Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2022-01-12 Thread David Conrad
Randy, On Jan 12, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > how does this avoid creating a nice well-defined target for: IP > shutdowns, censorship, saving children from abuse, terrorism, …? I believe that’s covered in section 12 of the solicitation (https://hadea.ec.europa.eu/calls-proposals/equ

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2022-01-12 Thread Randy Bush
since no one else has said it this time around the tree tracking the woozle, ... how does this avoid creating a nice well-defined target for: IP shutdowns, censorship, saving children from abuse, terrorism, ...? randy --- ra...@psg.com `gpg --locate-external-keys --auto-key-locate wkd ra...@

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2022-01-12 Thread Jim Reid
> On 12 Jan 2022, at 17:35, Ana Sen wrote: > > Would anybody know which stakeholders have the capacity to apply for this > call? I can think of several. But I won’t identify them by name. The obvious candidates are any of the larger (anycast) DNS providers, TLD registries, major registrars

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2022-01-12 Thread Jim Reid
> On 12 Jan 2022, at 17:09, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > Does it mean that the machines will not be on AWS or other US hoster? Stephane, that’s really a question for the EU officials who are in charge of the CFP. FWIW I think using AWS or whatever outside the EU for part of the resolver

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2022-01-12 Thread Ana Sen
and that the data used will not be stored in Gcloud, AWS etc. Interesting question, if you mean even studies or equipment used for the development of the infrastructure shall not rely on non-EU CSPs, the text specifies that projects must demonstrate 'that the network technologies and equipment (in

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2022-01-12 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 06:01:38PM +0100, Ana Sen wrote a message of 84 lines which said: > This aspect is also reflected in the call document, which foresees > an assessment of suppliers to strictly exclude non-EU entities, > i.e. non-EU entities are not eligible for this call. Yes, I notice

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2022-01-12 Thread Ana Sen
Paper mentioned above: Consolidation in the DNS resolver market – how much, how fast, how dangerous? by Roxana Radu and Michael Hausding On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 6:01 PM Ana Sen wrote: > J

[dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2022-01-12 Thread Ana Sen
Just to add some background that might betray some of the intent of this initiative. in the first mention of the DNS4EU in the Cybersecurity Strategy published in Dec 2020 a motivation for an EU based resolver to reduce dependencies on - note- a handful of non-EU companies, is marked by a footnote

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2022-01-12 Thread Chris Buckridge
Hi all, A further follow-up. The Commission today published the following Call for Proposals: https://hadea.ec.europa.eu/calls-proposals/equipping-backbone-networks-high-performance-and-secure-dns-resolution-infrastructures-works_en (hat tip to Anastasia Sendrea, who I don’t think is currently