Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

On 7/29/21 6:00 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > American != English > > Rowland Also,     British != English     Canadian != English     Indian != English     Australian != English     Ugandan != English Chaucer == English -Bob,mon. __

[DNG] manpages

> Looking for the gcc..g++ suite manpages, expected to find them in 'gcc-doc' > but it's missing. > Anybody point me in the right direction ? I found the answer in https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/523079/what-packages-the-man-pages-for-gcc-on-debian-10-buster-testing

Re: [DNG] Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

Dear Friends and Software Freedom Lovers, Devuan Developers are pleased to announce the release of Devuan Chimaera 4.0 as the project's newest stable release. This is the result of lots of painstaking work by the team and extensive testing by the wider Devuan community. I'm sorry to report th

Re: [DNG] Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

On 10/17/21 07:48, terryc wrote: I'm sorry to report that I tried a dist-upgrade from devuan beowulf with KDE on an older machine.  The result was a system with a nonfunctional window manager and messed-up display resolution, and no working Ethernet connection (and no wifi hardware). AFAIK, that

Re: [DNG] bash / quote weirdness

On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 00:08 +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: Dear list, this im my 'test.sh': #!/bin/bash for f in "$@" ; do xcmd="unrar x" $xcmd "$f" done Can please somebody explain, why, if I double-quote the "$xc

Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs

On 1/21/22 06:00, terryc wrote: Didn't Linus start what became Linux because Minix was only 286 capable and was not going to be upgraded and Linux wanted something that would run on 386 cpus. I think there was also a licensing issue involved in modifying Minix. Minix exemplified Andy Tanenba

Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs

Thanks for the correction.  Here's a Wikipedia link to the "Tanenbaum-Torvalds debate": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanenbaum%E2%80%93Torvalds_debate -bobmon On 1/21/22 08:12, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: On 1/21/22 06:00, terryc wrote: Didn't Linus start what became Linux because M

[DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the audio, camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in the power switch).  I could use some guidance in what to look for... It has a Tiger Lake-H processor, I don't know what chipset.  I think I need a command li

Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

x27;s no help.  Am I right that the process for Debian and for Devuan should be about the same? thanks again, -Bob On 4/25/22 05:54, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: On 24 Apr 2022, at 21:28, . via Dng wrote: I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the audio

Re: [DNG] Raspberry Pi 4 (Brad Campbell)

On 7/6/19 5:17 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Message: 5 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 16:22:33 +0800 From: Brad Campbell To:dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: [DNG] Raspberry Pi 4 Message-ID:<9d5f2187-0575-650b-29f9-0d1e226cd...@fnarfbargle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed G'

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 61, Issue 25

Any chance of an embedded release for the Raspberry Pi 4B?  (The 64-bit raspi3 image fails to boot on the 4B.) On 10/22/19 6:00 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, > desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available fo

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 61, Issue 37

Somebody called "sakaki" has put together a working 64-bit gentoo distro for the Raspberry Pi 4B.  You might be able to use that as a starting point, and put devuan on top of it. The gentoo distro works pretty well, except that it updates by recompiling and that takes a lo-o-o-ong time.  And i

[DNG] Terminology question

> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 09:59:53 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > There are files and directories. > > Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity > for something which might be a file or a directory? > > -- hendrik Maybe "filesystem element" ? My understanding is that filesystems such

[DNG] problem with KDE/plasma on Beowulf / pulseaudio too

Hello all, I have a thinkpad laptop with a separate numeric keypad.  I was using devuan ascii with KDE happily on this machine, but when I upgraded to beowulf  I lost the use of the numeric keypad.  It appears to be KDE/plasma that's at fault, so I resigned myself to using LXQT instead of KDE. Bu

Re: [DNG] ifstat.eth0 on Boot

How new is the laptop? What is the model of network card? Without knowing anything about your hardware or configuration I would first check no other device like wireless is trying to connect. If it's not and the router/dhcp is definitely not doing something stupid: Then probably you should chec

Re: [DNG] Samba 4.9 Package

On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 12:24:14PM -0600, Bob Wooldridge wrote: > I'm setting up a domain controller using Devuan ascii.  Is there a package > available for Samba 4.9 that will work?  There appears to be a Samba 4.9 > package in Debian Sid.  Would this work? The package samba 4.9.2+dfsg-2 is avail

[DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

Media partitioning, formatting Configure mountpoints Install Bootloader Install Kernel, Modules & Firmware Install Shell & package management software Configure console Configure network Boot Discuss... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://ma

Re: [DNG] Drive-by critique

On 12/12/2018 15:22, KatolaZ wrote: [snip] > > Please find below the stats of the actual number of downloads of each > ASCII image according to https://files.devuan.org in the last 14 days > (without taking into account the other 24 ISO mirrors): > > - netinst: 149 > - DVD ISO: 13

[DNG] net_install.iso repo contains no Release file.

