efault. No problem.
-- hendrik
>
>
>
> 2015-07-15 18:56 GMT+02:00 Hendrik Boom :
>
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:29:26AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Franco Lanza"
> > > > On Wed, Jul
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:44:23PM +0200, Martial Bornet wrote:
> Unless a distribution offers a choice for the default editor, it will be
> impossible to satisfy everyone.
> I don't despise nano nor emacs, I simply don't use them, and I'm sure I'll
> never will. So nano or emacs would be very bad
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 09:44:21AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Hendrik Boom"
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 09:04:03PM +0200, Micky Del Favero wrote:
> >> I vote to put vi as default editor in devuan because vi is the default
&g
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 09:41:08AM -0700, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> I'd like to respond to this, even though I think 'no change' is the best
> policy at the moment.
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:41:18AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > Le 15/07/2015 18:02, Klaus Ethgen a écrit :
> > >Even though mc is s
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 07:41:52PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
>
> Am Do den 16. Jul 2015 um 17:04 schrieb John Crisp:
> > Nice HowTos thank you.
>
> So, and to make the stuff complete, please a (easy) way to leave emacs
> (without breaking my fi
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 03:00:35PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> Guys, if you don't mind my saying so, I think that change to the sake of
> change is really not very useful.
>
> More importantly, Devuan needs to keep vi installed in any case, in
> order to conform to the POSIX standard. I'm tired
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 08:34:08PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> Well, this possibly was the only missing one:
>
> 0) You usually prefer to have emacs already running somewhere, but if
> you don't then you can open "file.txt" using:
>
> emacs file.txt
>
> 1) to move around you can use arrow keys + P
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 02:40:31PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 16/07/2015 20:41, Klaus Ethgen a écrit :
> >I always get stessed if emacs get started on a new computer where I did
> >not check the editor settings.
>
> Did it actually happen to you or did you have a nightmare? Did
> you exper
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 09:27:05AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 09:19:59 +0100
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 07:22:49PM -0700, James Powell wrote:
> > > Yes, but I mean alts like s6, Runit, etc. In the past these were
> > > left to the users to make for themselv
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:36:46AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Is "ascii" the set of 7 bit characters where space is 32 and tilde is
> 127, or does it have a different context in this email?
It's an asteroid. So is Ceres, and, surprise, Jessie.
-- hendrik
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:06:59PM -0700, James Powell wrote:
> It's not just that, but why are there so many broken down packages? -bin,
> -dev, -meta, -src, -lib, -doc, etc. my God do we need this many? Many
> distributions use just one all inclusive package to avoid problems unless its
> a t
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 11:37:26AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:16:06PM -0700, James Powell wrote:
> > I never said it was set in stone.
> >
> > All I suggested was if you install a package like SDL, then you install all
> > of SDL, not just part of it. This reduces overhead
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 05:36:56PM +0630, Ста Деюс wrote:
> Good time of the day, Didier.
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:20:27 +0200 you wrote:
>
> > With nano, how to save and exit, etc is writen permanently on the 2
> > bottom lines. If you were to explain how to navigate, insert or erase
> >
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 04:37:55PM +0630, Ста Деюс wrote:
> Good time of the day, Hendrik.
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 09:48:33 -0400 you wrote:
>
> > My entire problem with mc is that it's too easy to type mc when I
> > mean mv and instead of moving my file it gets me into a strange mode
> > I ha
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 09:09:31PM +0630, Ста Деюс wrote:
> Good time of the day, Hendrik.
>
>
> On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:14:06 -0400 you wrote:
>
> > If you know which key it is.
> >
> > > -- One key for
> > > cope/move the text! One key for: point the place of insertion,
> > > saving file ! --
I do not understand this entire thread.
I have not a clue what a MirDevuan "WTF" would be.
What does the Mir" prefi contribute the the eaning?
What does "WTF" mean in thei context. I mean what the fuck?
-- hendrik
___
Dng mailing list
Dng@lists.dyne.or
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 01:53:15AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > I do not understand this entire thread.
> >
> > I have not a clue what a MirDevuan "WTF" would be.
