[DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
Media partitioning, formatting Configure mountpoints Install Bootloader Install Kernel, Modules & Firmware Install Shell & package management software Configure console Configure network Boot Discuss... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://ma

Re: [DNG] Drive-by critique

2018-12-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/12/2018 15:22, KatolaZ wrote: [snip] > > Please find below the stats of the actual number of downloads of each > ASCII image according to https://files.devuan.org in the last 14 days > (without taking into account the other 24 ISO mirrors): > > - netinst: 149 > - DVD ISO: 13

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-16 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 16/12/2018 12:28, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 07:08:10AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > You see: in just two emails we have come from a *minimal* base > installation (a shell with a kernel, a bootloader, and a working > dpkg/apt) to a fully-functioning network server

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-16 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 16/12/2018 20:06, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 07:11:25PM +0000, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> That is my issue, focus has been lost on what an 'Installer' should do. >> A great deal is performed at install time that falls into the

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-17 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 17/12/2018 00:41, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 16/12/18 at 13:28, KatolaZ wrote: >> automagic disk encryption, > > >   Well, if you cannot install on an encrypted root, encrypting it later > is a real PITA. > >   The present impossibility of installing ASCII on an encrypted root is > a show-s

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 18/12/2018 13:19, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:51:53PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:28:43 +0100 >> KatolaZ wrote: > >> Also, Hendrik is right: If the bootable installer >> finds information, it should be saved for the secondary installer to >> use. >

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 18/12/2018 03:48, Steve Litt wrote: > [snip] > Perhaps reframing it would make a difference. Perhaps renaming the > second program "Install Software" (install_software), and having it > boot into install_software, would satisfy all but the most > windows-phobic that the sum of the two programs a

[DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
I often have difficulty with correct terminology despite having a very definite idea. The term 'Installer' applies to the first stage actions taken outside of the package manager such as partitioning, formatting, bootloader and kernel... which actually make the build host bootable. There 'may' be

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
[snip] > > You are confusing a simple config file that is read once and for all > during boot time (the config file on raspberry pis) with the complete > installation of a new system. They are not even comparable. There is > no thing like "oh I re-run the installer configuration to change the > la

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
> > I still fail understanding what you mean by "Program 2". It's called, > maybe, just "apt-get" or "synaptic". > OK, um.. take tasksel, clone it into two. In tasksel one [1], keep everything that is NOT optional (and is stateful). Partitioning, formatting, kernel, bootloader, package manager

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-21 Thread g4sra via Dng
> Here's a video showing how to create an encrypted partition using the > manual partitioning step in the installer. You probably did it wrong. > Don't feel bad - I did it wrong three times before I got it right for > the video, and I've done this before. > http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/misc/

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

2021-04-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 29, 2021 2:59 AM, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > G'day All, > > I've upgraded a staging server from Jessie to Beowulf and find a script in my > initramfs is now broken, tracking it down it is a huge change in behaviour in > the busybox vers

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

2021-04-30 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > Hi, > by looking at the latest git code: > > static const struct op operators[] ALIGN_PTR = { > #if ENABLE_FEATURE_DC_LIBM > {"^", power}, > // {"exp", power}, > // {"pow", power}, > #endif > {"%", mod}, > // {"mod", mod}, > // logic ops are not standard, remove? > {"and", and}, > {

[DNG] Devuan eBook Reader

2021-05-24 Thread g4sra via Dng
I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-25 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 5:42 AM, Simon Walter wrote: > Hi all, > > I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan. > The reason I wanted to do this is because the packages are available in > the default repos. > > After installing it on

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-25 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > > I sympathise, but am not sure this would (currently) be the best use of > > resources. > > There is an ever growing list of packaged applications that do not function > > without SystemD. > > If every one were identified, then removal of all from the repos may be > > justified. >

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-25 Thread g4sra via Dng
Thanks for chirping in Mark. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 4:37 PM, Mark Hindley wrote: > This is actually a Debian bug and should be fixed there. > > If cockpit requires systemd, is should declare that dependency. > > If the dependency were present, amprolla woul

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, May 31, 2021 8:25 PM, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > I received this e-mail yesterday, and again today: > > --- > > exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog on quixote.home has non-zero size, mail > syst

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, May 31, 2021 8:43 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 31 May 2021 at 21:37:30, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > Is deleting the paniclog the proper way to stop receiving these e-mails? > > > > No, don't delete it, empty