Приветствую. I just have installed "ASCII", 32bit version, from the net_install.iso. My problem is: at the time of configuration apt sources.list, all the mirrors say, that it does not contain packages for the release! On first logging in, i found the file contains only the net_install.iso repo

Re: [DNG] net_install.iso repo contains no Release file.

Приветствую. В Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:36:28 +0700, ты писал(а): > I just have installed "ASCII", 32bit version, from the > net_install.iso. My problem is: at the time of configuration apt > sources.list, all the mirrors say, that it does not contain packages > for the release! > > On first logging

Re: [DNG] net_install.iso repo contains no Release file.

Приветствую. В Sun, 16 Dec 2018 12:47:48 +0100, ты писал(а): > Can you please show your full /etc/apt/sources.list, together with > the sha256sum of the image you have used to installe? Sorry for the noise! The culprit was firewall, as usually. :^) I did install in the VM. Андрей. ___

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

On 16/12/2018 12:28, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 07:08:10AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > You see: in just two emails we have come from a *minimal* base > installation (a shell with a kernel, a bootloader, and a working > dpkg/apt) to a fully-functioning network server

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

On 16/12/2018 20:06, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 07:11:25PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> That is my issue, focus has been lost on what an 'Installer' should do. >> A great deal is performed at install time that falls into the

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

On 17/12/2018 00:41, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 16/12/18 at 13:28, KatolaZ wrote: >> automagic disk encryption, > > >   Well, if you cannot install on an encrypted root, encrypting it later > is a real PITA. > >   The present impossibility of installing ASCII on an encrypted root is > a show-s

Re: [DNG] firefox-esr: no sound after dist-upgrade

I know this thread is three months old and the bugs with FF60 have been addressed, but I thought it might be useful to add that apulse is a fine working solution, especially for users averse (as I am) to PulseAudio. The instructions at https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/09/msg00263.html

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

On 18/12/2018 13:19, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:51:53PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:28:43 +0100 >> KatolaZ wrote: > >> Also, Hendrik is right: If the bootable installer >> finds information, it should be saved for the secondary installer to >> use. >

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

On 18/12/2018 03:48, Steve Litt wrote: > [snip] > Perhaps reframing it would make a difference. Perhaps renaming the > second program "Install Software" (install_software), and having it > boot into install_software, would satisfy all but the most > windows-phobic that the sum of the two programs a

[DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

I often have difficulty with correct terminology despite having a very definite idea. The term 'Installer' applies to the first stage actions taken outside of the package manager such as partitioning, formatting, bootloader and kernel... which actually make the build host bootable. There 'may' be

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

[snip] > > You are confusing a simple config file that is read once and for all > during boot time (the config file on raspberry pis) with the complete > installation of a new system. They are not even comparable. There is > no thing like "oh I re-run the installer configuration to change the > la

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

> > I still fail understanding what you mean by "Program 2". It's called, > maybe, just "apt-get" or "synaptic". > OK, um.. take tasksel, clone it into two. In tasksel one [1], keep everything that is NOT optional (and is stateful). Partitioning, formatting, kernel, bootloader, package manager

[DNG] No dependency packages in ASCII repo for nvidia's xorg-video-driver.

