[DNG] Devuan server outage -- Please read

2019-03-10 Thread KatolaZ
Hi D1rs, we have experienced an outage to part of the Devuan infrastructure. As a result, the following services are not currently reachable: - www.devuan.org - packages.devuan.org - *.mirror.devuan.org - ci.devuan.org We are working to resolve the issue. In the meanwhile, please use 'deb.devuan

Re: [DNG] Devuan server outage -- Please read

2019-03-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi KatolaZ. KatolaZ - 10.03.19, 10:14: > we have experienced an outage to part of the Devuan infrastructure. As > a result, the following services are not currently reachable: > > - www.devuan.org > - packages.devuan.org > - *.mirror.devuan.org > - ci.devuan.org > > We are working to resolve the

[DNG] sans dbus/udev (was Re: new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id)

2019-03-10 Thread karl
Didier: ... >     I disliked dbus even before people spoke of systemd and I'm afraid > dbus becomes some day the way to force systemd on us.  I'd like to drop > it right away, but my usual DE (xfce) uses it. I don't know much about dbus, what is good/bad with dbus ? >     But I'm modes

Re: [DNG] Devuan server outage -- Please read -- UPDATE

2019-03-10 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:14:35AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > Hi D1rs, > > we have experienced an outage to part of the Devuan infrastructure. As > a result, the following services are not currently reachable: > > - www.devuan.org > - packages.devuan.org > - *.mirror.devuan.org > - ci.devuan.org >

Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-10 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 02:03:11AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 3/8/19 10:04 PM, Mark Hindley wrote: > > Would people who are experiencing missing slim utmp entries mind trying > > again > > with the following configuration added to /etc/slim.conf, please? > > > > sessionstop_cmd exec /usr

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2019 09 Mar 07:05 -0600, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > using the `hostid` command, I have (Devuan ASCII): > > $ hostid > 007f0101 > > which is the same value!!! > > I wonder... is it a "fixed" id for all Devuan installation as it seems to be? I get the same value on Debian Jessie i686, Debia

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2019 09 Mar 17:01 -0600, Antoine via Dng wrote: > It looks to me as if this is indeed the computer's IP address... just the > loopback one, slightly mangled: > > - 127.0.0.1 => 0.127.1.0 i.e. 007f0100 > or > - 127.0.1.1 => 0.127.1.1 i.e. 007f0101 > > I tried changing the IPaddress on my loop

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2019 09 Mar 18:09 -0600, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > All the info I have seen on this topic in the thread is consistent with > hostid returning the "mangled" IP address belonging to the machine's > current hostname. This is normally set from /etc/hostname. That file > is created during installa

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-10 Thread Jaromil
dear Karl, On Fri, 08 Mar 2019, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Jaromil: > > any thoughts about this new systemd-made thing that freedesktop > > immediately "standardized" (whatever is their procedure for that, > > likely smoking cigars among old-boys or so) > > https://www.freedesktop.org/software/sys

Re: [DNG] sans dbus/udev (was Re: new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id)

2019-03-10 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 10/03/2019 à 11:22, k...@aspodata.se a écrit : Since nowadays the kernel can provide devtmpfs, what is the role of udev et al apart from handling usb devices ?     1) Change owner, group and permissions because the kernel defaults everything to root.root and (I guess) 0600     2) Create a

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Jaromil - 10.03.19, 14:03: > > > but first things first: do we want /etc/machine-id? and how? > > > > In my view it falls in the completely unnessesary or the potentially > > dangerous group. > > > > I don't want it. > > while I'm still catching up with reading all the thread, I think you > make

Re: [DNG] Devuan server outage -- Please read -- SOLVED

2019-03-10 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:39:39AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] > > Hi All, > > still working on it. In the meanwhile, the website is back at > > http://www.dev-1.org > http://www.dev-one.org > > We will keep you posted with other updates. > Dear D1rs, just to let you know that everythin

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:58:52 +0100, Martin wrote in message <1790105.p7Nha06Ba6@merkaba>: > Jaromil - 10.03.19, 14:03: > > > > but first things first: do we want /etc/machine-id? and how? > > > > > > In my view it falls in the completely unnessesary or the > > > potentially dangerous group. >

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 10:28:50 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 09/03/2019 à 10:03, Didier Kryn a écrit : > > Le 09/03/2019 à 09:34, goli...@dyne.org a écrit : > >> I'd recommend adding an inotify rule to record which processes > >> look at these files, and publishing this - here. > > > >     Unfor

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 09 Mar 2019 10:25:39 -0600 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > I certainly did not write that! (I'm not even sure what inotify > is!) LOL! > > golinux inotify is a Linux specific kernel API that detects changes in the filesystem. It can be set to discover changes in a specific directory, or even

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-10 Thread R. G. Sidler
I used to and still do hot mount all my drives using autofs. Am 10. März 2019 20:24:20 MEZ schrieb Steve Litt : >On Sat, 09 Mar 2019 10:25:39 -0600 >goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > >> I certainly did not write that! (I'm not even sure what inotify >> is!) LOL! >> >> golinux > >inotify is a Linux spe