https://dot.kde.org/2016/04/05/kde-presents-its-vision-future
I like it. Ditto for the comments on Accessibility (a11y).
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On 04/16/2016 08:13 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 16/04/2016 19:47, Noel Torres a écrit :
>>
>> I regularly use aptitude's CUI (I use to name it as text-mode GUI).
>> Mostly because it has that wonderful "Mark as automatically installed"
>> mode, that allows packages to be more easily updated or remo
On 04/19/2016 01:38 PM, Go Linux wrote:
>
>> More to the point, what is being used s a bug tracker now? Something
>> on github, maybe?
>>
>> -- hendrik
>
> To report a bug, open an issue under the appropriate project in
> Devuan's gitlab (not github) at https://git.devuan.org/. You will
> need
On 04/19/2016 12:36 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Ascii will be the name of version 1, won't it?
>
1.0 is Jessie (upcoming beta...)
2.0 is ASCII
3.0 is B...
4.0 is C...
...
sid is CERES
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On 04/20/2016 02:38 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
>
> Nice page, next would be to populate the links with content, right?
>
Can you be more specific? Did you *read* the contents of the 404 page
you must have stumbled upon? If so, you know what to do.
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This thread contains a lot of praise for Devuan. I want to ask you
whether it's fine to use it on devuan.org for promotion. You're welcome
to reply here. I'll contact everyone individually to ask anyway.
Cheers
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On 04/20/2016 03:46 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
>>
>> This is not the first time apulse has been discussed on this list.
>> There was talk of packaging apluse for Devuan last year but that
>> conversation has been lost in time. Perhaps adding apulse to Devuan
>> will be reconsidered once the beta is ou
On 04/20/2016 07:55 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> Clicking on 'forked from Debian'
>
This is indeed one of the sections that remain to write. Generalizing
like you did is useless and misguiding. Don't forget that this is the
BETA site of the BETA, so it's normal that a house in-the-making does
On 04/21/2016 04:14 PM, Mitt Green wrote:
>
> From GitHub[1]:
> Project is in stale state since its proclamation.
> The main objective, working Skype test call,
> is reached. I don't have any plans for further
> development.
>
> [1]:https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse
>
Thanks Mitt. That means i
On 04/21/2016 08:17 PM, Mitt Green wrote:
>
> Frankly, no idea. I have never used Skype, nor have
> a Microsoft account (removed right after throwing
> away my Lumia; smartphones suck by the way).
>
> / Mitt
>
I guess you're my kind of a guy :)
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On 04/29/2016 07:16 AM, Lars Noodén wrote:
>
> I notice that the torrent file is not found on https://beta.devuan.org/
>
> Specifically the dead link is
> https://files.devuan.org/jessie/devuan-jessie-1.0-beta.torrent
>
This is the right URL. files.do is wrong.
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On 04/29/2016 11:40 AM, Jaromil wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Herb Garcia wrote:
>
>>So is the Openstack instance there?
>
> yes, the openstack image (cloud-init equipped) is tagged _cloud_
>
> and is included in the torrent.
>
_cloud_ is the worst label ever. Please tag it openstack, as
On 04/29/2016 03:02 PM, Haines Brown wrote:
>
> Let me elaborate. In debian, the firmware-iwlwifi package is found in
> the pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/ subdirectory.
> In packages.devuan.org/pool/, there is only a main directory, no non-free
> directory. Why is that?
>
packages.devuan.org is
On 04/29/2016 03:27 PM, Haines Brown wrote:
>
> security.devuan.org uses an invalid security certificate.
> The certificate is only valid for the following names:
> devuan.org, www.devuan.org
> (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)
>
> How do I resolve this?
>
Don't use security.devua
On 04/29/2016 03:30 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> Please arrange to relay these new mailing lists through gmane.org.
> They provides a very usable archive-as-usenet service.
>
> Or do you want me to do this?
>
Please go ahead!
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On 04/29/2016 04:16 PM, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
>
> Well done everyone, and I can't wait to replace my prod servers with
> Devuan!
>
Then don't :) Devuan has been running in production around the world
for some time now. This beta release is long overdue. Now we can work
on reporting and fixin
On 04/29/2016 04:24 PM, Haines Brown wrote:
>
> Thank you. That solved the problem. I put this line into sources.list:
>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie non-free contrib
>
This is wrong. You're using Debian repository directly: you're on your
own. You should use http://package
On 04/29/2016 04:54 PM, hellekin wrote:
>
> You should use http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ for Devuan
> sources. Not anything else.
>
Sorry, I meant AUTO.MIRROR.DEVUAN.ORG, as indicated in the documentation
and the default /etc/apt/sources.list.
packages.devuan.org is where Am
On 04/30/2016 08:25 PM, Don Wright wrote:
>
> I resolve them as:
> auto.mirror.devuan.org. 300 IN CNAME packages.devuan.org.