Приветствую. How to solve problem of installing nvidia xorg-video-driver, when aptitude says that in ASCII repo no one of: nvidia-installer-cleanup nvidia-support glx-alternative-nvidia packages? Thank you for advice. Андрей. ___ Dng mailing list Dn

Re: [DNG] Multiple chromium mystery processes

Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:30, wrote: > I just noticed that chromium has started spawning multiple PIDs that > start with this string: > > PID chromium --type=renderer --field-trial-handle

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

On 12/17/18, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 17/12/2018 00:41, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On 16/12/18 at 13:28, KatolaZ wrote: >>> automagic disk encryption, >> The present impossibility of installing ASCII on an encrypted root is >> a show-stopper to my laptop install

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

> Here's a video showing how to create an encrypted partition using the > manual partitioning step in the installer. You probably did it wrong. > Don't feel bad - I did it wrong three times before I got it right for > the video, and I've done this before. > http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/misc/

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

On 12/21/18, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Thanks for the video, it took me more than three attempts :P. > I had existing partitions on the drive that I needed to keep so did not > go near the 'use entire disk' option. The partitioning in the video does > not encrypt the entire

Re: [DNG] Trouble with .onion addresses?

devuanfwojg73k6r.onion is down again. Does anyone know if this just a matter of waiting for it to be fixed, or should we begin planning for a different workflow? gl ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:14 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 09:09:27 -06

Re: [DNG] Trouble with .onion addresses?

On 12/19/18 5:35 PM, lpb+dev...@kandl.houston.tx.us wrote: > I'm all of a sudden having trouble using the .onion addresses. They've > worked fine for me for months. I'm getting "could not connect to > devuanfwojg73k6r.onion (0.0.0.0:0) due to: Host unreachable (6)" > > Is anyone else having this t

Re: [DNG] How to install NVIDIA driver?

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, 22 December 2018 17:23, Michael wrote: > Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland.Hi All, > > [Minimal install, Devuan ASCII w/ Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE)] > > I’m trying to install NVIDIA drivers for a GTX 1060. I’m basic

Re: [DNG] Bond ATI driver for old video cards.

Приветствую. В Wed, 19 Dec 2018 11:53:05 +0100, ты писал(а): > Please use https://pkginfo.devuan.org: > > > https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ascii/nvidia-installer-cleanup_20151021+4.html > > You need to add "contrib" and "non-free" to your sources.list. Thank you very much! And whi

Re: [DNG] No dependency packages in ASCII repo for nvidia's xorg-video-driver.

Приветствую. В Wed, 19 Dec 2018 10:30:32 -0600, ты писал(а): > Would someone add that info to the 'Package repositories' section of > https://devuan.org/os/ ? > > Actually, please add ALL the various sources options there. And a > full example of everything would sure help those of us that ha

Re: [DNG] Bond ATI driver for old video cards.

Приветствую. В Sat, 22 Dec 2018 22:21:51 -0800, ты писал(а): > The package is named 'greetings'? ;-> Yea, some kind of localization! ;^) Андрей. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Website changes

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 01:04:54PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Greetings! > > Some changes are being made to the Devuan website as a result of recent > discussions on this list and the dev1galaxy forum. > > 1) One user commented that they had no idea which iso to choose. So > descriptions o

Re: [DNG] [kato...@freaknet.org: Re: Debugging Devuan .onion/TOR]

Still timing out on my end. Error messages in full: "The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensur

Re: [DNG] Website changes

, 2018 6:35 PM, wrote: > On 2018-12-24 11:53, Gastón via Dng wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 01:04:54PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > > > > Greetings! > > > Some changes are being made to the Devuan website as a result of > > > recent >

Re: [DNG] Admins can you fix/set the header overrides?

I can confirm that I haven't set a reply-to header, but this is just a web mail. It could be that my webmail provider just doesn't allow me to unset the header, but I haven't looked that far into it. Cheers, chillfan ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, December 26, 2018 4:07 PM, Mi

Re: [DNG] Bond ATI driver for old video cards.

Приветствую. В Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:19:14 +0100, ты писал(а): > I only cared about video performance and quality in FlightGear, > where the radeon (and nouveau!) driver proved best on my hardware > (9250, 9800, X850XT-PE, HD4890 and GeForce GTS 250 (came with the > HD4890) at 2048x1536x32bpp@5 t

Re: [DNG] Added desktop-live to the install guides

Validating the images is optional but I think it's useful to tell people how this is done for those that want it. That part could easily be rewritten to be optional and a recommendation only. That's my suggestion for this anyway. So something like: Installation images distributed by Devuan are

Re: [DNG] Added desktop-live to the install guides

think on using unetbootin. Cheers, chillfan ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 9:25 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 01-01-19 22:04, chillfan--- via Dng wrote: > > > Validating the images is optional but I think it's useful to tel

Re: [DNG] What should an Install Guide accomplish?

