Re: [dns-wg] [Ext] Re: DNS4EU?

Randy Bush wrote on 15/11/2021 21:29: you can't fool me, hilliard. i saw the black helicopter at the ietf near dublin. You didn't see any black helicopters! The men in black suits said they weren't there. Nick To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your

Re: [dns-wg] [Ext] Re: DNS4EU?

David Huberman wrote on 15/11/2021 21:31: I guess I'm not grokking why you think this kind of regulation would have no legal basis when regulators are proposing something very similar in eIDAS article 45 (all web browsers must accept CAs which we the regulators approve) and in NIS2 for root serve

Re: [dns-wg] [Ext] Re: DNS4EU?

Hi Nick, Thanks for the reply. > On Nov 15, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > What legal basis could be used to force service providers to outsource dns > resolution? I guess I'm not grokking why you think this kind of regulation would have no legal basis when regulators are propos

Re: [dns-wg] [Ext] Re: DNS4EU?

> What legal basis could be used to force service providers to outsource > dns resolution? And what exact market distortion / level playing field > problem would they be solving? This makes no sense. Regulators in the > european union don't have the extraordinary powers of edict that are > being d

Re: [dns-wg] [Ext] Re: DNS4EU?

David Huberman wrote on 15/11/2021 21:12: In addition the browser vendors, wouldn't regulators be able to define a class of orgs that are ISPs, then make a rule: ISPs must not do DNS resolution for your customers. Instead, you must forward to our resolver or you must announce our resolver's IP ad

Re: [dns-wg] [Ext] Re: DNS4EU?

Pardon for top posting. I'm sick and grumpy. In addition the browser vendors, wouldn't regulators be able to define a class of orgs that are ISPs, then make a rule: ISPs must not do DNS resolution for your customers. Instead, you must forward to our resolver or you must announce our resolver's

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

[RIPE Vice-Chair hat OFF] On 15 Nov 2021, at 16:44, Ralf Weber wrote: I can see no downside on that. Canadian people now use a in country provider instead of the default US based provider. As said the bad idea was setting a default. That at least is a better default for Canadians. Besides,

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

Moin! On 15 Nov 2021, at 7:57, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > Political pressure on Mozilla so that they use by default the DoH > resolver of DNS4EU? It is not "forcing" (users can still disable it) > but it is close. It was Mozilla that came up with the bad idea of using a default DoH resolver ins

Re: [dns-wg] mailing list management

Hello, Andrea. On 12 Nov 2021, at 12:43, Andrea Kurucsó wrote: But I have already done it many times, and keep getting the emails from you. Thx for writing, I know it is not your task...but don't now who to say it...the subscribe/unsubscribe thing seems to have no effect... I'm sorry that th

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

Le Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 12:57:06PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer a écrit : > Political pressure on Mozilla so that they use by default the DoH > resolver of DNS4EU? It is not "forcing" (users can still disable it) > but it is close. > The marketshare of Mozilla is so low today that it will be a drop

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

Stephane Thanks – I hadn’t thought of that. I was still thinking along the lines of them trying to force ISPs to implement. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Di

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 11:53:20AM +, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via dns-wg wrote a message of 119 lines which said: > I’d *love* to know how they expect to force anyone to use a specific > DNS resolver. Political pressure on Mozilla so that they use by default the DoH resolver of DNS4EU

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

I’d *love* to know how they expect to force anyone to use a specific DNS resolver. -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

Having played Devil's advocate with my question a bit, Stephane's and Nils' assessments strongly cover my suspicion by a full 100%. I still wonder when the compulsory use of this DNS resolution service will consequently start for EU citizens eventually... On 10.11.2021 16:08, Carsten Schiefner wr

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

On 11.11.2021 12:36, Andrea Kurucsó wrote: > Hi, > > Please unsubsribe me...I keep getting a lot of emails but I have been > not involved in this work for ages nowI try to unsubscribe but I > keep getting email. > It is getting very annoyin

Re: [dns-wg] DNS wg co-chair selection: candidates

+1 Moritz /Jerry On 11/3/21 2:09 PM, João Damas wrote: > Dear all, > > The deadline for DNS WG co-chair candidate volunteering is now over. > I am happy to announce that we have two great candidates. > The period to express support for your preferred candidate(s) starts now and > runs until N