> > What does the Mir" prefi contribute the
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:12:01AM +0200, Teodoro Santoni wrote:
>
> ... but, yeah, it's outside the scope of Devuan. D-Bus just sucks and is
> documented on a random basis, when you compare it to the rest of GNU/Fedora
> it's... like GTK: it sucks, there are alternatives but it's a PITA to port
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 09:30:04PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 08:22:55 PM Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:12:01AM +0200, Teodoro Santoni wrote:
> > > ... but, yeah, it's outside the scope of Devuan. D-Bus just sucks and i
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:03:08PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> Hey T.J., you seem to contradict yourself when saying "C and C++
> are strongly typed" and "Type checking is never C's job." :-)
>
> Actually, yes, C and C++ are typed, but weakly. They silently do
> type conversion in prett
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 06:58:04PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> Yes, I figured it was something along those lines. As I mentioned
> in a previous email, my experience with GTK has been mercifully
> small. I can certainly understand why you would get annoyed. I'm
> something of a C aficionado
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 09:14:57PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> Setting that aside for a moment, X11 is a network protocol, not a
> display system, and seldom used in today's world.
I'm very aware that X11 is a network protocol. I often use it that
way. Invaluable!
-- hendrik
__
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:47:13PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
>
> On 7/25/2015 9:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> >I've heard that wayland will require systemd.
> >
> >SteveT
> >
> >
> I have to apologize, Steve.
>
> When I refer to "Wayland" I am referring to the Linux project, which
> as far a
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:36:47PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
>
> On 7/25/2015 5:26 AM, Roger Leigh wrote:
...
...
> This really
> violates the standing principle of "paying for only what you use."
I encountered this principle long ago when I got involved in the
design and implementation of A
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 04:52:10PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 25/07/2015 20:55, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> >...
> >>>This really
> >>>violates the standing principle of "paying for only what you use."
> >I encountered this principle
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:58:55PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
...
> The affectation operator is := instead of = in C, and the
> comparison are = (instead of ==) and /= instead of != . The bad
> choice of operators, together with other tricks is probably the main
> source of bugs in C programs.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 09:29:09AM +0100, kpb wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 00:09:45 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Cheer up Svante. This isn't for your corporation's web servers, it's
> > for the guy with a desktop, the system's only user, a guy who already
> > has root but just doesn't want to
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 01:08:26PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 03:17:11PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Of course I have to guess whether the device has
> > been plugged in as /dev/sdb, or /dev/sde, or whatever. In case of
> > (frequent) doub
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:08:56AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 28/07/2015 21:17, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> >Once, an icon for the device would appear on my screen that I
> >could click to mount.
> This feature is working very well with xfce4 on Debian Wheezy.
> If the
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:28:30AM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Didier Kryn writes:
> > Le 29/07/2015 16:35, a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no a écrit :
> >> Every last problem of sudo is taken seriously? Did you know that if
> >> someone has limited access, e.g. the right to install standard
> >> packa
On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 08:49:55AM -0700, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:39:22PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > Isaac, your comment suggests me two questions:
> > One: is it really possible to mount a Fuse filesystem with 'mount' ? I
> > thought it could only be done with '
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 07:12:05AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Someone mentioned that we have too many daemons and this shouldn't be
> one. If you want the thing to be *auto*mount instead of just "mount
> when I tell you to, or "search for possible mounts and tell me about
> them", it has to be a ba
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I
> happen to disgree with what he wrote on the topic). The simplest way
> to implement a block memory copy in C is
Correction:
>
> static void
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 09:41:32AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> >
> > [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I
> > happen to disgree with what he wrote on the
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 03:32:30PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Hendrik Boom writes:
> > On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I
> >> h
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:23:30PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:00:27 +0200
> Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> > Devuan is not opposed to kdbus, nor even to systemd. People here
> > want the freedom to not use systemd; they don't deny others the right
> > to use it, nor to use kd
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 06:58:35PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> I completely get your point. I'd actually go one step further and state
> that 'meritocracy' is obviously bullshit because people are neither
> omniscient nor do they make objective desicisions. Further, large-scale
> attempts at
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 10:47:34AM +0200, tilt! wrote:
>
> As for problem #1, I personally feel that the lack of user
> interface (tools and documentation) of the ALSA built-in
> solutions has been and is the primary motivator for developments
> like Pulseaudio.
The paradigm here is:
Package A
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 02:38:48AM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> You could always lift scripts from Wheezy and use them as a template.
Or even from jessie, now that Debian jessie in stable.
-- hendrik
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Miles Fidelman
> wrote:
>
> > T.J. Duchene wrote:
> >
> >
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 07:42:04AM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 22:44:41 +1200
> Daniel Reurich wrote:
>
> > Devuan may have been born out of anger at the decisions of the TC, but
> > already it is shaping up to be more then just Debian with sysvinit.