Historically the community has always responded to things that are minimal and simple, and not so much to things that are bloated or windowsy, or similar. Imho, a reason why a new user might look to Devuan could be because it's less like windows than some of the others, and the community support

Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera

Hey Olaf, Στις 22/4/21 11:55 π.μ., ο/η Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng έγραψε: Is debfoster smart(er) about asking what you want to keep? As in asking you about the packages that keep most of the other packages installed first (rather than going through potential removals alphabetically)? yes

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:59:02 +0800 Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > G'day All, > > I've upgraded a staging server from Jessie to Beowulf and find a > script in my initramfs is now broken, tracking it down it is a huge > change in behaviour in the busybox version o

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 29, 2021 2:59 AM, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > G'day All, > > I've upgraded a staging server from Jessie to Beowulf and find a script in my > initramfs is now broken, tracking it down it is a huge change in behav

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:59:02 +0800 Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > G'day All, > > I've upgraded a staging server from Jessie to Beowulf and find a > script in my initramfs is now broken, tracking it down it is a huge > change in behaviour in the busybox version o

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

<--snip--> > Hi, > by looking at the latest git code: > > static const struct op operators[] ALIGN_PTR = { > #if ENABLE_FEATURE_DC_LIBM > {"^", power}, > // {"exp", power}, > // {"pow", power}, > #endif > {"%", mod}, > // {"mod", mod}, > // logic ops are not standard, remove? > {"and", and}, > {

Re: [DNG] connection manager as failing dns resolver?

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 4:19:34 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote > On 29-04-2021 22:11, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 12:53:53PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > >> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > >>> Looks as if the connection manager is taking over dns. > >>> > >>> Who knew?

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

Στις 4/5/21 11:05 μ.μ., ο/η Arnt Karlsen έγραψε: So, there ya go: Avoid installing and running it. It's called system administration simple and powerful advice :) ..very true. Are there ways to trick common Devuan installs into automatically installing these bad things? (Other than tricki

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

Στις 5/5/21 11:49 π.μ., ο/η Dr. Nikolaus Klepp έγραψε: And there's alway the possibillity of 3rd party software, e.g. Teams, Appimages, ... true... i misread original question, thought it was asking about devuan installation process and not already installed systems.. d. OpenPGP_signatur

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

On Wed, 05 May 2021 19:04:10 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi Martin, list, > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > > Hi! > > > > goli...@devuan.org - 02.05.21, 22:15:48 CEST: > >> On 2021-05-02 06:08, terryc wrote: > >> > Unfortunately there

Re: [DNG] exim4 packages 4.92-8+deb10u6 in beowulf-security?

On Sat, May 08, 2021 at 10:20:23AM +0800, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > On 7/5/21 2:21 pm, Thomas Besser via Dng wrote: > > Am 06.05.21 um 20:53 schrieb Ludovic Bellière: > >> You mean this[1] package? > >> > >> [1]: > >> https://pkginfo.devuan.org

Re: [DNG] network measurement

browser delays could be due to slow dns resolving.. i'd also suggest a local caching resolver as ralph suggested... do you ping anything while on these delays? if you're losing many packages, then i'd call ISP first to check dsl line.. some tools for network traffic : iftop, nload, nethogs, v

[DNG] End of free open source software?

Hi to all, today while reading online my selection of international newspapers on the german www. faz.net I've found this little article which made my antennas vibrate, link is: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/reform-der-produkthaftung-verbraucher-sollen-vor-schaeden-durch-softwarefehler-ge

Re: [DNG] End of free open source software?

sorry, but this subject reads like some yellow-press, bringing end-of-the-world, out of an irrelevant wish? (=speculations, wishes and rumors) and it doesn't even mention FOSS anywhere... so, this all reads like BS (imho), not byuing it. 2c, d. Στις 9/5/21 9:33 π.μ., ο/η tito vi

Re: [DNG] network measurement

On Friday, 7 May at 20:02, Hendrik Boom wrote: (...) My home network accesses the rest of the world using a Linux box, whch also hosts a website, does SMTP, does firewalling/masquerading, and has a file server for the LAN. That Linux box is the only thing connected directly to the DSL modem, w

Re: [DNG] Please don't imply this kind of equality: was Re: End of free open source software?

