Re: [DNSOP] Best Practice document on local copy of the root zone?

2007-02-10 Thread Akira Kato
> > I just compared the root zone as RedHat shipped it on Fri 07 Sep 2001, > > with the root zone as published on root-servers.org, and only B and J > > are different. So even using a 6 year old root zone will work fine in > > That is the 'hints' file - the discussion is about the full root zone

Re: [DNSOP] Best Practice document on local copy of the root zone?

2007-02-10 Thread bmanning
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:50:43PM +0100, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Pekka Savola wrote: > > > As Bert mentioned in the next message, the risk of outdated (and therefor > > out-of-sync) roots is real. > > I just compared the root zone as RedHat shipped it on Fri 07 Sep 2001, > wit

Re: [DNSOP] Best Practice document on local copy of the root zone?

2007-02-10 Thread bert hubert
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:50:43PM +0100, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Pekka Savola wrote: > > > As Bert mentioned in the next message, the risk of outdated (and therefor > > out-of-sync) roots is real. > > I just compared the root zone as RedHat shipped it on Fri 07 Sep 2001, > wit

Re: [DNSOP] Best Practice document on local copy of the root zone?

2007-02-10 Thread Måns Nilsson
--On lördag, lördag 10 feb 2007 21.50.43 +0100 Paul Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Pekka Savola wrote: > >> As Bert mentioned in the next message, the risk of outdated (and therefor >> out-of-sync) roots is real. > > I just compared the root zone as RedHat shipped it o

Re: [DNSOP] reverse-mapping-considerations: ambiguity?

2007-02-10 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Ted Lemon wrote: > To me, that is the sole use of reverse lookups. It is useful, and it's good > if people populate the reverse tree as a habit because it helps in this way. > But it is entirely correct to say that using the contents of the reverse tree > to make automatic d

Re: [DNSOP] Best Practice document on local copy of the root zone?

2007-02-10 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Pekka Savola wrote: > As Bert mentioned in the next message, the risk of outdated (and therefor > out-of-sync) roots is real. I just compared the root zone as RedHat shipped it on Fri 07 Sep 2001, with the root zone as published on root-servers.org, and only B and J are diffe

Re: [DNSOP] reverse-mapping-considerations: ambiguity?

2007-02-10 Thread Ted Lemon
On Feb 7, 2007, at 8:14 AM, Robert Story wrote: You are quite right, however, that I would be daft to have a firewall rule to a control port of a router that looked like 'good-guy.* ALLOW'. But that doesn't mean that the first use is unreasonable. Actually, I would argue that the first use *

Re: [DNSOP] Best Practice document on local copy of the root zone?

2007-02-10 Thread Shane Kerr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joe Abley, then Peter Koch say: > >>> I also don't know of any formal undertaking by any of the current >>> "real" root nameserver operators to leave un-authenticated [AI]XFR >>> access to their servers for the root zon

Re: [DNSOP] Best Practice document on local copy of the root zone?

2007-02-10 Thread bmanning
Joe Abley, then Peter Koch say: > > I also don't know of any formal undertaking by any of the current > > "real" root nameserver operators to leave un-authenticated [AI]XFR > > access to their servers for the root zone open, so there's the > > operational issue of needing to verify regular

Re: [DNSOP] Best Practice document on local copy of the root zone?

2007-02-10 Thread Paul Vixie
well, f-root is not RFC 2870 compliant on this point and never has been. ; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> @f.root-servers.net . axfr ; (2 servers found) ;; global options: printcmd ... ;; Query time: 505 msec ;; SERVER: 192.5.5.241#53(192.5.5.241) ;; WHEN: Sat Feb 10 17:54:15 2007 ;; XFR size: 2480 records

Re: [DNSOP] Best Practice document on local copy of the root zone?

2007-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews
> On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 11:09:51AM -0500, Joe Abley wrote: > > > root nameservers is TSIG-signed access to the zone data. This seems > > like it introduces an additional attack vector for someone who wants > > to subvert the root zone; you could announce a bogus route which > > covers a r

Re: [DNSOP] Best Practice document on local copy of the root zone?

2007-02-10 Thread Peter Koch
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 11:09:51AM -0500, Joe Abley wrote: > root nameservers is TSIG-signed access to the zone data. This seems > like it introduces an additional attack vector for someone who wants > to subvert the root zone; you could announce a bogus route which > covers a root server's

[DNSOP] [fwd] 68th IETF - DRAFT Meeting Agenda for Review

2007-02-10 Thread Peter Koch
Folks, > The DRAFT agenda for the 68th IETF Meeting can be found at: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_agenda_html.cgi?meeting_num=68. > Please note that the agenda is in draft form and is subject to change. the preliminary assignment is a 2:10 hrs slot on Monday evening 17:40-19:50