> want to do again. This ungraceful exit needs to be fixed.
Easy to sidestep on a reasonably modern motherboard: configure BIOS to boot
first from HD, and when needed F8 at bot time to choose alternate booting
source like CD/DVD or USB.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Poets have been mysteriousl
to prove the talibans of systemd that resistance is not futile...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
War does not determine who is right - only who is left
-- Lord Bertrand Russell
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rum...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The wisdom of the wise,
and the experience of ages,
may be preserved by quotation.
-- Benjamin Disraeli
-- htt
ux will be
compelled to adopt systemd, without any possibility of staying out.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Nothing is always absolutely so.
-- Theodore Sturgeon
-- http://www
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:22:58 -0300
hellekin wrote:
> Let me help you. After all, I'm a free software talib. (see my twitter)
I stand reproved, and thank you for enlightening me.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
We are all born for love. It is the
prin
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:30:29 -0500
Gravis wrote:
> i'm actually getting a couple of Pi 2 boards to use as thin clients.
> be assured, ARMv7 packages will be made.
Will Rasvuan be backward compatible with the Raspberry A ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Somewhere, just o
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:53:01 -0800
"Usspookes Lovesystemd" wrote:
> FUCK YOU
Qu'en termes gracieux ces choses là sont dites...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Animals can be driven crazy by putting too many in too small a pen.
Homo sapiens is the only animal that voluntarily do
something, and
integrate the non-systemd in a later release...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
If peace cannot be maintained with honour, it is no longer peace.
-- Lord John Russell
-- h
re knowledge-base on the web
>(potentially) available for users so they can troubleshoot problems outside of
>network connectivity, even if they haven't a clue what an ESSID is.
It should be easy to ship Devuan with a Wicd icon on the desktop...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:33:01 +0700
Ста Деюс wrote:
> > > FUCK YOU
> > Qu'en termes gracieux ces choses là sont dites...
> Just filter out the non-human!
Will do.
Идите с Богом
Ron.
--
Silent enim leges inter arma.
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 21:04:06 +0100
Wolfgang Pirker wrote:
> Some other XFCE users might prefer the classical
> XFCE application menu.
I do ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Women should be obscene and not absurd.
-- Grouch
Unless we are really intent on aping Debian and xBuntu, how about not using a
name at all, but only a number; maybe split in Major and Minor ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The right to be heard does not include
the right to be taken seriously
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 13:36:14 -0400
Christopher Barry wrote:
> First, does the manifesto and constitution come with?
With what ?
Your meaning is not immediately clear...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The ability to speak several languages is an admirable asset,
but to be able to hold y
riginally bought graphic
cards (Hercules IIRC) was to get some graphic display posibility, in days when
the PC could only display text in MDA mode...
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Ron.
--
The moment the slave resolves that he will no longer be a slave,
his fetters fall. He frees himself and shows t
On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 00:11:55 +0200
toto titi wrote:
> Nearly as complex as a Microsoft operating system, look at that :
> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/
Please, Sir, could we have a registry ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doi
ned
over the years to keep our boxes running suddenly become unusable, no ?
And suddenly everyone has to buy support from RH...
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Ron.
--
The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds;
and the pessimist fears
On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 10:55:12 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> But to what point? Devuan was born in, OK, I'll use your
> characterization, hate, of systemd.
No, hate of the lack of choice.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than doe
Technical list (eg: moving the format to a forum) those who only read the
Technical list will not know about the proposed change...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
A la Patria hay que quererla siempre,
no solo cuando ordena el c
n on a forum, at least please go for one of those that are
ambivalent, and can be accessed as a forum as well as distribute all postings
as emails.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish th
eezy-updates main contrib non-free
#Added by software-properties
deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main
Am I safe from a systemd infection ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
We'll cross that bridge
when we come back to it later.
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:47:18 +0200
Anto wrote:
> There are a lot more packages that depend on systemd components on
> wheezy-backports. That is why I decided to downgrade all packages to
> wheezy and removed wheezy-backports from my source.list.