> packages.devuan.org.1800IN A 46.105.191.77
>
> auto.mirrors.devuan.org. 300IN CNAME www.devuan.org.
> www.devuan.org. 600
On 05/01/2016 08:17 PM, dan pridgeon wrote:
> Cirrus
>
> From: Hughe Chung
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNG] cloud
>
>
> How about cloudnine?
>
As much as I like Bucky Fuller, the goal is not to legitimize the
"cloud" term, but
On 05/02/2016 11:37 AM, Herb Garcia wrote:
> By that metric, using the phrase "cloud-init" is at least descriptive,
> and not marketing buzzword driven.
>
It reminds me of the silver ion spreading technique used in China to
create rain and wash Beijing's roofs from desert sand. Now *that* is
"clou
On 05/02/2016 09:15 AM, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> helle...@dyne.org writes:
>> auto.mirrors does not exist: only auto.mirror does. Unknown names point
>> to www.devuan.org.
>
> Auto.mirrors exists as of yesterday. It was on the devuan home page due
> to a typo. Nextime made the typo work, then fi
On 05/03/2016 10:28 AM, Jaromil wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2016, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>
>> Indeed we need a canonical FAQ for Devuan - one that contains correct
>> information and properly managed.
>
> best strategy for that is to restart it on our forum https://talk.devuan.org
>
FYI:
https://ta
On 05/03/2016 12:00 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> I definitely agree with you Jim, and this is certainly one aspect to
> be taken into account seriously. We should strive to allow the maximum
> flexibility in choosing an init system, ensuring that the set of
> constraints remains as small as possible.
>
On 05/03/2016 12:16 PM, Jim Murphy wrote:
>
> Problem, blkid uses a cache that is only updated when root runs blkid.
> Any changes are not automatically updated. A user only sees the cache.
>
> The issues is, fsr is trying to do everything as a "user" so tools like
> lsblk and blkid don't work f
On 04/29/2016 05:36 PM, Jim Murphy wrote:
> Minor but it would be nice to see Devuan and not Debian
> as the label.
>
> [snip]
>
> Would someone check and correct before the next release?
>
Follow up to
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/debian-installer/issues/52
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On 04/29/2016 09:50 PM, Haines Brown wrote:
>
>> Hellekin wrote:
>>
>> You should use http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ for
>> Devuan sources. Not anything else.
>
Update: auto.mirror.devuan.org gives you the closest (fastest) mirror
available, and is preferred.
On 05/03/2016 06:05 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:44:29 +
> hellekin wrote:
>
>
>> I want to call it "rabbit" or "Shub-Niggurath"
>
> I fear the latter name would not be well received in the United States.
>
Would replacing
As reported on IRC just a minute ago:
< Guy-> is it just me, or is there a DNS problem with devuan.org?
Guy-: http://travaux.ovh.com/?do=details&id=17875
dns anycast.me ( the CDN where devuan.org is hosted for
DNS ) is under dDoS
i will take care to
On 05/03/2016 06:10 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> IMHO the package should install [every init]
>
Some time ago I suggested an init-freedom package for that purpose, that
would provide init, and require at least one of the init systems to be
installed, like, e.g., mail-transport-agent does. Then it w
On 05/13/2016 10:35 AM, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have created a single torrent file for every installation image inside
> the 10 Gb and are actively seeding.
> Is there a way to add them to a website or wiki for easy access for
> everyone?
>
Hello,
This is not helpful.
On 05/13/2016 04:30 PM, David Hare wrote:
>
> http://paste.debian.net/683478
>
Great! Would you consider putting it on
https://talk.devuan.org/c/study? If you need help, please tell me.
I guess you can replace line 17:
if ! (dpkg -l | grep "^ii" | grep "grub-efi-amd64" |grep -v "bin"); then
You may also install desktop themes in your user's $HOME: ~/.themes/foo
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tc/motd" here. Sorry.
>
I tried this before, indeed the result needs tweaking. The screenfetch
entry for Devuan looks pretty good already:
hellekin@raiz
..,,;;;::;,.. OS: Devuan 1.0 jessie
`':ddd;
Today Devuan is number #91 on DistroWatch.com! We made it to the Top
100 is the first 3 days of presence on DW. Sweet!
http://distrowatch.com/devuan
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On 06/03/2016 05:56 PM, Dan Purgert wrote:
>
> '~._
> ""+=+_ )(@ @)@@ @@ @@.@@@.
> '"@+.@''' @@@@ @@ @@ @++@ @?'''\@
> @@@+.@@ @@ @@ @@@@ @@@@@@
>
On 06/03/2016 04:58 AM, Jim Murphy wrote:
>
> Just out of curiosity does anyone know where
> DW gets the package lists they post?
