Re: [Dng] Release roadmap

2015-01-04 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 1/4/15, Franco Lanza wrote: Subject: [Dng] Release roadmap To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, January 4, 2015, 12:03 AM As many already known, i will be unreliable next week, and this will cause a little bit of slow down in the package repository population. Sorry for that, but my

Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-08 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 1/8/15, Dragan FOSS wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 4:28 PM > This is TRIOS. > Powerfull advanced desktop operating system, with some unique server > capabilities right out of box, > yet very easy to use. > De

Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-12 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 1/8/15, Dragan FOSS wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 4:28 PM > This is TRIOS. Well, I finally burned a cd and gave the live disk a spin - it booted pretty quickly.

Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-12 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 1/12/15, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, January 12, 2015, 1:56 PM On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 11:28:38 -0800 Go Linux wrote: >> The shutdown sequence did not stop to allow for removal of the disk. >>

Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-12 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 1/12/15, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, January 12, 2015, 1:56 PM >> Easy to sidestep on a reasonably modern motherboard: configure BIOS to boot >> first from HD, and when needed F8 >>at bot time to choose alterna

[Dng] Wiki spam

2015-01-17 Thread Go Linux
Could one of the venerable VUAs please do something to stop the spam being posted to the wiki. It's starting to get out of control and no one seems to be minding the store. It needs to be PREVENTED not just deleted (which Gravis has been doing). Thanks, golinux __

Re: [Dng] Upgrade paths

2015-01-23 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 1/22/15, Franco Lanza wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Upgrade paths To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, January 22, 2015, 11:43 PM >> Any other paths we should think about? > Only one another path should be officially supported: the inst

[Dng] The countdown

2015-01-24 Thread Go Linux
I know a few folks who are expecting Devuan to fail miserably. As the deadline approaches, I'm hoping that you guys deliver the BEST Debian Jessie EVAH and prove these nay sayers wrong. Last progress update was about a month ago IIRC. A current update might go a long way towards silencing the

Re: [Dng] Boot loader?

2015-01-31 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 1/31/15, Neo Futur wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Boot loader? To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Saturday, January 31, 2015, 11:59 AM * trinity ( great fork of kde3 ) as a default DE OMG . . . N. It's bloatware second only to Gnome.

Re: [Dng] Boot loader?

2015-01-31 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 1/31/15, Isaac Dunham wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Boot loader? To: "Neo Futur" Cc: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Saturday, January 31, 2015, 1:18 PM On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:59:51PM -0500, Neo Futur wrote: > > * trinity ( great fork

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-02 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 2/2/15, Jude Nelson wrote: Subject: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Monday, February 2, 2015, 7:40 PM Hey everyone, Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on some part of systemd? I'd like to get the ball rolling o

Re: [Dng] Please!! revive Bastille hardening tool for Devuan

2015-02-11 Thread Go Linux
On Wed, 2/11/15, Gravis wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Please!! revive Bastille hardening tool for Devuan To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2015, 7:55 AM > wow.  congrats on being highly offensive on your very first post. > > anyway, i looked at Bastille > and it's a hig

Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-15 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 2/15/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, February 15, 2015, 9:20 AM On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 22:27:04 +0100 Nikolaus Klepp wrote: [cut] Hi Nik, You paint a tempting

Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0

2015-02-17 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 2/17/15, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: Subject: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0 To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 11:49 AM > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836 > !!  did anyone have a clue that this has alr

[Dng] KDE systemd lock-in

2015-02-20 Thread Go Linux
We all knew this was coming . . . KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] systemd free badge

2015-02-21 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 2/21/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] systemd free badge To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, February 21, 2015, 8:29 AM On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:08:04 +0100 Jaromil wrote: >> hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if anyone likes to >> get started at it: how ab

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-21 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 2/21/15, David Harrison wrote: Subject: [Dng] Init Freedom badges To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, February 21, 2015, 6:14 AM On 21/02/2015 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if anyone likes to get > started at it: >> h

Re: [Dng] logo again.

2015-02-24 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 2/24/15, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: [Dng] logo again. To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 6:28 AM On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:04:43AM +, Noel Torres wrote: > > Spiral galaxies always have at least TWO arms. Which is why I thought a two-armed spiral,

Re: [Dng] logo again.