Thanks, Anto.
Chee
lled by the Nazi did not happen,
and that they are all G.W.Bush-hating Democrats...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Puella Rigensis ridebat
Quam tigris in tergo vehebat;
Exsterna profecta,
roduct with systemd dependencies...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Withholding information is the essence of tyranny.
Control of the flow of information is the tool of the dictatorship.
-- Bruce C
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:25:42 -0300
hellekin wrote:
> the official Devuan network installer should not, IMO, support this case. It
> is not against users, but against manufacturers.
So you want to punish users, for the sins of manufacturers ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
I
need to
install a non-free driver/firmware/etc is that OK ?" that pops up if such
install in found needed, and we should all be in agreement.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
A poet who reads his verse in public
may have other nasty ha
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 13:59:32 +0300
Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> Soon it is going to be systemd/linux not gnu/linux
Or it is going to be systemd/linux AND gnu/linux, going their separate ways.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Only after the last river has been poisoned,
O
a-Mageia) I was completely lost the first
time I was thrown at boot-time into the recovery console, and there was no vi
available...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
If everything seems to be going well,
you have obvi
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:38:43 +0200
Franco Lanza wrote:
> traditionally UNIX has vi, this is why i'm suggesting it.
Except that Debian does not have it when a boot prob sends you to the rescue
console ;-3(
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Il est plus honteux de se défier de ses amis que d
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:00:24 +0200
Micky Del Favero wrote:
> Real men don't eat quique.
No, they (bake and) eat quiche...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Il est plus honteux de se défier de ses amis que d'en ètre trompé.
-- Duc de La
nd $ vi does not
start anything, probably in hindsight because I have /usr on a separate
partition, and vi is unavailable in such a case.
And of course at the time I did not know about nano...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Les Américains commettront toutes les conneries imaginables;
e
don't know, and that could be
> anything from improperly updated software like Bash, to SSH, to anything.
Or even getting credentials through phishing ;-3(
Cheers,
Ron.
--
...Nessun maggior dolore,
Che
e choice is to use := for assignment and == for
> equality. Forget about = altogether.
Or, as in APL, use => for assignment and = for equality (all in one line ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
And it should be the law: If you use the word `paradigm' without knowing
what the dictionary
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:20:03 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> Or, as in APL, use => for assignment
Sorry, read "use A (left arrow) 1 2 3 4" for assignment
Cheers,
Ron.
--
And it should be the law: If you use the word `paradigm' without knowing
what the dic
that would be:
(letter a) (left arrow symbol) (b + c)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Animals can be driven crazy by putting too many in too small a pen.
Homo sapiens is the only animal that voluntarily does this to himself.
If I wanted my users to use sudo, I would install them *ubuntu...
Cheers,
Ron.
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Schroedinger thought inside the box.
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On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:57:15 +0100
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> people never intentionally further a bad cause.
True, but beware that their perception of "a good cause" may be completely off
the wall.
The "final solution" in 1930's Germany comes to mind as an exampl
mailinglist and in the irc channels indicate a desire to make the
> init system just another choice.
Should the choice be offered within Devuan ?
Or should we tell people who want systemd "You have the choice of installing
Debian" ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
A team effort
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:03:00 +0100
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> The plague has come, but not in the form of a deadly bacterium, but in
> the new trend of, "sacrificing function for fashion".
Or the megalomaniac "We are Systemd of Borg, resistance is futil
se would bloat the
> > interfaces file for the sole sake of this description.
> That makes sense - provided that it's still possible to manually add entries
> which fall into that other 1%.
I hope so, since my home LAN is all fixed IP addresses. ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
To th
tion gets mounted as /dev/sda1
Cheers,
Ron.
--
There is no such thing as an ugly woman;
there are only the ones who do not know
how to make themselves attractive.
-- Chris
On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 13:47:37 -0500
Steve Litt wrote:
> Honestly, if you can run MSWord under Wine, you'll have a better word
> processor than anything Linux has to offer. They all suck.