Re: [DNG] halt

2021-06-10 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, June 10th, 2021 at 8:37 AM, Simon Walter wrote: > I am researching the behavior of halt on various Linux distros. They > seem to be inconsistent. > halt has different man pages: > In ascii: > " > AUTHOR > Miquel van Smoorenburg, miqu...@cistron.nl >

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

2021-06-11 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, June 11th, 2021 at 2:58 PM, Fred wrote: > On 6/10/21 11:29 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: <--snip--> > > I did find the man page for udisks. I will study that and the article > for autofs. Likely one of them will work fine. The intended use 'autofs' is f

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

2021-06-13 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > > > > > > The udisksd man page says the daemon is started by dbus-daemon or > > > systemd. However, it is not started by inserting a USB device. > > > tried starting it manually (with USB device inserted) and received > > > this: > > > > > > root@aragog:/home/fred# /usr/lib/udi

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

2021-06-15 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > Unfortunately I am not able to find what package contains gvfs-udisks2-vo. <--snip--> apt-file search gvfs-udisks2-vo gvfs-daemons: /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor gvfs-daemons: /usr/lib/systemd/user/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor.service publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42

Re: [DNG] package search methods was ( USB mount problem)

2021-06-16 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Wednesday, June 16th, 2021 at 1:59 AM, Fred wrote: > On 6/15/21 1:24 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > <--snip--> > > > Unfortunately I am not able to find what package contains gvfs-udisks2-vo. > > > <--snip--> > > > apt-file search gvfs-udisks2-v

Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio

2021-07-03 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> Configure Alsa to use the 'dmix' plugin, RT(not so)FM. publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://m

Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio

2021-07-03 Thread g4sra via Dng
> On Sat, 03 Jul 2021 12:21:31 + > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > <--snip--> > > Configure Alsa to use the 'dmix' plugin, RT(not so)FM. > Er dbmix in chimaera. Thanks. 'dmix' is part of Alsa. > RT? FM? Read The Fine Manual ~ go to

Re: [DNG] Refracta have a static IP

2021-07-14 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Tuesday, July 13th, 2021 at 9:41 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > I'm trying to make my new Chimera based Refracta have a static IP > address at 192.168.0.199/24, in order that every other computer on the > 192.168.0.0/24 subnet can easily access it, and so I can put it on my > LAN DNS. > S

Re: [DNG] Refracta have a static IP

2021-07-14 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > > What does the following show (everythingish installed that triggers dhclient) > for P in $(dpkg -l | grep dhcp); do apt-cache rdepends $P 2>/dev/null | grep > '|' ; done > > If 'NetworkManager' rears its head.purge with prejudice would be my > advice. Arrgh! that command c

Re: [DNG] desktop-live chimaera isos

2021-07-23 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > > Hardware: > > 1. Netbook, CPU: Intel Atom N2600, GPU: Integrated controller, RAM: 2GB. > In this netbook the problem leave to appear afterwards to edit the GRUB > > to turn off the load of AppArmor, with apparmor=0. > 2. Desktop PC, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-25 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > Why I'm so critical about letting it crash: I typically deal with stack > sizes of no more around 2-8kB in automation devices and have to be careful > with that. You can't simply let a newspaper printing machine's motor control > crash, 1000's of newspaper pages would be trashed. Once

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-25 Thread g4sra via Dng
It accelerated in an uncontrolled manner until it crashed through the side of > the building and fell over in the field next door - at which point, all the > operators walked out ! > > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > There is nothing stopping me for applying

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Monday, July 26th, 2021 at 4:48 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Andreas Messer said on Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:38:23 +0200 > > > My feeling is, that you can not simply teach someone how to write safe > > software. > > Why not? You can teach a person to do anything else. But maybe not in > college, be

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, July 26th, 2021 at 5:39 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2021 Mon, 26 Jul 16:33:45 + > > g4sra via Dng scripsit: > > > [...] > > > > > It takes some effort

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > > > > > > Agreed, we must have all at least heard of Kevin Mitnick, > There you go with assumptions, something you should never do. I have > absolutely no idea who Kevin Mitnick is, I had never heard that name > until you posted it. > > Rowland It wasn't my intention to be educati

