Re: [dns-operations] DNS .com/.net resolution problems in the Asia/Pacific region

2023-07-13 Thread Paul Vixie via dns-operations
--- Begin Message --- On Thu Jul 13, 2023 at 7:16 PM UTC, Gavin McCullagh wrote: > ... > > I assume lots of us on this mailing list operate authoritative dns > servers. When one of our PoPs or nameservers is unresponsive, most of us > rely on retries against other nameservers (aka PoPs) to ensure

Re: [dns-operations] DNS .com/.net resolution problems in the Asia/Pacific region

2023-07-13 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Hi, On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 1:18 PM Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 12:16:37PM -0700, Gavin McCullagh wrote: > > > When faced with ~4x obviously bogus, broken nameservers (the stale pop) > and > > ~9x fresh working nameservers with valid signatures, the DNSSEC RFCs > appear > >

Re: [dns-operations] DNS .com/.net resolution problems in the Asia/Pacific region

2023-07-13 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 12:16:37PM -0700, Gavin McCullagh wrote: > When faced with ~4x obviously bogus, broken nameservers (the stale pop) and > ~9x fresh working nameservers with valid signatures, the DNSSEC RFCs appear > to specify (and Unbound appears to implement) that resolvers must accept >

Re: [dns-operations] DNS .com/.net resolution problems in the Asia/Pacific region

2023-07-13 Thread Gavin McCullagh
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023, 5:28 PM Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > > > On Jul 11, 2023, at 8:24 PM, Gavin McCullagh wrote: > > That is true of course, but the magnitude of this event was made much > worse by dnssec. The entire COM and NET zones being bogus (including the > unsigned delegations) is very