Are you advising the use of software that is neither free(1) nor free(2) ?
Cheers,
Ron.
1 As i
e, since I'm already very familiar with debian.
Have you considered IPFire ? It is a firewall distribution, derived from IPCop,
and they have a stable 2.15 release that runs on the RaspberryPI B (NOT B+) and
an Alpha 2.17 that runs on the B+.
http://wiki.ipfire.o
ttp://wiki.ipfire.org/en/hardware/arm/rpi/one-b
> No, I wasn't aware of this. I had a brief look at the above url, and
> this seems to only support the first generation of the pi.
Which is what I posted, but also that the Alpha release 2.17 does support the B+
Cheers,
Ron.
--
in his reply.
That may be linked to your reluctance to bother with trimming the posts you
reply to.
There is no need to quote the entire original post...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Death to all fanatics.
-- http://ww
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 13:25:02 -0500
Steve Litt wrote:
> > *p = 5
> >
> > is undefined behaviour.
>
> Not in the good old days. Anyone remember DOS' infamous B800 address?
>
> But of course in 2015, my response is offtopic.
Abend 0C
dants of the top-posted reply into logical disarray.
In fact bottom posting is just a (i=1) case if interleave posting.
> I'm copying my reply to another list where this subject has been
> discussed.
Thanks for the clear exposition; let us hope you will be heard and unders
means that the citation is left only
> because the author is too lazzy to cut it.
>
> Hence top-post, should be replaced by no citation at all. And when
> citation is usefull, please use bottom-post.
In other words: TRIM YOUR POSTS? YOU LAZY BUGGERS !
Cheers,
Ron.
--
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:02:49 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> And an advantage of mutt is that it does *not* automatically open html or
> other non-plain-text files on you/
Neither does Claws-Mail, unless you have added the respective add-ons.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Sex withou
ike /mnt/usb-Generic_Flash_Disk_0FEAEC2F-0:0-part1
> and /mnt/usb-Generic_Flash_Disk_0FEAEC2F-0:0-part2?
My two-pence worth: If the partition has a label, use that and mount at
/media/label
(Why /mnt ?)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
We can complain because rose bushes have thorns,
On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 22:22:36 +0100
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Some restrictions on the unique-lable length should be put in place
> not to end up with very long combersome drive names.
USB drive are commonly vfat, which limits labels to 11 characters...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Never get i
e more geek-like than the average Debian user, and will be know
how to find and install whatever package they need which is not installed by
default.
So I would suggest we keep the default install as small as possible.
And since I dont have any holidays, Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all.
Ron.
-
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 06:59:31 -0500
Mitt Green wrote:
> And also I'd go with vim-tiny as it is really close to the original and
> without nano by default.
And make sure it is in /sbin, so it is accessible when the boot process aborts,
and /usr is not mounted ;-3(
Ch
e a piece of
excrement...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
There never was a good war or a bad peace.
-- B. Franklin
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PCManfm as default, Thunar annoyed me so much
that I removed it completely.
It may have had to do with thunar refusing to recognize mime-types.
So the solution was:
# rm /usr/bin/thunar && ln -s /usr/bin/pcmanfm /usr/bin/thunar
Cheers,
Ron.
--
I shall pass through
for a related websearch.
Simple enough to change this into:
user@devuan:~$ echo "xfce4-session" >> ~/.xinitrc
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The world really isn't any worse.
It's just that the news coverage is so much better.
On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:50:46 +0100
aitor_czr wrote:
> Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again.
In that case, could you let us know what name was finally chosen ? ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Kilroe
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 14:55:27 +
hellekin wrote:
> I'd like to suggest *netbeam*, also callable by `beammeup` or `beam [me]
> up [Scotty]`
I dont want to be beamed "up Scotty" ...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
As long as the answer is right,
it
> couldn't even see the camera. The only way I have been able to access the
> camera is through the thunar file manager at this address (which is in need
> of some translation):
Did you try gThumb ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The plura
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 11:12:26 +0200
Jaromil wrote:
> but yes, its definitely not polite nor useful to obfuscate code that
> people uses.
