asus-laptop>, Shane Kerr writes: > Mark, > > On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 11:52 +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > > If you deploy BCP 38 to the customer level TCP is a good enough > > authenticator for updating a reverse zone via UPDATE. > > As I mentioned at the

Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6...

2009-09-01 Thread bert hubert
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Edward Lewis wrote: > At 4:05 +0900 9/2/09, fujiw...@jprs.co.jp wrote: > >> Performance problem will be solved by better code and new hardware. >> >> In my opinion, "Dynamically Generate PTR When Queried" works well. > > I have to ask based on the experience I had w

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-01 Thread Douglas Otis
On 9/1/09 11:55 AM, Doug Barton wrote: When IPv6 forces use of positive reputations, reverse DNS entries become superfluous. I'm sorry, I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Could you elaborate? We offer an email abuse tracking service that lists IPv4 addresses. Defending this service

[DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6...

2009-09-01 Thread Edward Lewis
At 4:05 +0900 9/2/09, fujiw...@jprs.co.jp wrote: Performance problem will be solved by better code and new hardware. In my opinion, "Dynamically Generate PTR When Queried" works well. I have to ask based on the experience I had with wildcards, how does this work with: 1) Zone transfers? 2

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-01 Thread fujiwara
> From: Mark Andrews >4.4) draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00.txt > [Alain Durand][15 min][10:30] At the IETF meeting, I had comments, but could not comment about this topic. Same topic was discussed in Japanese comunity this March and then, I implemented prototype "On the Fly" DNS server.

Re: [DNSOP] OpenSRS support for IPv6 NS

2009-09-01 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Paul Wouters wrote: Deployment of IPv6 nameservers was very hard because most Registries did not support receiving IPv6 information. In part because of the huge market share at Registers that are OpenSRS resellers, and the lack of support within OpenSRS. It took a while, but

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-01 Thread Doug Barton
Stephan Lagerholm wrote: >> I was actually thinking along the lines of "what would it take to >> actually populate a reverse zone of size /N?" where N would take >> various flavors like 64, 60, 56, etc. as an interesting experiment. > > Doug, > You will need 4 billion disks with a capacity of 400

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-01 Thread Doug Barton
Douglas Otis wrote: > This issue is largely about email acceptance policies. > > Saying IPv6 reverse DNS is not considered a practical means to determine > legitimate IP address use needs to be either stated or refuted. Well, the draft seems focused on the idea of rDNS for ISPs who hand out add

[DNSOP] OpenSRS support for IPv6 NS

2009-09-01 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi, Deployment of IPv6 nameservers was very hard because most Registries did not support receiving IPv6 information. In part because of the huge market share at Registers that are OpenSRS resellers, and the lack of support within OpenSRS. It took a while, but we[*] finally managed to convince Op

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-01 Thread Douglas Otis
On 9/1/09 10:34 AM, Doug Barton wrote: Shane Kerr wrote: Perhaps it makes sense to have two documents: 1. A document which says "you won't be able to pre-populate in IPv6 reverse like you do in IPv4 - don't worry about it". 2. A document which says "if you want to provide

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-01 Thread Stephan Lagerholm
> I was actually thinking along the lines of "what would it take to > actually populate a reverse zone of size /N?" where N would take > various flavors like 64, 60, 56, etc. as an interesting experiment. Doug, You will need 4 billion disks with a capacity of 400 Gig each just to get 100 bytes for

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-01 Thread Doug Barton
Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <4a9c783e.8090...@dougbarton.us>, Doug Barton writes: >> Mark Andrews wrote: >> >>> This was on the adgena for DNSOP at the last IETF 75. There was >>> much discussion. >> Sorry if I'm rehashing this unnecessarily. I did (an admittedly >> cursory) search of my lis

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-01 Thread Doug Barton
Shane Kerr wrote: > Perhaps it makes sense to have two documents: > > 1. A document which says "you won't be able to pre-populate in IPv6 > reverse like you do in IPv4 - don't worry about it". > 2. A document which says "if you want to provide IPv6 reverse for > some rea

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-01 Thread Shane Kerr
Mark, On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 11:52 +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > If you deploy BCP 38 to the customer level TCP is a good enough > authenticator for updating a reverse zone via UPDATE. As I mentioned at the IETF, this is simply not true. All because I let someone on my network doesn't mean I want t