> > Vdev is certainly
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 08:16:51PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 10:13:45AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
> > Since
> > I'm a fan of the Raspberry Pi, I definitely want to see another distro
> > available for it that is systemd-free. There is also FreeBSD for the Pi,
> > thoug
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 09:48:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:19:00 -0700
> Go Linux wrote:
>
>
> > It's unlikely I would ever install Plop but I found your DIY tut
> > quite informative. Helped to demystify some things about chroot etc.
> > which I now understand much be
I'm planning to install devuan aloha2 to see how it works out.
I have a laptop with a 32-bit Intel processor.
I'm going to sacrifice Windows; I no longer need it. If Devuan
doesn't take care of my essentials, I may later install Debian
temporarily in a dual boot scenario.
(1) I plan to dd an is
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:54:24PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:36:26PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > (1) I plan to dd an iso to a usb stick and boot from there.
> > Does the iso need to be modified in some way to boot from a USB stick?
> >
I installed from alpha2, and it mostly worked.
Devuan boots up properly, and runs. I'm currently ssh-ed in to another
machine where I have my email, accessible via mutt.
There were a few glitches:
(1) it still offered to install the system on my installer USB stick.
I wasn't stupid enough to fa
I tried plugging a external hard drive into my newly installed Devuan
system, and immediately ran into a problem: It seems the volume group
name used on that drive is the same as the one on my devuan system.
Not that surprising; thee external drive contains the Debian system I'm
migrating awa
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 05:19:25PM -0700, James Powell wrote:
> Slackware is maintained by 3 core people with extra help as needed. The rest
> of the packages are pushed by the community at large contributing. Devuan
> doesn't have to maintain every package possible. That's ludicrous to think so.
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:28:39PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> On 15/08/15 12:05, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >I installed from alpha2, and it mostly worked.
> >Devuan boots up properly, and runs. I'm currently ssh-ed in to another
> >machine where I have my email, access
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:41:06PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> On 15/08/15 12:24, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >I tried plugging a external hard drive into my newly installed Devuan
> >system, and immediately ran into a problem: It seems the volume group
> >name used on that dri
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 01:22:42PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> On 15/08/15 13:13, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:41:06PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> >>On 15/08/15 12:24, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>>I tried plugging a external hard drive
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:11:46PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 01:22:42PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> > On 15/08/15 13:13, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > >On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:41:06PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> > >>On 15/08/15 12:24
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 02:15:35PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> On 15/08/15 14:11, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >Easy enough to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
> >Or do I really have to edit other files that this is made from? I
> >remember there was some complication there with Debia
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:21:33PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> If you just need to transfer the data to the new installation, attach the
> external drive to a different machine and rsync it. Boot with live media
> if you have the same problem on the other machine.
>
> fsr
I thonk I might have been
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 03:21:47PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> On 15/08/15 14:47, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> >>
> >>Don't forget to do `update-initramfs -u -k all` and `update-grub` to
> >>rebuild the
> >
> >Ouch. update-initramfs crapped out:
>
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 05:15:44PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> On 15/08/15 16:54, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 03:21:47PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> >>On 15/08/15 14:47, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>Don
After a clean install of devuan from the alpha2 iso using a USB stick
my system is running properly, with xfce and an unknown display manager.
The only packages I asked to install were ones from dselect in the installer,
and very few of those. Beyond the defaults, I asked
for xfce.
There does ap
I accidentally checked for systemd using aptitude on the wrong system.
There are actually a lot more systemd packages.
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 08:58:46AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> After a clean install of devuan from the alpha2 iso using a USB stick
> my system is running properly, wit
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 02:20:44PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> Having a specifically defined base makes it easier for third parties to
> ensure that software is going to work without a hitch. It's much more
> attractive from a testing standpoint than the usual Linux hodge-podge. I
> think it i
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 06:05:15AM -0700, James Powell wrote:
> Thank you.
>
> If people want Devuan with systemd or anything close to it, use Debian aka
> CoreOS w/ dpkg.
>
> People came to Devuan to have choice, mainly a choice to avoid systemd at all
> costs.
That's certainly the choice tha
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 01:50:07PM -0400, DStoicheff wrote:
>
> 1) I continue to see online posts about the value of open source
> software, cooperation, the good of mankind, blah, blah, without
> having to pay Apple or Microsoft, both of which have a broken, and
> laughably out-of-date, out-of-
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:42:29AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> dear Karl,
>
> thanks for your analysis
>
> we haven't yet worked on the mirroring mechanism, but we will
>
> once done, there will be a script and it will be easy
> I guess it will be a sort of amprolla satellite process
> so that the m
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 06:46:36PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
> On 19/08/2015 15:29, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> >This is the completed C backend with all functions tested to work. Any
> >suggestions as to modifications are welcome.