>
Jesse explained that the package list is taken from `dpkg -l` running on
the default installation medium (when there are multiple versions, they
choose, e.g., the DV
On 06/03/2016 10:42 PM, Florian Zieboll wrote:
>
> That said, I wonder, what information any
> arbitrary init system would need, that can not be delivered e.g. in a
> simple XML file, packaged with the daemon.
>
An XML file, however simple it may be, is probably the last thing you
want to add to
On 07/06/2016 11:02 PM, Paweł Cholewiński wrote:
> Hi,
> during "apt-get update" error appear "Error
> http://auto.mirror.devuan.org jessie-security/main amd64 Packages
> Undetermined Error".
Same here:
W: Failed to fetch
tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged/dists/jessie-security/main/binary-
On 07/24/2016 10:40 AM, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote:
>
> Apparently the bug has been fixed? Samba 4.2.10 installed without any
> problem or hickup today with AMD64.
>
The bug remains open and is unassigned:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues/61
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On 07/25/2016 06:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is a screenshot of my buddy's kernel menuconfig:
>
> https://sanitarium.net/x.png
>
Support for init systems, system and service managers:
[*] OpenRC, runit and other script based systems and managers
[ ] systemd
This looks like a h
about your preferences.
Please take the poll!
https://talk.devuan.org/t/devuan-merchandise/177/2?u=hellekin
Regards,
==
hk
[0]: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/issues/13
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On 07/29/2016 07:28 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>
> According to you, voters vote for a political party basing their vote
> on the party's electoral manifesto, then suddenly when the party wins
> the government, they can be told the government does what they think
> is best, and claim it best meets
On 07/29/2016 12:10 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> Can we get Joey Hess to review it?
>
I sent him a message on IRC and by email including the draft's URL. But
I don't know him personally, so I won't insist. If you're friend with
him and want to poke him, you're welcome. But as Steve said, we're
On 07/30/2016 11:14 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/uploads/30a5f6a2dbfb5124b4ba8c44a04ef334/devuan_logotype.sh.png
>
> Would look better if the encircled R wasn't there, though.
>
I agree with you. I'm clueless about legal requirements for tradem
On 07/30/2016 07:37 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> ..2 wise things we can use: the Full 4 Geneva Conventions offer the
> legal text of the 4 Conventions and its 3 Protocols Additional, e.g.
> Article 87 Duty of commanders ...
>
I'm sorry but I'm not willing to click external links to military
instit
On 07/30/2016 07:45 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> It doesn't hurt to just _ask_ Joey his perspective.
>
I did already, as I mentioned earlier in this thread.
For the record, here is the content of my message to him:
*
Subject: a toxic document?
Hello
I'm working with the Devuan project, and dr
On 07/30/2016 06:10 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Here's a screenshot:
>
> http://a3b3.com/stuff/devuan_org_compressed_lines.png
>
Ouch. Can you please visit the following page and make a screenshot? I
want to see if it comes from the software or the customization.
https://meta.discourse.org/t/cl
On 07/31/2016 02:20 PM, Paweł Cholewiński wrote:
>
> First law of software quality picture from nixcraft ..
>
Oh, they even provided a line of examples :)
BTW, I thought this suggests/recommends set to false were already agreed
upon, so +1 here. (Sorry I didn't take the time to read the whole th
On 08/01/2016 01:55 AM, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>
> I think it may be useful to add a question into the installer about this
> (probably only in expert mode) rather than blindly change the current
> setting. Where we are rebuilding packages we could certainly review and
> potentially reclassify rec
On IRC #devuan: hellekin: Can we PLEASE move on from
Discourse. Very few people are using it and those who are loathe it for
the most part. It's holding back Devuan's community growth!
Let me state it one last time, by email, so that it can be read by
everyone and we can have a
On 09/28/2016 03:57 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember the great, text formatted, human created Devuan
> Weekly News? It's sad to think the Devuan Weekly News was supplanted by
> Discourse Digest.
>
Oh yes I do. After Envite burned out on it, I had to take a lot of my
own time to ke
On 09/28/2016 03:57 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> For me, discourse is nothing but silliness. The discourse summary and
> discourse Digest emails I occasionally get are hard to read, boring,
> and appear to be HTML formatted. HTML formatted? Sy what???
>
If they appear to be HTML formatted, y
On 09/30/2016 11:28 AM, hellekin wrote:
>>
>> appear to be HTML formatted. HTML formatted? Sy what???
>>
Here's what RFC 2046 has to say:
Systems should recognize that the content of the various parts are
interchangeable. Systems should choose the "b
As you may have noticed, last week-end the security updates for JESSIE
and ASCII didn't work. We apologize for that glitch which reminds us
we're still in Beta. The problem was fixed and shouldn't happen again.
