[DNG] xorg freeze for non-root user after migration from stretch to ascii

2018-01-29 Thread Menelaos Maglis
Hi, I have followed the instructions in the following page to migrate my Debian stretch system to Devuan ascii. I have not removed libsystemd0 as I want to use the system with X (desktop). https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/migrate-to-ascii All went well, but when I startx as non-roo

Re: [DNG] xorg freeze for non-root user after migration from stretch to ascii

2018-01-29 Thread Menelaos Maglis
Menelaos Maglis writes: > I have followed the instructions in the following page to migrate my > Debian stretch system to Devuan ascii. I have not removed libsystemd0 as > I want to use the system with X (desktop). > > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/migrate-to-asc

Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

2018-02-18 Thread Menelaos Maglis
ll-Devuan/blob/master/general-information.md I will send a draft for review as soon as possible, although I am not sure there is another Greek speaking person in this mailing list. Regards, Menelaos Maglis ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] udev completely F-e'd up ?

2018-02-19 Thread Menelaos Maglis
"Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" writes: > Since upgrading from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie, I have been > having problems with USB drives, unable to mount them unless as root, > I get two entries in the > places list of Pcmanfm, one as sdi which, when clicked on, shows me > the former content of the d

Re: [DNG] udev completely F-e'd up ?

2018-02-19 Thread Menelaos Maglis
KatolaZ writes: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:28:35PM -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> More info: Plugged in another box (running a fresh install of PCLinuxOS, >> another systemd-free distro) I get df and fdisk to give me the proper size >> value. >> >> While there I reform

[DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-13 Thread Menelaos Maglis
Hi, I tried to print from a D-Bus free system to a HP DeskJet, WiFi connected, printer. CUPS is installed but complained about missing back-end. /var/log/cups/error.log: Stopping job because the scheduler could not execute the backend. File \"/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp\" not available: No such fil

Re: [DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-14 Thread Menelaos Maglis
> I use hplip and yes dbus is installed. > I run a very minimal ascii/ceres system and following the trail of things dependent on dbus - well, unless somebody knows better it looks like we are stuck with it. I realize that unfortunately one cannot even print without hplip/dbus these days... > A

Re: [DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-14 Thread Menelaos Maglis
> > "Cannot even print"? You make it sound as if printing were a simple task. > Printing /is/ a relatively simple task: You create a bitmap from your > document (or four im case of color printing) and send it to the printer. Many > printers (like my Oki B430dn) even accept ftp upload of correctl

Re: [DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-14 Thread Menelaos Maglis
> Can't ask users about such tradeoffs, they will be annoyed and won't be able to answer. These days you can ask the printer via d-bus. The printer knows more about itself than its users know about it. D-Bus is used for communication between processes. So the configuration and operation of a prin

Re: [DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-14 Thread Menelaos Maglis
> It's $%@#$!@#$!@# annoying when people come afterwards and explain how simple a task is, and clearly have no idea about the complexities and problems. > Maybe d-bus is a poor fit for hplip. I don't know and I suspect you don't either. We do. Although the word "simple" is not the main point, I s

Re: [DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-16 Thread Menelaos Maglis
> By the way, when will anyone point out that  printer-driver-hpcups > might be enough for printing to non-ps HP printers and it doesn't need > d-bus? Being the original poster, I can confirm that CUPS+printer-driver-hpcups worked for the printer in hand via JetDirect, without d-bus. I was tempte