2015-02-24 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 2/24/15, Go Linux wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] logo again. To: dng@lists.dyne.org, "Hendrik Boom" Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 10:33 AM On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:04:43AM +, Noel Torres wrote: > > Spiral galaxies always have at least TWO arms. Which is why

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-24 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 2/23/15, Noel Torres wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, February 23, 2015, 3:28 PM [cut] > > I'd prefer any logo that does not use english initials or play on words. > > er Envite ___

[Dng] Combatting revisionist history

2015-02-25 Thread Go Linux
This excellent analysis of the systemd debacle was just posted over on FDN. Should be required reading IMO. Enjoy! http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=120652&p=570371 golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne

Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-25 Thread Go Linux
On Wed, 2/25/15, Linuxito wrote: > Subject: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2015, 10:10 AM > > Hi people, > > As you may know, we have been collecting logo proposals for > Devuan in the Without Systemd Wiki: > > http://without-systemd.org/wiki/i

Re: [Dng] simple backgrounds

2015-02-26 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 2/26/15, Linuxito wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] simple backgrounds To: "Anto" Cc: "dng" Date: Thursday, February 26, 2015, 1:03 PM > I agree with you. We need identity, and more important, we need a brand. > > Although I know nothing about marketing, I think a logo it's the most > i

Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XI

2015-02-27 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 2/27/15, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XI To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, February 27, 2015, 2:12 PM On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 07:22:26PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote: > > Could you please cease «kickass» here -- for people read your news > > also, but su

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-27 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 2/27/15, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, February 27, 2015, 3:27 PM > > And why penguins? I think in terms of non-conformity, the platypus > makes much more sense. > > W

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-27 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 2/27/15, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, February 27, 2015, 4:11 PM On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Go Linux wrote: >> And why penguins? I think in terms of non-conformity, the platypus >> makes muc

[Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-02-27 Thread Go Linux
I have been aware of the pending assimilation of systemd into the kernel since Linus dramatically rejected Kay Sievers' code last spring. Recently there has been renewed chatter about the impending doom. But I'm not quite clear how that would affect devuan. Hoping you can help me get a grip on

Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-02-28 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 2/28/15, Go Linux wrote: Subject: What if systemd infects the kernel? To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, February 28, 2015, 1:05 AM I have been aware of the pending assimilation of systemd into the kernel since Linus dramatically rejected Kay Sievers' code last s

[Dng] pre-alpha live iso

2015-02-28 Thread Go Linux
fsmithred over at Refracta created a live iso of the valentine's pre-alpha with refractasnapshot. He said I could post a link here for those who want to check it out but don't want to install. http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/other/ It booted just fine but as previously noted there ar

Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-02-28 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 2/28/15, Gravis wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel? To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Saturday, February 28, 2015, 10:03 PM >> Why not one response? > > probably because gmail (among other services) is automatically marking > your emails as spam since they ar

Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-03-01 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 3/1/15, Jude Nelson wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel? To: "Gravis" Cc: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 12:01 AM >> I have been aware of the pending assimilation of systemd into the kernel >> since Linus dramatically rejected Kay >> S

Re: [Dng] us as tech support

2015-03-01 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 3/1/15, Anto wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] us as tech support To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 11:06 AM On 01/03/15 17:38, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 01:09:21AM -0500, Gravis wrote: >>> now we're tech support? >> To an extent, yes. >> >> We need to

Re: [Dng] No way to use a prepartioned disk?

2015-03-01 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 3/1/15, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: [Dng] No way to use a prepartioned disk? To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 11:44 AM > I tried using the valentine installer on a disk that already had three > primary partitions and a lot of empty space. > > I could not get manu

Re: [Dng] [OT] Debian problems with Jesse - was simple backgrounds

2015-03-02 Thread Go Linux
Are you guys ever gonna run out of gas? This thread has pretty much taken over my Inbox . . . ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XI

2015-03-03 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 3/3/15, Ста Деюс wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XI To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2015, 3:07 PM В Fri, 27 Feb 2015 18:05:49 -0300 hellekin пишет: >> impressive", or "very effective". As a non-native English speaker as >> well, it didn't occur to me th

Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XIV - Where no toy has gone before

2015-03-03 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 3/3/15, Franco Lanza wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XIV - Where no toy has gone before To: "dng" Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2015, 8:41 PM > > Thanks hellekin and all DWN contributors, > with this editorial you made my day, i love it :D > > As we have such naming and as "w

