Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-12 Thread Franck Martin
A lot of people do not realize that the RNAME address is behind their anti-spam solution too. This could explain the low volume of spam being received. And it is not like you would receive the report of a spam email at this address (unlike abuse@). an abuse handle should be present in the domain w

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-10 Thread Doug Barton
On 12/10/2012 06:46 AM, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote: If anyone has any actual evidence of SOA data being used for spam I'd love to see it .. I've been party to floods of spam arriving at various hostmaster@ addresses, but I think that had everything to do with that specific address (a

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-10 Thread Edward Lewis
On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:46, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote: > If anyone has any actual evidence of SOA data being used for spam I'd love to > see it .. Reading this thread and replying in general, no one is claiming that the RNAME leads to spam, it's that one (one!) of the old spouse's tale

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-10 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
-Original Message- From: Chris Thompson Reply-To: "c...@cam.ac.uk" Date: Monday, December 10, 2012 9:40 AM To: Joe Abley Cc: DNS Operations List Subject: Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA >On Dec 6 2012, Joe Abley wrote, in re the SOA.rname field: > >>

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-10 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
From: dns-operations-boun...@lists.dns-oarc.net [dns-operations-boun...@lists.dns-oarc.net] on behalf of Chris Thompson [c...@cam.ac.uk] Sent: 10 December 2012 14:40 To: Joe Abley Cc: DNS Operations List Subject: Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA On Dec 6 2012, Joe Abley wrote,

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-10 Thread Chris Thompson
On Dec 6 2012, Joe Abley wrote, in re the SOA.rname field: It's used for (a) legitimate operational communication with a zone maintainer, and (b) source data for people harvesting addresses in order to send spam. Since the e-mail resulting from (b) greatly outnumbers the e-mail resulting from

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-06 Thread Joe Abley
On 2012-12-05, at 20:24, Feng He wrote: > for the soa record, i.e, > google.com. 43199 IN SOA ns1.google.com. > dns-admin.google.com. 2012113000 7200 1800 1209600 300 > > Though I know dns-admin.google.com is an email address standing for > dns-ad...@google.com > > I h

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-06 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2012-12-06 at 10:57 +0200, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > On 06.12.12 06:29, Phil Pennock wrote: > > Gmail offers what was, at the time they introduced it, an _unusual_ > > canonicalisation, which may have become more widespread now. It makes > > a lot of sense. Gmail says that, for mail to one of th

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-06 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 06.12.12 06:29, Phil Pennock wrote: Gmail offers what was, at the time they introduced it, an _unusual_ canonicalisation, which may have become more widespread now. It makes a lot of sense. Gmail says that, for mail to one of their domains, dots are not significant and canonicalise away. T

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-05 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2012-12-05 at 20:32 -0500, Andrew Latham wrote: > It is informational only and often unchecked or audited by > organizations. The purpose is to discuss DNS related issues with the > DNS admin and dots in email user names are considered a wild card and > would simply be compacted so foo@goog

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-05 Thread Andrew Latham
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Feng He wrote: > Hello, > > for the soa record, i.e, > google.com. 43199 IN SOA ns1.google.com. > dns-admin.google.com. 2012113000 7200 1800 1209600 300 > > Though I know dns-admin.google.com is an email address standing for > dns-ad...@google

Re: [dns-operations] email address in SOA

2012-12-05 Thread P Vixie
It would be written foo\.bar.gmail.com since the first dot shown is inside a label. Feng He wrote: >Hello, > >for the soa record, i.e, >google.com. 43199 IN SOA ns1.google.com. >dns-admin.google.com. 2012113000 7200 1800 1209600 300 > >Though I know dns-admin.google.com