On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:49:56 +0200
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 04:59:16PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > You were so thorough giving facts that I didn't understand your
> > answer: Would you recommend using logger to transfer daemon stderr
> > (an
On 10/21/18, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> I don't think init scripts are considered configuration files, as in
> fact the are not.
...
> So, I expect an update to overwrite the init script with the update's
> version regardless, and to reset the permissions to those set in the
> package.
All fil
Le 23/10/2018 à 09:23, Steve Litt a écrit :
Just to be simple and clear:
syslog() is a member of the C library which allows any application
to send messages to the system logging facility, through the socket
/var/log/syslog and some lock mechanism (probably using a semaphore) to
prev
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
> syslog() is a member of the C library which allows any
> application to send messages to the system logging facility, through
> the socket /var/log/syslog and some lock mechanism (probably using a
> semaphore) to prevent two applications to write in the s
On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 11:06:52 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
syslog() is a member of the C library which allows any application
to send messages to the system logging facility, through the socket
/var/log/syslog and some lock mechanism (probably using a semaphore) to
I think you mean /dev/lo
Le 23/10/2018 à 05:58, mett a écrit :
Hi,
by the way, what do u think about
what is written on that page regarding
logging?
http://jdebp.eu./FGA/unix-daemon-design-mistakes-to-avoid.html
The fan-in/fan-out argument is an issue if you send massive amounts
of data to syslog(). In this case
Le 23/10/2018 à 11:21, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 11:06:52 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
syslog() is a member of the C library which allows any
application to send messages to the system logging facility, through
the socket /var/log/syslog and some lock mechanism (probably u
Hi,
Bruce Ferrell writes:
> [...]
>
> If I understand the original question "how to I get sysV init to not
> start a process present in the init system", There is a command,
> chkconfig:
Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:"
It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch) and later.
Arnt Karlsen writes:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 00:05:55 +1100, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote in
> message <6ec111c6-d733-4e15-a944-e2419b63c...@gmail.com>:
>
>> >
>> > For Ubuntu there is Remina or like (if I recall the proper name)
>> > but duno what needs for Devuan.
>> >
>> > Misko
>>
>> Remains is
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bruce Ferrell writes:
>
> > [...]
> >
> > If I understand the original question "how to I get sysV init to not
> > start a process present in the init system", There is a command,
> > chkconfig:
>
> Make that: "there *was
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 23:10:35 +0200, Miroslav wrote in message
<4149ab4f-76e2-f4e5-af96-38bd433dd...@uns.ac.rs>:
> On 10/20/2018 04:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> >>
> >> It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average. Some of them are more-less
> >> fluent in (pirated) Window$ -based mouse clicking to br
On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:"
It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch) and later. You can
still find it in oldstable (jessie) though. See
ht
Le 23/10/2018 à 15:45, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:"
It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch) and later. You can
still f
Quoting Stephan Seitz (stse+dev...@fsing.rootsland.net):
> As far as I know chkconfig was never a Debian tool. I only know it
> from RPM distros. Maybe someone tried to include chkconfig in
> Debian, but gave up later. Or it never really worked.
It may be of interest that the Red Hat 'chkconfig'
On 10/23/18 4:27 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
Hi,
Bruce Ferrell writes:
[...]
If I understand the original question "how to I get sysV init to not
start a process present in the init system", There is a command,
chkconfig:
Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:"
It's no longer present
On 2018年10月23日 18:44:25 JST, Didier Kryn wrote:
>Le 23/10/2018 à 11:21, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
>> On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 11:06:52 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
>>> syslog() is a member of the C library which allows any
>>> application to send messages to the system logging facility, through
>
>>
On 10/21/18 2:13 PM, eric wrote:
On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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The smart tv has wifi, like all this smart stuff we have today, if the
HDMI cable has internet, I doubt it, just audio an
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:06:52 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Logger is a way to redirect to syslog one of the output paths of
> an application, by the mean of a pipe, or for a script to send such
> messages. Logger reads messages and sends them by invoking the
> syslog() function. If you force a
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:45:19 +0200
Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> >> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:"
> >>
> >> It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 12:32:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
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>
> Ahh, the preceding explains why G. Pape says runit level logs are
> required on *some* daemons, but not others. If the daemon already
> performs meaningful syslog() calls, there's no reason for further
> logging. The logger pr
>> As far as I know chkconfig was never a Debian tool. I only know it
>> from RPM distros. Maybe someone tried to include chkconfig in Debian,
>> but gave up later. Or it never really worked.
I frequently used (and liked) chkconfig because it did work well on Red
Hat Distros. I can see that Debian
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:00:08 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 23/10/2018 à 15:45, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
> > On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> >>> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:"
> >>
On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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On 21/10/18 21:10, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
I first noticed it while testing Stretch, I run a multimedia setup
no problem with Jessie without systemd or wheezy,
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:00:08 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 23/10/2018 à 15:45, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
> > On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> >>> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:"
> >>
Is there any log of the actual issue?
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On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:18:39PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message
> <826ba68a-6289-d047-7e74-d970996d2...@in2p3.fr>:
>
> > Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit :
> > > I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in initta
On 10/23/18 9:24 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 10/21/18 2:13 PM, eric wrote:
On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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First o
Hi all,
I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most
daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, I'll
be using logger to capture stdout and stderr and put them in the logs.
If anybody has an objection to this, speak now or forever hold your
peace.
SteveT
On 10/23/18 2:19 PM, eric wrote:
On 10/23/18 9:24 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 10/21/18 2:13 PM, eric wrote:
On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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The smart tv has wifi, like all this smart st
On 10/23/18 2:19 PM, eric wrote:
On 10/23/18 9:24 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 10/21/18 2:13 PM, eric wrote:
On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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The smart tv has wifi, like all this smart st
On 10/23/18 11:27 AM, Bastiaan van den Berg wrote:
Is there any log of the actual issue?
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I made a post with the log last night, but it's now missing, gone,
caput, not even in my sent folder or my draft folder..
Here's the log:
[ 213.706282] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is
On 10/23/18 3:58 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
using logger to capture stdout and stderr
Steve, I found this:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/124455/linux-how-to-redirect-stdout-stderr-to-logger
What software do I need to install to follow you? Package 'logger' is a
bit obscure.
Thank
Using the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso image from a USB stick I
consistently get the error:
[!] Detect and mount CD-ROM
Error reading Release file
The CD-ROM does not seem to contain a valid 'Release' file,
or that file could not be read correctly.
Yo
Am 2018-10-24 00:58, schrieb Steve Litt:
I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most
daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, I'll
be using logger to capture stdout and stderr and put them in the logs.
If anybody has an objection to this, speak now o
On 10/24/2018 12:58 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
Hi all,
I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most
daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, I'll
be using logger to capture stdout and stderr and put them in the logs.
If anybody has an objection to this,
This smells bad, really bad, I dare say, like a putrifying animal. Is
the difficulty to keep up with startup scripts so great that Devuan
will have to bow its head to using a single supported init? This
reminds me of systemd. The excuse was, that Debian did not have enough
man-power to keep using s
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