Re: [Dng] Finding systemd

2015-03-09 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 3/9/15, etech3 wrote: Subject: [Dng] Finding systemd To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, March 9, 2015, 6:45 PM > Hi everybody > > In a follow up to preparing for Devuan, I started going back to see if I > could find systemd. Yes I know, I know. But what I did was start by > instal

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 3/10/15, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] greets To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2015, 5:44 PM On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:04:26PM +0100, Peter Maloney wrote: >> especially hope it doesn't say anything like "anyone can join en masse >> and override all the decis

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 3/10/15, hellekin wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] greets To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2015, 11:32 AM On 03/10/15 11:57, Steve Litt wrote: > > LOL > *** Can you expand the acronym? I'm not sure I find anything funny here. == hk

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

2015-03-20 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 3/20/15, Didier Kryn wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied? To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2015, 10:48 AM Le 19/03/2015 21:15, Steve Litt a écrit : > If anyone want's Gnome for Devuan, let that be in a "contaminated" > repository (a

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

2015-03-21 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 3/21/15, Miles Fidelman wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied? To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, March 21, 2015, 11:25 AM Didier Kryn wrote: > We all agree that Devuan was born to be systemd-free and this > looks like a sustainable goal to

Re: [Dng] rumors on RMS about systemd at libreplanet

2015-03-23 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 3/23/15, KatolaZ wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] rumors on RMS about systemd at libreplanet To: "Jaromil" Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, March 23, 2015, 2:22 PM On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 07:44:30PM +0100, Jaromil wrote: [cut] > > I think this is unacceptable under so many ways... s

Re: [Dng] Freedom Logo

2015-03-31 Thread Go Linux
This logo bike-shedding is getting rather out of control. Yes, it's a very nice looking graphic. But as the OP noted, it is not in sync with the release naming scheme of minor planets. So IMO this whole discussion may be a nice distraction but pointless flooding of the email list. Now if it

[Dng] [OT]I have been liberated!

2015-04-03 Thread Go Linux
I just unsubscribed from debian-user! It was time to say good-bye and move on . . . ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

2015-04-03 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 4/3/15, Anto wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency? To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, April 3, 2015, 11:28 AM On 03/04/15 01:53, hellekin wrote: > Oh, did I just announce the Devuan forum? You did! And I just registered mysel

Re: [Dng] Call for factoids on the Debian fork

2015-04-04 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 4/4/15, Steve Litt wrote: [big cut] > In September 2014, Joel Roth had created a mailing list > called "Modular-Debian", whose archives are at > https://www.freelists.org/archive/modular-debian. > [cut] > > > If anyone knows where to find the Modular-Debian archives, please pos

Re: [Dng] dev-list

2015-04-07 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 4/7/15, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] dev-list To: "dng" Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2015, 2:19 PM On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Martijn Dekkers wrote: > I know this has come up a few times in the past, but I would really like to > see a dev specific list, with some strict

Re: [Dng] fontawesome icon fix!

2015-04-10 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 4/10/15, Anto wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] fontawesome icon fix! To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Friday, April 10, 2015, 3:14 PM On 10/04/15 21:36, Go Linux wrote: >> In firefox/iceweasel preferences, untick the 'Allow

[Dng] The new forum

2015-04-08 Thread Go Linux
This is one of my favorite quotes from dasein over on the debian forums: "Ubuntu forums try to be like a coffee shop in Seattle. Debian forums strive for the charm and ambience of a skinhead bar in Bacau." I would rate the ambiance of the new devuan forum to the left of the Seattle coffee house

Re: [Dng] fontawesome icon fix!

2015-04-11 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 4/11/15, David Harrison wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] fontawesome icon fix! To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, April 11, 2015, 7:16 AM On 11/04/2015 13:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > Because I never want to see a serif font EVER and because I prefer to > see the same font

Re: [Dng] fontawesome icon fix!

2015-04-11 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 4/11/15, hellekin wrote: Did you check that the fonts now display correctly (without the userscript)? == hk hellekin, it is not a script! It is one line of css. The icons are not fixed. They are still broken this morning. I'm going to re

Re: [Dng] fontawesome icon fix!