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-27 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Tuesday, July 27th, 2021 at 7:26 AM, tito via Dng wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 22:53:02 -0400 > Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: > > Hendrik Boom said on Mon, 26 Jul 2021 17:21:24 -0400 > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 11:48:53AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Andreas Messer said on M

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-28 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> This is why Devuan's installer will ask\prompt you to insert additional installation media such as a USB stick. There are just too many Gigabytes of Drivers required to satisfy every corner case, put the drivers your quirky hardware requires on a USB stick and use it when prompted! I

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Thursday, July 29th, 2021 at 6:58 AM, tito via Dng wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:26:07 + > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > <--snip--> > > This is why Devuan's installer will ask\prompt you to insert additional > > installation media such

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip->> > > > > There are just too many Gigabytes of Drivers required to satisfy every > > > > corner case, > > > > You would need to put Drivers and Firmware for every network device in > > > > existence on the installation media. > > Hi, > > let's add this up for example for amd64 >

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-07-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, July 29th, 2021 at 9:19 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > spiralofhope said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 11:00:48 -0700 > > > Once this gets complex enough it'll need to be self-hosting in a sense; > > check the rules against th

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-07-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Thursday, July 29th, 2021 at 10:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > g4sra via Dng said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:50:02 + > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Thursday, July 29th, 2021 at 9:19 PM, Steve Litt > > sl..

Re: [DNG] malfunctioning graphical application

2021-08-11 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> When you really have no idea where to start (after looking through all logs, obviously)... Use 'ps' with the '-o cmd' option to find out *exactly* how the executable is being invoked. After killing everything, paste the command in a terminal window and execute it from there. Watch t

Re: [DNG] malfunctioning graphical application

2021-08-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > The problem with mouse-drag does not occur on the other disk. <--snip--> > Of note is that when I start /usr/games/sol as root the problem > disappars---I can drag cards just fine. This implies that your issue is 'user' based. One of the re-occurring issues with (GUI) applications af

Re: [DNG] malfunctioning graphical application

2021-08-14 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Thursday, August 12th, 2021 at 11:47 AM, g4sra wrote: > <--snip-- > > The problem with mouse-drag does not occur on the other disk. > > <--snip-- > > Of note is that when I start /usr/games/sol as root the problem > > disappars---I can drag cards just fine. > > This implies that your issue

Re: [DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal

2021-08-22 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> If you wish to play around (view) what the fonts you have installed actually look like, 'apt-get install x11-utils' will provide you with 'xfontsel' which is mouse driven. It also indicates fonts missing from the system that it knows about as 'greyed out' in the menu selection, so yo

Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio

2021-08-23 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Monday, August 23rd, 2021 at 5:20 PM, hal wrote: > On 7/3/21 09:59, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > 'dmix' is part of Alsa. > > > RT? FM? > > > Read The Fine Manual ~ go to the Alsa website and read up on the 'dmix' > > > plugin, then go

Re: [DNG] random sudden stops

2021-08-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Thursday, August 26th, 2021 at 1:10 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > For the past few months my home server (running an ascii installation > physically moved from another computer) has been suddenly stopping all > processing about once a month. apparently at random. It seems to stop > instantly, lea

Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio

2021-08-28 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Saturday, August 28th, 2021 at 12:55 PM, hal wrote: > On 8/23/21 19:40, terryc wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 11:20:27 -0500 > > hal vmli...@charter.net wrote > > > > Thanks, I finally got this working yesterday. > > Care to share your set up? > Sure, glad to. I made a pastebin for it here s

[DNG] manpages

2021-08-30 Thread g4sra via Dng
Looking for the gcc..g++ suite manpages, expected to find them in 'gcc-doc' but it's missing. Anybody point me in the right direction ? publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature _

Re: [DNG] manpages

2021-08-30 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, August 30th, 2021 at 11:36 AM, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 09:42:25 + > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > Looking for the gcc..g++ suite manpages, expected to find them in > > 'gcc-doc

Re: [DNG] /run/user/#

2021-08-30 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Monday, August 30th, 2021 at 12:10 PM, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > Hello, > I have two Beowulf systems that should be identical. If I issue "df" > one does report among mounted filesystems a /run/user/xxx, where xxx > is the id number of the user I am connected with (via ssh) and the > other do

