[Dng] devuan security wishlist item

2015-01-05 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Talking about security and ttys and login: I would like Devuan to have a clear documentation and good defaults for the Secure Attention Key (SAK). E.g. that any user at the console can expect to do Ctrl-Alt-SysRq-K to work. Too few people know that this even exists in Linux. Frits. ___

[Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-03 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Hi, Jude Nelson posted an enormous rdepends list, of what packages would need to be changed for Devuan Jessie,but from my own experimentation I concluded that it wasn't so bad if we are willing to give up on a few other things: - Give up on GNOME for the moment - Accept that a few key packa

[Dng] about mdev and udev

2015-02-20 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
About that error with the mdev packaging: if you purge udev, does that mean you need the old-fashioned /dev/MAKEDEV script back to create the device nodes? it's in Debian package makedev. and it says Conflicts: udev, but that doesn't mean it gets re-installed automagically after udev is purge

[Dng] idea for discussion: why 1 dbus [long e-mail]

2015-02-25 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Well, I have an idea for a discussion about "re-architecting" Linux, however it is very likely that this is just my lack of understanding speaking: I am aware that task #1 is providing Devuan Jessie (without systemd), and that is already enough work. Personally I consider task #2 to do a lit

[DNG] live-build experiment worked!

2015-10-06 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Hej, I just wanted to mention that I got an experimental Devuan jessie live-build to work with LXDE and lightdm and iceweasel. And amprolla seems to have lost the Contents-amd64.gz file so I had to make one. The only systemd components are udev and libudev1 (215-17+deb8u2) There's an annoy

[DNG] About the experimental live DVD

2015-10-08 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Hello, I would like to clarify some things about the live DVD that I made: - arch is amd64, userid user password live. It works inside virtualbox, not tested on bare iron. Do sudo bash to work as root. - It was an experiment by me to learn live-build and see how far I could get with it on De

[DNG] two miscommunications about refracta and live-build

2015-10-08 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
First, about fsmithred from refracta: I simply wasn't aware that somebody had already done this. Sorry fsmithred. I don't keep good track of the developments. Is there something like these newfangled "web sites" where I could read the latest news? And I don't mean git.devuan.org/packages-base

Re: [DNG] About the experimental live DVD

2015-10-12 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Hi Aitor, You can skip the user's password: Add to 'live-config' a file '/etc/config/config.conf' containig, for example: LIVE_HOSTNAME=devuan LIVE_USERNAME=user LIVE_USER_FULLNAME="User" LIVE_USER_DEFAULT_GROUPS="cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse bluetooth netde

[DNG] bootstrap-base error Re: About the experimental live DVD

2015-10-14 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Hi, a short update: Now I added the debian-installer component to my experimental live DVD, and I can try to do an installation, but it screws up in "installing the base system" INFO: Menu item 'bootstrap-base' selected base-installer: error: exiting on error base-installer/debootstrap-faile

[DNG] devuan base-installer bootstrap-base pkgdetails GETDEPS with exclude?

2015-10-19 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Yes, the e-mail header may be a bit cryptic. apologies. Has anyone done a "debootstrap exclude option" on the pkgdetails.c program in base-installer yet? Please note, that this is a request for information, not an accusation :-) Package: init Pre-Depends: systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core | ups

[DNG] (forwarded to mailinglist) Fwd: packaging Re: netman packages

2015-11-15 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Original Message Subject: packaging Re: [DNG] netman packages Date: 2015-11-15 19:05 From: Godefridus Daalmans To: Hendrik Boom Cc: d...@dyne.org, Aitor On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:45:23PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: Sorry, Hendrik, i forgot to checkout the gbp-master brach

Re: [DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system

2015-11-21 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Thanks for documenting that Aitor! It's all a lot of work. Let's shout a heartfelt "thank you" to Daniel Baumann and his live-build companions who automated this difficult set of tasks considerably :-) A small tip I learned only recently, for experimenting with chroot jails: You wouldn't wan

Re: [DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system

2015-11-21 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Which repo did you use to make the dvd? Cheers Ozi On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Godefridus Daalmans wrote: Thanks for documenting that Aitor! It's all a lot of work. Let's shout a heartfelt "thank you" to Daniel Baumann and his live-build companions who automated th

Re: [DNG] lightweight graphics toolkits (was Experiencing with GtkBuilder)

2015-11-28 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
If your programs depend on CDE, you could try to compile them against lesstif2, that's an LGPL implementation of Motif, on top of just the X libraries. I don't know if it's binary-compatible or if it's actively maintained. Frits And why actually there is no package for it in repository? While

[DNG] Congrats

2016-04-29 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Congratulations, everyone!! Well done for persevering. Frits ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-02 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Hi, I just noticed that SubSentient has started a discussion on SoylentNews about init systems: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/06/01/0347232 Ask SN: Help Write it — What do you Want in an Init System? I thought you might find it interesting. Greetings, Frits _