2015-04-11 Thread Go Linux
Arnt . . . posting to the list because your server bounced my response as spam. On Sat, 4/11/15, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] fontawesome icon fix! To: "Go Linux" Date: Saturday, April 11, 2015, 10:46 AM Go Linux write

Re: [Dng] Purpose of systemd-shim

2015-04-16 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 4/16/15, Anto wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] Purpose of systemd-shim To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, April 16, 2015, 1:05 PM > This is my personal opinion and I don't know what will happen to Devuan > even in the next 6 months or so.

[Dng] Gnome-creep into Jessie

2015-05-23 Thread Go Linux
Thought some of you might find this interesting. A sign of things to come? Or maybe I've totally missed the point (I'm still far from 'back-to-the-living'): Jessie, unwanted Gnome, xdg autostart, Console Kit http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=122178&sid=bd86a0bffd3a77e9f90dc9c52e59a0

Re: [Dng] I want to mount a Packages page, buildd and Wanna-build system

2015-06-02 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 6/2/15, APT Gatuno MX wrote: Does Devuan have logo? ___ https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues/20 There might be a more recent version posted elsewhere. hellekin will know better - I

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 6/11/15, Clarke Sideroad wrote: Subject: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, June 11, 2015, 7:35 AM It seems my fresh netboot install this morning has swallowed and installed systemd. It

Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification)

2015-06-14 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 6/14/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification) To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, June 14, 2015, 10:17 AM [CUT] My life is so much simpler. I have one printer connected to one computer. Most

Re: [DNG] Testing - Please ignore and delete this email

2015-07-05 Thread Go Linux
That happens to me fairly regularly when I post frequently. Really annoying. On Sun, 7/5/15, Anto wrote: Subject: [DNG] Testing - Please ignore and delete this email To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, July 5, 2015, 3:49 PM This is just a test

Re: [DNG] Testing - Please ignore and delete this email

2015-07-05 Thread Go Linux
And I just got one too for my last post! I discussed this with Jaromil back in December but nothing has changed. Still the same old, same old . . . On Sun, 7/5/15, James Powell wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Testing - Please ignore and delete this emai

Re: [DNG] FW: systemd in wheezy, was: Re: bummer

2015-07-09 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 7/9/15, T.J. Duchene wrote: Subject: [DNG] FW: systemd in wheezy, was: Re: bummer To: "'dng'" Date: Thursday, July 9, 2015, 12:14 PM > -Original Message- > From: T.J. Duchene [mailto:t.j.duch...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 12:14 PM > To: 'Teodoro Santoni'

Re: [DNG] systemd in wheezy, was: Re: bummer

2015-07-13 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 7/13/15, Didier Kryn wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd in wheezy, was: Re: bummer To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, July 13, 2015, 11:45 AM > That said, I fully agree with you that udev is the major weapon the > systemd team is using to lock themselves in the place, and breaking

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-14 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 7/14/15, Daniel Reurich wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes To: "Franco Lanza" , dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 8:34 PM On 15/07/15 12:59, Franco Lanza wrote: >> >> nano -> vim: >> > No definitely not - Vim is huge in > comparison and has a

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-15 Thread Go Linux
On Wed, 7/15/15, Franco Lanza wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2015, 6:19 AM > Anyway, for all other pointing on "big changes" and so on, i > don't mean to change anything other than: > > when in debian we have nano and vim-t

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-15 Thread Go Linux
On Wed, 7/15/15, Klaus Ethgen wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2015, 11:02 AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Mi den 15. Jul 2015 um 16:27 schrieb John Crisp: > On 15/07/15 17:14, Klaus Ethgen wrot

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-19 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 7/19/15, Nextime wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2015, 12:23 PM [cut] > The issue, for me, is that after install i have to remove nano,or at least > change the > $EDITOR env var. I don't like to find nano when i

[DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-07-21 Thread Go Linux
Just ran across this interview from 2011: https://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/12/13/people-behind-debian-ben-hutchings-member-of-the-kernel-team/ Tucked away at the end was this quote: Raphael: What’s the biggest problem of Debian? Ben: I think we try too hard to accommodate every possible option,

[DNG] Test

2015-08-01 Thread Go Linux
This list has been dead for several days. Just checking . . . ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] ideas for system startup