Re: [DNG] /run/user/#

2021-08-31 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Tuesday, August 31st, 2021 at 1:11 PM, Pontus Goffe via Dng wrote: > Among running systems I can quickly search I can only find one box > without /run/user and it has a custom monolithic kernel so perhaps this > is kernel specific rather than packages. Its not kernel specific. publickey -

Re: [DNG] /run/user/#

2021-08-31 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Tuesday, August 31st, 2021 at 2:52 PM, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 23:31:30 +1000 > wirelessduck--- via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > I've completely removed Xorg, rebooted the machine, and still it does > > > the same: when I log in as user XXX via ssh I see a /run/usr

Re: [DNG] Firefox, sudo and apulse (was Re: Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio)

2021-08-31 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Tuesday, August 31st, 2021 at 4:21 PM, hal wrote: > On 8/28/21 13:24, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > Install 'apulse' which are a sort of pulseaudio compatability libraries. > apulse hasn't been working for me with Firefox for at least a year now. I > don't know

Re: [DNG] Firefox, sudo and apulse (was Re: Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio)

2021-08-31 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Tuesday, August 31st, 2021 at 7:41 PM, hal wrote: > On 8/31/21 11:02, g4sra via Dng wrote > > > > > ctl.!default { > > > > > > type hw > > > > > > card 0 > > > > > > } > > > > > > Check to mak

Re: [DNG] Firefox, sudo and apulse (was Re: Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio)

2021-09-04 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Tuesday, August 31st, 2021 at 7:41 PM, hal wrote > On 8/31/21 11:02, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > ctl.!default { > > > type hw > > > card 0 > > > } > > > > > > Check to make sure you do not have a ~/.asoundrc overriding

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > Comments and better ideas are welcome. Apparmor publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://m

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:15 AM, tito wrote: > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:54:14 + > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > <--snip--> > > > Comments and better ideas are welcome. > > Apparmor > Hi, > the cure is worse than the disease ;-)

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:54 AM, tito via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:18:15 + > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:15 AM, tito farmat...@tiscali.it wrote: > > > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:54:14 +0000 &g

Re: [DNG] fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-09-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> A web search suggests that the following will compensate for the hardware issues you are experiencing I do not have your hardware and therefore cannot test. edit /etc/default/grub and add parameters for i8042 GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i8042.notimeout i8042.nomux"

Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed

2021-09-21 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > Net question: how to get a '/' in a file name instead of having it > interpreted as a separator in a path. > > I needed it once long ago when using a file system that had been built > on another OS. > > I resorted to using a hexadecimal editor on the raw disk to get rid of > the th

[DNG] Living Dangerously (was: Review of documentation needed)

2021-09-23 Thread g4sra via Dng
> g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > I opt to live dangerously..(shove an '-r' in there too if you feel like it) > > $ rm -i .* * > > this way you can delete illegitimate entries without hacking the filesystem. > > That is definitely dangerous indeed. I was

Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM

2019-10-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
No the intent is not to infest GNU/Linux with bugs. RedHat's aims have not changed from when they first introduced SystemD and they are achieving them on target which is why IBM bought in. It is to become the only Distro regardless of name, in effect the SystemD Operating System. Canonical had be

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
FYI: ext4 filesystem journaling (and swap) *should* be disabled by default on SD\SDHC media. On 08/11/2019 14:46, Joril via Dng wrote: > On 27/10/19 03:32, tom wrote: > >> The defaults on the linux kernel flags have the options >> rootflags=noload. This has the effect of disabling ext4 filesyste

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 08/11/2019 15:36, Joril via Dng wrote: > On 08/11/19 16:21, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> FYI: ext4 filesystem journaling (and swap) *should* be disabled by default >> on SD\SDHC media. > > To reduce wear? There is good documentation 'out there' about how SD\SDHC F

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-09 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 09/11/2019 20:53, tom wrote: > On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 16:55:34 +0100 > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > >> Anno domini 2019 Fri, 8 Nov 16:36:24 +0100 >> Joril via Dng scripsit: >>> On 08/11/19 16:21, g4sra via Dng wrote: >>>> FYI: ext4 filesyste

Re: [DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-09 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 09/12/2019 21:59, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 10:45:46PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: >> On Monday 09 December 2019 at 22:38:26, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >>> I have an sd card that used to be in an android phone. >>> My usual tools tell me very little: >>> >>> root@midwinter:~# lsb

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi build - missing lines in /proc/cpuinfo