Recent changes in the devuan-keyring package made that the secondary
instance of Ampr
On 11/06/2016 02:59 PM, Giovanni Rapagnani wrote:
>
> Based on these observations, I think the information on [2] should be
> updated to tell DNG is the primary ML. devuan-discuss would better be
> closed and all the subscribers informed that DNG is the primary ML for
> getting help and discuss ab
The page at https://devuan.org/os/partners/devuan-distros is a bit
outdated and quite messy. I'd like to make a complete list of
Devuan-Based distros, including a presentation, link to the site,
distrowatch entry if any, etc.
Besides, a lot of people seem to choose SourceForge to host their
distro
On 11/06/2016 08:59 PM, Florian Zieboll wrote:
>
> BTW, I think two or three lines a month about the apparently heavy work
> under the hood would help to reduce the perception of discrepancy
> between the often-quoted "rock solid beta" statement and "accidents"
> like this^^
>
Yup. We have a Dev
Dear all,
for the third moment of its research-action vector on SMALL
SINGULARITIES, Dyne:β×λ is organizing a documentation sprint for Devuan
in December in Brussels. Precise dates are not set yet, but it will be
before Xmas and the 33C3.
https://bxl.dyne.org/vectors/small-singularities
This do
Our friends at UnixStickers put out Devuan stickers \o/
10% of the sales go to the Devuan project, so it's a great way to show
your support. Single copies are $2.69, down to $1.79 per 10 or more.
They come in two colors:
Black on white for clear surfaces:
http://www.unixstickers.com/stickers/li
On 11/09/2016 11:05 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> The final documentation should be done on something more permanent,
> based on the back-and forth in email. The talk.devuan.org would be a
> great place to put the finished docs. My problem with talk.devuan.org
> is when I used it for brainstorming. I
On 11/23/2016 01:12 PM, Simon Hobson wrote:
> hellekin wrote:
>
>> ... nobody cares
>
> As someone who is not really in a position to contribute much at all, let me
> say that I'm grateful to all who are working towards making Devuan "happen" -
> regar
Two months ago I warned of a low disk space situation.
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/todo/issues/33
Yesterday, talk.devuan.org started failing for lack of space.
Can't say more.
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On 11/15/2016 08:43 AM, hellekin wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> for the third moment of its research-action vector on SMALL
> SINGULARITIES, Dyne:β×λ is organizing a documentation sprint for Devuan
> in December in Brussels.
>
> https://bxl.dyne.org/vectors/small-singularities
>
On 12/06/2016 05:45 PM, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
>
> β stands for Brussels, λ for laboratory, and in vector calculus, × stands
> for curl. The curl of two vectors is a third vector normal (i.e.
> perpendicular) to both original vectors. A vector is something that
> has a direction. A singularity is
On 12/06/2016 06:26 PM, ja...@beau.org wrote:
>
> They're going to put money towards something that most every Open Source
> project has problems with - documentation.
>
More than money we're putting a lot of energy and sensibility into it.
People who participate actually care for Devuan, as they
On 12/06/2016 01:13 PM, hellekin wrote:
> On 11/15/2016 08:43 AM, hellekin wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> for the third moment of its research-action vector on SMALL
>> SINGULARITIES, Dyne:β×λ is organizing a documentation sprint for Devuan
>> in December in Brussels.
&
On 12/21/2016 01:09 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> The concepts discussed are deep, far reaching, and branch off a long
> way from software. I have a feeling that reading this document
> carefully would teach me a lot more than software. This is a manifesto.
>
Thank you Steve, this is the most beautif
On 12/22/2016 04:08 AM, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> As of now 3:12 UK time I can't access the https://talk.devuan.org/ pages.
>
Thanks. The machine is not pinging either. I'm not aware of anything I
can do since I only have SSH access to it, and there's
https://git.devuan.org/devuan
On 12/21/2014 02:53 PM, Ayan George wrote:
>
> I have to admit: I've been following the list and Ruben's posts and I
> think by in large he makes good points.
>
*** I think you're right. But his good points are entirely lost with
his aggressive, dismissive, defamatory attitude. Despite that horr
On 12/23/2014 11:23 PM, Noel David Torres Taño wrote:
>
> Instead of digesting for you the week on the mailing list, I want you to
> think carefully and say if Devuan Weekly News
>
> a) is useful
> b) should be coordinated with such announcements
>
*** Noel, I say yes to both points. Contrary t
On 12/26/2014 05:56 AM, envite wrote:
>
> Please all send me your public OpenPGP keys to start building the ring.
> I'll publish them all with some fancy stats once a week (like DWN).
>
*** Is the Devuan Keyring going to be privacy-preserving, contrary to
Debian's? As I'm not a government officia
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