2015-08-07 Thread Go Linux
Good grief . . . this is turning into some sort of battle of the titans . . . would be nice to take the egos down a notch . . . On Fri, 8/7/15, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] ideas for system startup To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday,

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-08 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 8/8/15, Mark S Bilk wrote: Subject: [DNG] Systemd Shims To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, August 8, 2015, 11:49 AM [cut] So please drop the fear of contamination, and consider the shims as a simple, inexpensive and effective wall of defense against systemd.  Mark -

Re: [DNG] Packaging (was Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in packages, possibly Mission Creep)

2015-08-10 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 8/9/15, T.J. Duchene wrote: Subject: [DNG] Packaging (was Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in packages, possibly Mission Creep) To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, August 9, 2015, 8:42 PM > > All that Devuan really needs to provide is a De

Re: [DNG] Packaging (was Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in packages, possibly Mission Creep)

2015-08-11 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 8/10/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Packaging (was Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in packages, possibly Mission Creep) To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, August 10, 2015, 6:32 PM > If my assumption is correct, the only way making the base install tiny > affects you is tha

Re: [DNG] Excessive bouncing

2015-08-11 Thread Go Linux
I just got that message again too. Yes, really annoying . . . BTW, your inline attachments are not coming through the dng list. On Tue, 8/11/15, James Powell wrote: Subject: [DNG] Excessive bouncing To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Tuesday, Aug

Re: [DNG] Packaging (was Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in packages, possibly Mission Creep)

2015-08-11 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 8/11/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Packaging (was Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in packages, possibly Mission Creep) To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2015, 11:27 AM On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 07:02:28 -0700 Go Linux wrote: > On Mon, 8/10/15, Steve Litt wr

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-12 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 8/11/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2015, 1:11 PM [cut] > > If you're not yet familiar with the procedure and philosophy of chroot > installation and configuration and Grubbing, I'd recommend before

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-14 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 8/14/15, T.J. Duchene wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, August 14, 2015, 2:47 PM > I know not everyone here agrees with me, especially Steve, and that's > perfectly okay. I have no problem with that at all. I just don't see > "System 5 pure

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-15 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 8/14/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, August 14, 2015, 7:26 PM On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:49:17 -0700 Go Linux wrote: > On Fri, 8/14/15, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims > To: dng@li

Re: [DNG] Devuan and upstream

2015-08-15 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 8/15/15, Simon Hobson wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan and upstream To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Saturday, August 15, 2015, 3:53 PM Hendrik Boom wrote: >> THe way I heard the story, in the ncient days when Apple was choosing >> the k

[DNG] What's the diff between these isos?

2015-08-17 Thread Go Linux
I'm a bit confused - nothing new there. :) I want to give the alpha a test run on metal. Centurion_Dan posted links to the first two. edbarx listed the other two. I want to install from a cd (never tried from usb) and end up with a functional xfce DE (hopefully with suspend) with no headach

Re: [DNG] What's the diff between these isos?

2015-08-18 Thread Go Linux
mil wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] What's the diff between these isos? To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2015, 7:18 AM On Mon, 17 Aug 2015, Go Linux wrote: > I'm a bit confused - nothing new there. :) nah, you are a bit too much of a modest person. the confusion

Re: [DNG] Linux-related critique

2015-08-19 Thread Go Linux
On Wed, 8/19/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Linux-related critique To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 9:25 AM On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:16:46 -0700 James Powell wrote: > Jaromil, truth be told, I actually hold back in my critique of > systemd and the people who

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 8/23/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, August 23, 2015, 10:27 AM > > GTK* is, imho, too big a hammer for writing this simple back end. It > would pull in thousands of lines of code. >

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Go Linux
I'm just realizing that Pascal and Lazarus Pascal might be two different things. Apologies for any confusion . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 8/23/15, Adam Borowski wrote: Subject: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, August 23, 2015, 1:34 PM > Today on #debconf: > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-08-26 Thread Go Linux
On Wed, 8/26/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015, 11:31 AM On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:58:14 +0200 Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 17:29 +0200, Joerg Reisenwebe

Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?

2015-08-27 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 8/27/15, fsmithred wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu? To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015, 6:23 PM On 08/27/2015 09:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > On 08/27/2015 09:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote: >> >> Where can I find and d

Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?