Στις 10/5/21 9:44 μ.μ., ο/η Steve Litt έγραψε: But trump doesn't rise to hitler's criminality. He didn't build death camps. surely, noone stands up to such "high" standards... except for similar dictators like stalin and lots of kings/feudarchs from earlier centuries... trump facts in compa

Re: [DNG] Multiple resignations from Freenode's staff ??? New drama shake the opensource

Morning @ll, Στις 20/5/21 5:17 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: It appears that Mr. Lee's corporate entity "freenode Limited" has, at least for now, Registrant status for three Internet domains, freenode.net/org/com. Mr. Lee appears to have no other assets relevant to what until now was called Free

Re: [DNG] Ossec-hids for Beowulf

On 20/05/21 11:23, Luciano Mannucci wrote: I need to install an ossec-hids (from www.ossec.net) agent on a Devuan Beowulf PPC64 machine. AFAIK the .deb package is not supported direcly by Devuan and I cannot find a Debian PPC version. Compiling would be trivial if I can get pcre2 devel libs and

Re: [DNG] Strange browser home

firefox has the idea to check if some other instance is running and use that instead. That causes some wired behavior. try firefox --no-remote Am 19.05.21 um 14:47 schrieb Hendrik Boom: I ssh -X from my laptop (midwinter) to my server, april. On april I start a browser. Of course it displays

[DNG] attempting to migrate from Buster to Beowulf

Greetings For a number of reasons I would prefer to migrate (this machine is a server test bed (where I experiment)). Following the 'destrucitons' on: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/buster-to-beowulf I'm totally stuck at: If you want to use the wicd network manager this ne

Re: [DNG] attempting to migrate from Buster to Beowulf

On Sun, 23 May 2021 07:53:21 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > For a number of reasons I would prefer to migrate (this machine is a > server test bed (where I experiment)). > > Following the 'destrucitons' on: > https://www.devuan.org/os/docume

Re: [DNG] attempting to migrate from Buster to Beowulf

On Sun, 23 May 2021 09:00:43 -0500 o1bigtenor wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 8:03 AM tito via Dng > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 23 May 2021 07:53:21 -0500 > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > For a number of r

[DNG] Devuan eBook Reader

I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.

[DNG] Request for assistance with install

Greetings Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope. Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the install. Got stuck when the install demands a place to install grub and this is an EFI setup. Please advise TIA ___ Dng mail

Re: [DNG] Ossec-hids for Beowulf

> On 25 May 2021, at 05:14, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > >  > Many thanks Olaf, for your help. > >> On Mon, 24 May 2021 21:29:25 +0900 >> Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> The error message is about linux-libc-dev which is at 4.19.181-1 for >> Beowulf. So while close, the mirror that your apt-get

Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:51 PM o1bigtenor wrote: > > Greetings > > Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope. > Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the install. > Got stuck when the install demands a place to install grub and this is > an EFI setup. > Thought I

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 5:42 AM, Simon Walter wrote: > Hi all, > > I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan. > The reason I wanted to do this is because the packages are available in > the default repos. > > After installing it on

Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 9:56 PM Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:46:06 -0500 > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:51 PM o1bigtenor > > wrote: > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > Tried a migration fr

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

<--snip--> > > I sympathise, but am not sure this would (currently) be the best use of > > resources. > > There is an ever growing list of packaged applications that do not function > > without SystemD. > > If every one were identified, then removal of all from the repos may be > > justified. >

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

Thanks for chirping in Mark. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 4:37 PM, Mark Hindley wrote: > This is actually a Debian bug and should be fixed there. > > If cockpit requires systemd, is should declare that dependency. > > If the dependency were present, amprolla woul

Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader

On Tuesday, 25 May at 14:01, Steve Litt wrote: terryc said on Tue, 25 May 2021 08:35:12 +1000 On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + g4sra via Dng wrote: I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporaril

Re: [DNG] ifupdown laptop wired/wifi trick

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 1:26 AM Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 25/05/2021 à 21:43, Mason Loring Bliss a écrit : > > I've been managing network connections on my laptop by hand, and I was just > > thinking that I'd like it to bring up its NICs automatically if it's > > plugged in, but I didn't want to u

Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:35 AM Tim Wallace via Dng wrote: > > I've had intermittent trouble with Devuan/EFI from day 1, when I got a new > MB/SSD and found out I had to use EFI for my hardware to work. Most recent > was a bad grub update (you may recall that was a topic of