>
> OK, someone has to be the bad guy. Let it be me.
>
> First,
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 06:14:38PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
...
> As to studying other languages, here, you are NOT talking to a youth
> in his twenties or his teens, but to a 48 year old. Learning a new
> language is a lengthy process and the ones I know are far more than
> enough for what I d
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 07:08:25PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Steve Litt writes:
> > On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:25:45 +0100
> > Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> >> Edward Bartolo writes:
> >> > I am not assuming anything and understand the risks of buffer
> >> > overflows. The first step I am taking is
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 01:50:22PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:25:45 +0100
> Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> > Edward Bartolo writes:
> > > I am not assuming anything and understand the risks of buffer
> > > overflows. The first step I am taking is to make the code function.
> >
strcpy(ifilename, path_to_interfaces_files);
> >>
> >>strcat(ifilename, "/");
> >>strcat(ifilename, essid);
> >
> > Boom. You're dead.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but I can get sensitive when someone tell me I'm dead.
--
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 12:51:55PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> That's going to work with this particular problem which you incorrectly
> (the original path wasn't a macro) reduced to appending a string of
> unknown length to a constant string. Taking this into account, a
> solution without s
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 04:10:19PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Hendrik Boom writes:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 12:51:55PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> >>
> >> That's going to work with this particular problem which you incorrectly
> >> (
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 05:20:15PM +0200, Timo Buhrmester wrote:
> > > from my legitimate IP
> > 0.0 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address
> >[82.216.6.62 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net]
> Note the 'dynamic'.
>
> I wouldn't quite take this
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 02:01:30PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi Edward,
>
> In my opinion Pascal is a little obsolete language, but it is a OOP
> very similar to C++.
> The work is done, chapeau!
Agree, except for the part of being siilar to C++.
The language that does fit this description, and w
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 10:17:05PM +0200, Anto wrote:
>
> On 23/08/15 20:34, Adam Borowski wrote:
> >Today on #debconf:
> >
> >20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release
> >20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing
> >systemd by default
> >20:11 < paul
Is libpam-systemd needed by devuan? Because that's the only package
I have installed that would be broken by removing systemd itself.
Since it appears to have something do do with authentication, I'm
concerned that I may not be able to log in after I've removed it to undo
damage.
-- hendrik
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:26:16AM +0200, adamdm wrote:
> I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled...
> Am I missing something?
When I first installed devuan from alpha2, just a bit over a week ago,
the shutdown button was there, and worked. Actually, there was a word
at t
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 08:02:35AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Mitt wrote:
>
> > I noticed that my messages are not pointed to those who they are sent to.
> > See image
> > https://imgur.com/J4UaT7D
>
> Are you referring to the fact that it's not shown in "it's place in the tree"
> like the r
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:32:11AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:26:16AM +0200, adamdm wrote:
> > I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled...
> > Am I missing something?
>
> When I first installed devuan from alpha2,
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 03:29:31AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> Adding or removing an user in the system affects also to other files
> like /etc/group, /etc/gshadow, /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid.
Forgot about those. Thanks.
-- hendrik
>
> Aitor.
>
> El 24/08/15 a las 1
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 01:09:27PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> "tilt!" writes:
>
> > Hi Edward,
> >
> > On 08/25/2015 12:51 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> >> [...]
> >
> > Please accept merge request #1 "cleanup of backend binaries".
>
> Two random remarks:
>
> ,
> | size_t essid_safe_strl
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:34:42PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Jaromil:
> > we haven't yet worked on the mirroring mechanism, but we will
> >
> > once done, there will be a script and it will be easy
> > I guess it will be a sort of amprolla satellite process
> > so that the mirror redirectio
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 05:14:50PM +0200, poitr pogo wrote:
...
> So let them build desktop oriented linux, and let us focus on the
> server oriented version.
I'm completely happy with devuan as a desktop system. Plaeas don't
abandon the desktop.
-- hendrik
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:31:44AM +0200, Tobias Hunger wrote:
> Hi Jaromil,
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> >>Hi Rainer, do you know that you are feeding a troll ?