2015-08-27 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 8/27/15, Steve Litt wrote: > Subject: Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu? > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015, 7:47 PM > > Another interest: Where can I find an up-to-date alpha2-amd64 netinstall ISO? >

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-29 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 8/29/15, poitr pogo wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide To: "dng" Date: Saturday, August 29, 2015, 10:14 AM > > So let them build desktop oriented linux, and let us focus on the > server oriented version. >

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-09-01 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 9/1/15, Jaromil wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 8:37 AM [snip] > We do not need these sorts of debates here, we need to facilitate the > work of those

Re: [DNG] NVidia driver howto?

2015-09-03 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 9/3/15, hal wrote: hal wrote on 08/28/15 06:18: > I searched for 'devuan nvidia' and did not find any howto/docs so went to > wiki.debian.org Got this working! Not sure if the modprobe files helped or just removing the xorg.conf. In case someone else is trying to get X working with th

Re: [DNG] NVidia driver howto?

2015-09-03 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 9/3/15, hal wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] NVidia driver howto? To: "Go Linux" , dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, September 3, 2015, 8:41 AM On September 3, 2015 7:43:01 AM CDT, Go Linux wrote: :: :: Doesn't sgfxi automate all that? Last time I had to install an :: nV

Re: [DNG] upgrade wheezy to devuan jessie instead of ceres

2015-09-14 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 9/14/15, Didier Kryn wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] upgrade wheezy to devuan jessie instead of ceres To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, September 14, 2015, 2:58 PM Le 14/09/2015 21:48, Rob Owens a écrit : > I only chose ceres because that was the default when I installed > devuan-basec

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

2015-09-21 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 9/21/15, Edward Bartolo wrote: Subject: [DNG] What can I do after netman? To: "dng" Date: Monday, September 21, 2015, 11:41 AM > > Dear All, > Since netman is effectively ready, and I can still offer my coding > services to the Devuan project, I would like to ask what task shoul

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

2015-09-25 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 9/25/15, Jaromil wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman? To: "dng" Date: Friday, September 25, 2015, 5:12 PM On September 25, 2015 5:07:31 PM GMT+02:00, Hleb Valoshka <375...@gmail.com> wrote: >> If your possible next project will look like netman then please do >> n

Re: [DNG] Anyone wanting to create a set of icons for netman?

2015-09-27 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 9/27/15, Edward Bartolo wrote: Subject: Anyone wanting to create a set of icons for netman? To: "dng" , "Go Linux" Date: Sunday, September 27, 2015, 10:54 AM > > Hi All, > > Now that netman has been systray enabled, I need someone > with some > art

Re: [DNG] Devuan Constitu..?

2015-09-27 Thread Go Linux
Links to those documents would be helpful. Some folks (including me) have trouble finding stuff on git. Thanks. golinux On Sun, 9/27/15, natacha wrote: Subject: [DNG] Devuan Constitu..? To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, September 27, 2015, 2:

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 13, Issue 9

2015-10-03 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 10/3/15, JeremyBekka C wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 13, Issue 9 To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015, 10:16 AM > > Sorry about that. I forgot to change the subject line before sending. That is > one of the reasons I don't > like using gmail. I am lookin

Re: [DNG] live-build experiment worked!

2015-10-08 Thread Go Linux
Wasn't fsmithred going to do that with refracta? He already has a 'live' alpha2 available! Maybe I'm missing something . . . On Thu, 10/8/15, Jaromil wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] live-build experiment worked! To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday,

Re: [DNG] live-build experiment worked!

2015-10-08 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 10/8/15, Jaromil wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] live-build experiment worked! To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, October 8, 2015, 8:21 AM On Thu, 08 Oct 2015, Go Linux wrote: > Wasn't fsmithred going to do that with refracta? He already has a

Re: [DNG] two miscommunications about refracta and live-build

2015-10-08 Thread Go Linux
Here's a synopsis of the changes that fsmithred made to create the live iso posted August 28: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150828.110825.2dafa442.en.html Maybe you two should get together? I've been using Refracta for several years. Love the tools and selection of packages. My phi

Re: [DNG] Distrowatch

2015-10-31 Thread Go Linux
Would be interesting to see the stats from the searches. This could be added to the list: http://refracta.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=529 golinux On Sat, 10/31/15, Don Wright wrote: Subject: [DNG] Distrowatch To: "dng" Date: Saturday,

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