2019-12-10 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 09/12/2019 21:55, Wojtek Sawaściuk via Dng wrote: > Hello fellow Devuaners ! > Any particular reason why on raspberry PI build, in /proc/cpuinfo there > are missing information about "model name" , bigger half of "Features" > line, "Hardware" , "Revision" and "Serial". > It breaks compliance and

Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
> The freedom to NOT run the software, to be free to avoid vendor lock-in > through appropriate modularization/encapsulation and minimized dependencies; > meaning any free software can be replaced with a user’s preferred > alternatives (freedom 4). Late to the party as usual FOSS and the F

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2019-12-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/12/2019 07:47, Rick Moen wrote: [snip] Thanks Rick, I appreciate that chain of summaries and the time it has saved now not having to dig through archives. Email has probably got to be one of my weakest areas of knowlege, I have learnt something today. When drawing my own conclusions I pay

Re: [DNG] Tried Debian Stretch with systemd out of constrainsts

2020-01-10 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 10/01/2020 17:28, Andreas Messer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 10:04:28PM +0100, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: >> [...] >> >> I still have yet not figured out how to avoid having to use snapd and >> install the firmware for the oscilloscope, Hantek 6000B (USB). I have >> successfully extracte

Re: [DNG] Tried Debian Stretch with systemd out of constrainsts

2020-01-11 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 11/01/2020 21:15, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On January 11, 2020 9:18:09 PM GMT+01:00, Edward Bartolo via Dng > wrote: > >> Knowing the vendor ID and the Product ID I should be able to >> communicate with the oscilloscope. Any ideas how this can be done? > > > Out of couriosity, I just websea

Re: [DNG] Update successful but video card issue

2020-01-31 Thread g4sra via Dng
1) Dont bin your video card, it is unlikely to help in the long run. On my (cough! yes I know but I did have valid reasons) Fedora system, I have been battling with Nvidia & Xorg drivers for years, they are certainly no better than AMD support wise. My system is currently broken, turns out the l

Re: [DNG] Update successful but video card issue

2020-02-01 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 01/02/2020 10:11, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 31/01/2020 à 13:50, g4sra via Dng a écrit : >> Do not be fooled into thinking blacklisting stops a module from being >> loaded, ensure you rebuild the initrd\initramfs without the driver. > >     Dunno if graphics driver module

Re: [DNG] Help needed:[Fwd: eudev: Methods to detect if running in a container.]

2020-03-30 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 30/03/2020 16:18, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Svante, > > On 19/2/20 15:17, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: >> Hello, >> >> No replies so far from the devuan-dev list. Maybe with a larger audience I >> can >> get some help! >> >> Thanks! > Checking� whether the *inode* number of the primary director

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-06 Thread g4sra via Dng
Minimal install from CD-Rom devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_i386_netinstall.iso on Pentium4 OK. Only one issue so far, had to manually run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' after reboot. On 15/03/2020 16:22, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Dear dev1ers, > > The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for re

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-07 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 06/04/2020 23:24, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 05:10:48PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> Only one issue so far, had to manually run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' after >> reboot. > > You might want to add to bug 419, so the devs are aware that

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 07/04/2020 09:48, Tomasz Kundera via Dng wrote: > Zoom has dedicated clients for Debian. It works in ascii at least. Personal experiences.. zoom became more stable after upgrading from ascii to beowulf. zoom would\will not launch from firefox, no issues launching from terminal and manually ent

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 07/04/2020 14:23, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Tue, 7 Apr 13:07:47 + > dal scripsit: >>> From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of g4sra via Dng >>> Sent: den 7 april 2020 14:31 >> >>> zoom is not an evil company, un

Re: [DNG] Current state of VPN software ?

2020-04-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 08/04/2020 21:21, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Wed, 8 Apr 21:14:05 +0100 > Simon Hobson scripsit: >> It's been a while since I last did anything with VPNs on Linux, and I recall >> there being 3 options, some of which were "less well supported" than others. >> I'm looking to s

[DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
Just had an issue migrating to Devuan Beowulf. Where was I *supposed* to obtain the devuan-keyring from to authenticate the repository ? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
t it from ;) > > On 26/04/2020 12:15, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> Just had an issue migrating to Devuan Beowulf. >> Where was I *supposed* to obtain the devuan-keyring from to authenticate the >> repository ? >> ___ >> Dn