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, May 31, 2021 8:25 PM, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > I received this e-mail yesterday, and again today: > > --- > > exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog on quixote.home has non-

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:43:54 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 31 May 2021 at 21:37:30, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > Is deleting the paniclog the proper way to stop receiving these > > > e-mails? > > > > No, don't delete it, empty it, this should b

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, May 31, 2021 8:43 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 31 May 2021 at 21:37:30, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > Is deleting the paniclog the proper way to stop receiving these e-mails? > > > > No, don't delete it, empty

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

> On 1 Jun 2021, at 05:26, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > > I received this e-mail yesterday, and again today: > > - > exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog on quixote.home has non-zero size, mail > system might be broken. The las

Re: [DNG] halt

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, June 10th, 2021 at 8:37 AM, Simon Walter wrote: > I am researching the behavior of halt on various Linux distros. They > seem to be inconsistent. > halt has different man pages: > In ascii: > " > AUTHOR > Miquel van Smoorenburg, miqu...@cistron.nl >

Re: [DNG] r/devuanon reddit.com. is anyone here looking after it?

From: "terryc" ; Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 3:34:43 AM: > Noticed today that the last post was 6 months ago. > > It could probably do with something recent, like the release of 3.1 perhaps. I had a look at this subreddit, and it refers to itself as "an unofficial community devoted to the Devuan

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, June 11th, 2021 at 2:58 PM, Fred wrote: > On 6/10/21 11:29 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: <--snip--> > > I did find the man page for udisks. I will study that and the article > for autofs. Likely one of them will work fine. The intended use 'autofs' is f

Re: [DNG] Hopman and inotify

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 15:35:56 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I think inotify is the best foundation for a usb plugin/plugout > detector. I used it in my early 2015 proof of concept proving that > Poettering's socket activation was overkill and could be accomplished > much less intrusively

Re: [DNG] ..maybe webmin?, was: Cockpit removal might make sense

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:41:28 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > d...@d404.nl writes: > > > On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >>> ..snip "tech" justificatio

[DNG] Another request for assistance

Greetings Not to long ago I was getting assistance on either migrating a Debian buster (stable) system to Devuan Beowulf except I needed to install Devuan. Lots of room on the single hdd so was able to successfully install - - - - except . . . The present Devuan system can be booted using rEFInd

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 12:37:00 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 6/11/21 7:05 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:37:13 -0700 > > Fred wrote: > > > >> On 6/10/21 1:48 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > >>> On Thu, 10

Re: [DNG] Hopman and inotify

On Sunday, 13 June at 12:26, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 09:16:46AM +0200, tito via Dng wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 15:35:56 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I think inotify is the best foundation for a usb plugin/plugout > detector. I used it in my early 2

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

<--snip--> > > > > > > The udisksd man page says the daemon is started by dbus-daemon or > > > systemd. However, it is not started by inserting a USB device. > > > tried starting it manually (with USB device inserted) and received > > > this: > > > > > > root@aragog:/home/fred# /usr/lib/udi

Re: [DNG] Another request for assistance

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 4:11 PM Tim Wallace wrote: > After you boot with rEFInd, follow the directions for "Reinstalling > grub-efi on your hard drive" on this page: GrubEFIReinstall - Debian Wiki > > > GrubEFIReinstall - Debian Wiki > >

Re: [DNG] Another request for assistance

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:42:04 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 4:11 PM Tim Wallace > wrote: > > > After you boot with rEFInd, follow the directions for "Reinstalling > > grub-efi on your hard drive" on this page: GrubEFIRei

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

<--snip--> > Unfortunately I am not able to find what package contains gvfs-udisks2-vo. <--snip--> apt-file search gvfs-udisks2-vo gvfs-daemons: /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor gvfs-daemons: /usr/lib/systemd/user/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor.service publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42

Re: [DNG] package search methods was ( USB mount problem)

On Wednesday, June 16th, 2021 at 1:59 AM, Fred wrote: > On 6/15/21 1:24 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > <--snip--> > > > Unfortunately I am not able to find what package contains gvfs-udisks2-vo. > > > <--snip--> > > > apt-file search gvfs-udisks2-v

[DNG] ntp setup

Greetings Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate. Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I know there is a way to do this without systemd - - - - - just - - - its been a very long time since I've

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:31:23 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate. > > Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information > relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I know ther

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