> >>tobias.hun...@gmail.com appears to be a systemd developer
>
> I tend to send patches to open source proje
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:13:43AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
>
> I don't think it's so much a packaging decision by Debian, more a case of
> what the upstream devs have done. The Debian decision was (AIUI) "we don't
> have the resources to remove the crap" - not a decision to add it, just a
>
On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 08:41:17AM -0500, hal wrote:
> On September 3, 2015 7:43:01 AM CDT, Go Linux wrote:
> ::
> :: Doesn't sgfxi automate all that? Last time I had to install an
> :: nVidia driver, it worked like a charm. Not quite sure of its current
> :: status though as it's been a while
On Sat, Sep 05, 2015 at 03:39:17PM +0200, Teodoro Santoni wrote:
> Good afternoon,
>
> On Sat, Sep 05, 2015 at 01:49:14PM +0200, shraptor wrote:
> > On arch linux xf86-input-evdev is reported to have a dependency on systemd.
> >
> > I thought the dependency is on udev and that is usually reported
On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 02:11:44PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> Most packages disappeared from:
>
> deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main
> deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main
>
> There is no live-build, no kernel, no grub...
>
> Aitor.
I noticed this morning that mon
by hand could get quite tedious if there are a lot
of them. Not to mention that from now on, libbotan will be known as a
package I asked for, and not as one installed as a dependency.
-- hendrik
On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 11:25:31AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 02:11
On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 09:04:45PM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 08:30:27PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> > we can regard this situation as the sort of testing needed for our
> > server side of things, I'm confident in the future such glitches can be
> > avoided.
>
>
> Technicall
On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 11:53:33PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 09:40:12PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I think, a simple way to avoid the backend having to call external
> > programs like ifup and ifdown, is to use code belonging to these
> > programs as it
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 06:57:04PM +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> Wow, we've gone from "I don't understand c strings" to "let me explain them
> using matrices".
>
> To anyone else mortified by this thread: name any of the obviously
> preferable languages for this job and I'll try my hand at por
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 06:54:44AM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote:
> Hi all,
> after the last days issues with devuan repositories,
> i have deeply investigated what broke our amprolla merged repo.
>
> First issue: debian mirror auto geolocation
>
> Until some days ago we were using http://http.debia
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 03:42:47PM +0200, a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no wrote:
> M3 was great. Maybe the language I like best among the compiled
> ones. For example, the specification is just fifty and a half pages
> long, and it has 31-bit unsigned integers instead of 32.
I still use it.
It's still a
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 05:30:23PM +0200, tilt! wrote:
> On 09/11/2015 08:57 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> > [...]
> >To anyone else mortified by this thread: name any of the obviously
> >preferable languages for this job and I'll try my hand at porting to
> >that language. I can't guarantee I'll kn
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 04:04:14PM +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> Hi tilt!Is this a serious response? I ask because the other
> candidates-- an obscure language and a dead language-- were not.
Programming language popularity is more a matter of fashion than
technical excellence.
Modula 3 i
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 08:38:40PM +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> It depends completely on the random guy. :)
> If you were a knowledgeable advocate of Guile and saw the same risks of
> "winging it" with C strings, then there'd now be at least two devs with a
> vested interest in a port of the r
me safety could be expected to go.
>
> El 12/09/15 a las 22:38, Hendrik Boom escribió:
>
> >Modula 3 isn't dead. Moribund, maybe, but not dead. And it easily
> >beats a number of madly popular languages for systems programming.
> >Its one of the few languag
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 05:20:25PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> By automatic connections I understood netman using the available
> essids for which it knows the password to connect. This means, it does
> not attempt to connect if no essid file is found under
> /etc/network/wifi.
>
>
Examples:
A company's internal network that I should only connect to in the course
of work for that company.
A service that charges for usage that I use when there isn't a free
service available.
-- hendrik
>
> On 13/09/2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 13, 20
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 08:23:56PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi Hendrik Boom,
>
> You can achieve what you want by not using --auto-conn. This means,
> netman would not try to automatically search for an existing essid
> file matching the wifi sources available in the vi
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:54:53AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi Katolaz,
>
> I tried it but it doesn't work:
>
> aitor@gnuinos:~/netman/backend_src/src$ gcc -g -I../include
Try with the actual path to the include. With a -I option it isn't clear what
home
directory the -I is relative to.
I r
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 07:35:34PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 02:26:10PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Another 'apt-get update' still produces the 'ignoring provides line'
> > warnings.
> >
> > 'apt-get upgrade' tells me that systemd and systemd-sysv are goin
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:36:45PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 03:10:30PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > I'm wondering whether things are ready to upgrade my server to devuan
> > jessie. I'll take the usual
201 - 300 of 1609 matches
Mail list logo