No need to obfuscate when you program in Iverson's APL ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
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There are three k
sis i I"
xmodmap -e "keycode 32 = o O o O oacute odiaeresis ocircumflex odiaeresis o O
ocircumflex odiaeresis o O"
xmodmap -e "keycode 39 = s S s S U00DF Oslash oslash Oslash s S oslash Oslash s
S oslash Oslash"
then those letters I need come pressing AltGr a
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:14:03 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> Another possibility which I use to get ₲, €, ß, and (Spanish) acute accented
> vowels on my French keyboard is to add the following to .bashrc:
>
> xmodmap -e "keycode 66 ="
> xmodmap -e "keycode
conf.d/40nosuggestrecommends
Apt::Install-Suggests false;
Apt::Install-Recommends false;
Cheers,
Ron.
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They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safet
nce had umpteen million lines of Cobol
in daily use, that needed maintaining and upgrading.
The real fun came in the run up to Y2K, when it was discovered some programs
still in use, for which we only had the compiled executables, nobody could find
the sources... ;-3(
Cheers,
Ron.
--
gt; The workaround given that time was to make a image of the whole device, make
> that image immutable, and mount the partions of that image.
Would mounting as ext2 (non journaling) help in that case ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Everyone talks about
On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:59:29 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Have things changed?
ISTR that they changed between Android 4 and Android 5; my 4 tablet mounted
directly, while for my daughter's 5 phone I had to install some packages.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
When men are pu
ternet.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Caelum, non animum mutant
qui trans mare currunt.
-- Horace
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paragu
g to go and
hunt firmwares under the excuse that they are not open source, open-source
talibans are doing exactly what they condemn in the systemd talibans: both take
away from the user his liberty of choice.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
L'homme ne peut compter que sur lui-même.
try yes. Different strokes. You'll never get
> nonfree software, and I'll have maximal chance of getting an
> installation running.
Ready to bet the open-source talibans will find all kinds of excuses not to do
this.
They clam to be for freedom of choice, but some are as bad as the
ime.
Introduced to make research economically viable.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Der Gedanke an den Selbstmord ist ein starkes Trostmittel:
Mit ihm kommt man gut über manche böse Nacht hinweg.
-- Friedrich Niets
t;
> 8) Verify lookup of devuan.org
> a) If not, run some intelligent diagnostic software
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Any man who hates dogs and babies can't be all bad.
-- Leo Rosten, on W.C. Fields
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 10:04:07 +0100
Jochen Fahrner wrote:
> The next step after "no systemd" should be "no gnome".
Move from Gtk to Qt ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
You're only young once,
but
I restart it offers to reestablish all ite tabs it had
> before, and after that procedure it's usable again. Memory leak
> perhaps?
I found that at times, when some sites like Facebook are opened in a tab,
Firefox sometimes uses up 100% of cpu as reported by htop...
Cheers,
Ron.
-
windings are plugged: This technology is called
> socket activation. The transmission drives the chain, which drives the
> front wheel.
A chain-driven front-wheel-drive noddy bike ? The mind boggles...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Nous avons tous assez de force
olored "TOR" icon on your iPhone
> is that the Jackboots can easily see it and know you're using it. But if
> *EVERYONE* has it on their phone, it's no longer nearly as useful for
> identifying people of interest.
Is it that difficult to change
.
Have you considered rolling your own add-blocking with a list of unwanted sites
in /etc/hosts ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Laugh and the world laughs with you,
snore and you sleep alone.
to consider defective and not use?
>
> Do I need to wipe the missing drive completely before I connect it?
> (I have another machine to do this on, using a USB-to-SATA interface).
Picked up from somewhere, and used a couple times already. Long !
Cheers,
Ron.
