[dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Mirjam Kuehne
Dear colleagues, Please find a new article on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/ray_bellis/researching-f-root-anycast-placement-using-ripe-atlas In order to expand the reach of F-root, Ray Bellis looked at where queries to F-root are coming from and where it would make most sense to place

Re: [dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Randy Bush
from a discussion in montréal q: why do we anycast dns? a: for attack resistance, latency is a secondary effect q: what are the majority of queries? a: trash q: where should we place instances? a: near folk who need queries answered. bzzzt! no! a: near the sources of the rubbish so it can be a

Re: [dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Robert Kisteleki
> q: where should we place instances? > a: near folk who need queries answered. bzzzt! no! > a: near the sources of the rubbish so it can be absorbed quickly Perhaps it'd be useful to define the RQ (rubbish query) DNS flag? A'la rfc3514. Robert

Re: [dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Shane Kerr
Randy, On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:20:57 +0200 Randy Bush wrote: > from a discussion in montréal > > q: why do we anycast dns? > a: for attack resistance, latency is a secondary effect > > q: what are the majority of queries? > a: trash > > q: where should we place instances? > a: near folk who ne

Re: [dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Randy Bush
>> q: where should we place instances? >> a: near folk who need queries answered. bzzzt! no! >> a: near the sources of the rubbish so it can be absorbed quickly > > Interesting point. This suggests a better (new?) metric is needed. I'm > not exactly sure what this would be though. :) get out yo

Re: [dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Awesome name for a new appliance: ACA Anycasted Crap Absorber ;) On 10/14/15 11:30 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> q: where should we place instances? >>> a: near folk who need queries answered. bzzzt! no! >>> a: near the sources of the rubbish so it can be absorbed quickly >> >> Interesting point.

Re: [dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Joe Abley
On 14 Oct 2015, at 11:49, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: Awesome name for a new appliance: ACA Anycasted Crap Absorber If we had some reasonable measure of crap, it might be interesting to see how well the sources and traffic correlates with what is received on AS112 nodes. I appreciate that t

Re: [dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Interesting idea. On 10/14/15 2:46 PM, Joe Abley wrote: > > > On 14 Oct 2015, at 11:49, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > >> Awesome name for a new appliance: ACA >> >> Anycasted Crap Absorber > > If we had some reasonable measure of crap, it might be interesting to > see how well the sources and tr

Re: [dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Keith Mitchell
On 10/14/2015 01:46 PM, Joe Abley wrote: > On 14 Oct 2015, at 11:49, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: >> >> Anycasted Crap Absorber > > If we had some reasonable measure of crap, it might be interesting > to see how well the sources and traffic correlates with what is > received on AS112 nodes. I had

Re: [dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Bjørn Mork
Keith Mitchell writes: > As the loose co-ordinator of the AS112 project, OARC has been looking > recently at ways of improving measurement of the aforementioned crap > signal. If you are a large IXP or eyeball-ISP operator who would like to > co-operate with OARC on operating and/or data-gatherin

Re: [dns-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Researching F-root Anycast Placement Using RIPE Atlas

2015-10-14 Thread Keith Mitchell
On 10/14/2015 04:44 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Completely off topic, but this discussion made me look at the > https://www.as112.net/ site again, only to be greeted by a > terrifying(?) red icon by the TLSA validator plugin > (https://www.dnssec-validator.cz/) > > Is it only me, or did someone forg