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 26/04/2020 15:09, Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 26 April 2020 at 16:02:00, g4sra via Dng wrote: > >> On 26/04/2020 12:31, Mike Tubby wrote: >>> Try this: >>> >>> https://devuan.org/os/keyring/ >> >> Wrong key 0x94532124541922FB, requir

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-27 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 26/04/2020 21:13, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 4/26/20 6:54 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> Apt refused to acknowledge that the package even existed. > > 1) > # wget > http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb

Re: [DNG] waagent

2020-04-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/04/2020 15:28, Peter Duffy wrote: > (Apologies if I've posted this to the wrong list - shall I repost it to > the devuan-dev list?) > > On Wed, 2020-04-29 at 15:21 +0100, Peter Duffy wrote: >> I'm currently setting up a virtualbox image based on Devuan ASCII, for >> eventual upload to azure

[DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread g4sra via Dng
I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics 'killing init' on Devuan. Has anybody else experienced this ? The only difference I can discern is that the Devuan repository executables (init) are compiled as PIE. Any suggestions to further the diagnosis of this issue

Re: [DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 17/05/2020 20:26, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Sun, 17 May 13:20:13 +0100 > g4sra via Dng scripsit: >> I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics >> 'killing init' on Devuan. >> Has anybody else experienced this

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-21 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 21/05/2020 21:24, Rick Moen via Dng wrote: > Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): > >> When a company takes action to increase its share of the market and/or >> its cash flow, we normally do not call that a conspiration. It is >> legitimate to write about it and discuss the actions it takes. >

[DNG] FYI: TDE and Knotify crash

2020-05-27 Thread g4sra via Dng
Just suffered knotify crash with Trinity Desktop Environment on a new build. The fix for me was to oust consolekit in favor of elogind. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] eudev-related problems after Beowulf upgrade

2020-06-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/06/2020 15:05, David Kuehling via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded three machines from Devuan ascii to Devuan beowulf. Now one > of these machines has non-deterministic problems during startup that > look like being related to eudev. As that machine was originally > derived by cloning the h

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/06/2020 16:01, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Hi, Hi, I know *nothing* about Odroid > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's internal > flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive attached. > When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process h

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/06/2020 16:01, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Hi, > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's internal > flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive attached. > When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process hangs forever. I can > ping it, so

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-14 Thread g4sra via Dng
-- snip -- > Only mounting the filesystem fails. How do you know the mount is failing ? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-15 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 15/06/2020 05:33, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Am 2020-06-14 22:54, schrieb g4sra via Dng: >> How do you know the mount is failing ? > > It's not mounted after mount command. I have not seen any evidence of that, can you p

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-15 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 15/06/2020 12:59, richard lucassen via Dng wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:48:16 +0100 > g4sra via Dng wrote: > >>>> How do you know the mount is failing ? >>> >>> It's not mounted after mount command. >> >> I have not seen any evide

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 07/08/2020 21:01, Haines Brown wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote: > >> Post your backup script for others to look over. > > > #!/bin/bash > a="=" > b="Start: " > c=$(date) > mount /mnt/backup & 1) Don't

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 08/08/2020 14:53, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 07/08/2020 21:01, Haines Brown wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote: > E.g. /etc/fstab >/dev/XXX /mnt/backup ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 That should be /dev/XXX /mnt/backup ntfs-3g defa

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 09/08/2020 16:55, Haines Brown wrote: > On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 02:53:13PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> 3) abort if the mount fails >> [ $? -eq 0 ] || {echo "Mount Failed!"; exit 1;} > > I put this line into my backup script and only got a syntax error. My

Re: [DNG] measure memory usage

2020-08-22 Thread g4sra via Dng
Your query does not make sense to me. On 21/08/2020 21:23, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Is there a way for process to ask about its own memory usage? > > Something perhaps like the C functions that were available in the dark > ages on other computer systems that could tell how much memory had > been

Re: [DNG] measure memory usage

2020-08-23 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 22/08/2020 16:03, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:47:53AM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> Your query does not make sense to me. >> >> On 21/08/2020 21:23, Hendrik Boom wrote: >>> Is there a way for process to ask about its own memory usage? >&g

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 23/08/2020 14:59, Hendrik Boom wrote: > There are files and directories. > > Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity > for something which might be a file or a directory? Directories are just files that contain file metadata information in a format specific to the filesystem

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