Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-22 Thread golinux
On 2019-04-22 01:18, Andrew McGlashan wrote: If I was to lose faith in Devuan, which I'm now invested in, then I would consider the following, especially ahead of Debian (unless I wished to return with systemd). https://mxlinux.org/ FYI . . . this thread is rather interesting: http://foru

[DNG] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-22 Thread Daniel Reurich
Dear friends, fellow users and contributors to Devuan. I have come to a point of personal crisis with regards to my involvement in Devuan. I have given a great deal of time to bringing Devuan to where it is today. Of late have my efforts have been largely in the background in maintaining the bui

[DNG] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-22 Thread Daniel Reurich
Dear friends, fellow users and contributors to Devuan. I have come to a point of personal crisis with regards to my involvement in Devuan. I have given a great deal of time to bringing Devuan to where it is today. Of late have my efforts have been largely in the background in maintaining the bui

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-22 Thread Rick Moen
Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. I've seen only the public portions of these text-format interactions, but think I'm seen enough data to assess the basic situation. Although I'm a friendly outsider to Devuan Project governance, I've seen many similar destructive spirals in op

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-22 Thread etech3
On 04/22/2019 10:24 PM, Rick Moen wrote: Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. I've seen only the public portions of these text-format interactions, but think I'm seen enough data to assess the basic situation. Although I'm a friendly outsider to Devuan Project governance, I've

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-22 Thread mett
On 2019年4月23日 11:24:39 JST, Rick Moen wrote: >Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. > >I've seen only the public portions of these text-format interactions, >but think I'm seen enough data to assess the basic situation. Although >I'm a friendly outsider to Devuan Project governanc

[DNG] Things to think about

2019-04-22 Thread golinux
Before last Wednesday's Devuan meet. I collected a few thoughts that I hoped might be useful. What wishful thinking . . . 1. Personal attacks are rarely constructive. "Say it forget it, write it regret it." 2. It's not about you. It's about Devuan. Please get out of your own way. 3. Ne