--
One of t
ISTR having seen a mention of this go past, I now have a Raspberry Pi, and
cannot find where to download it ;-3(
Does it still exist ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Toddlers are the stormtroopers
of the Lord of Entropy
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:21:58 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
>
> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_beta/embedded/devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta2_arm64_raspi3.img.xz
Would it run on the RP-2 ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Physics is like sex:
sure,
4 image. For the rpi2 you should use:
> devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta2_armhf_raspi2.img.xz
> which is an armhf image. Otherwise, the armel image for rpi1:
> devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta2_armel_raspi1.img.xz
> should work on all of them, but with soft FP.
Ta.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
s already: the user can either use systemd running Debian, or
not use it running Devuan.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
When a woman marries again it is because she detested her first husband.
When a man marries again, it is because he adored his f
mainstream distribution,
instead of being the domain of us geeks.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.
-- H. L. Mencken
-- http://www.olgi
it is a unix/linux system or a
systemd system, the two being rather different in their management...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Eat drink and be merry,
for tomorrow we may diet.
hat any complex system will work most of the time in
partial-failure mode...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Tout homme bien portant peut se passer de manger
pendant deux jours - de poésie, jamais.
-- Charles Baudelaire
t, crashing the system
> is not a big deal; which matters is to not deliver a wrong result.
> Better crash than give a wrong result.
In other words, always fail safe.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The world really isn't any worse.
It's just that the news c
www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/22/devuan_1_0_0_released/
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is only by reducing people of flesh and blood to a mere idea
that one can ignore the will of the majority in the name of democracy
and institute a dictatorship in the name of freedom
a hassle
> for you...
https://creativecommons.org/
Cheers,
Ron.
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Dn
mean, this gives us 5.6 idiots born
every minute ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
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On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:06:54 -0700
Gregory Nowak wrote:
> I'm getting a "403 Forbidden" message on:
> <https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/installer-iso/>
>
> Can anyone else confirm this? Thanks.
Getting the same.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Conscience i
there when you say to delete it):
>
> $ chmod 000 ~/.local/share/Trash
>
> (If that doesn't work, get a bigger hammer and set it immutable. ;-> )
Or ln to /dev/null
Cheers,
Ron.
--
What really flatters a man
Cheers,
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If everything seems to be going well,
you have obviously overlooked something.
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:17:05 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> The only one I have an idea what it's for is sane-utils. Presumably
> access to scanners.
I believe that one is for accessing the scanner over a network.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
If I had b
On Sat, 27 May 2017 23:04:13 +0200
info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> Nice if you missed it otherwise annoying. Thunar puts deleted files
> there, at least on my system with XFCE4 it does.
One more reason to drop Thunar and use Pcmanfm ;-3)
Cheers,
is
> built to protect your choices, not to rule some of them out for political
> rather than technical causes.
The only interesting information would be: "Is it possible to install and run
Gnome without having installed systemd ?"
Cheers,
Ron.
--
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:21:17 +
rain...@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de wrote:
> 08/15 is a common german expression for "plain vanilla".
Reference to the 08/15 rifle still in use during the second world war; re-read
Hans Hellmut Kirst.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Tod
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:32:52 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> > 08/15 is a common german expression for "plain vanilla".
> Reference to the 08/15 rifle still in use during the second world war;
> re-read Hans Hellmut Kirst.
Sorry, machine gun, not
-of-war-quotes/
Cheers,
Ron.
--
An ignorant person is one who doesn't know
what you have just found out.
-- Will Rogers
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:25:20 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> fate accompli
"Fate"
is very apposite in the circumstance
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is a typically Hohenzollern idea to believe that it is a crime
for a country to defend itself after its army has b
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 18:36:40 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > > fate accompli
> > "Fate"
> > is very apposite in the circumstance
> One misspell and a person's reputation is shot forever!
> :-)
And me thinking it was purposefully done ;-3)
Cheer
ntiment in _good_ Latin is opaque to my countrymen who aren't
> Latin-proficient, which would impair the joke.)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... ;-3)
Ave atque vale,
Ron.
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-- http://ww
t why would you read a translation into Latin when you can read
one int French or English ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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News is the mother of opinion,
opinion the cause of mass-delusion,
delusion the so
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