Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-11-04 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 04/11/2017 à 00:35, John Hughes a écrit : Being "modern" is not always a good thing.  I'd have assumed that wasn't a controversial idea around here.     Regression is often saled in the name of modernity, for hiden political reasons. ___ Dng ma

Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-11-04 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Samstag, 4. November 2017 schrieb John Hughes: > > On 03/11/17 21:08, J. Fahrner wrote: > > > > Windows NT is based on DEC VMS, not a very modern OS ;-) > > I.E. more "modern" than Unix. > > Being "modern" is not always a good thing.  I'd have assumed that wasn't > a controversial idea aroun

Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-11-04 Thread m712
On 11/04/2017 02:09 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > >>> I sometimes have Richard Stallman as a house guest, >> Walk on egg shells much? > Seriously, Richard Stallman is a gracious and pleasant guest. > He's also extremely funny. > > I was at a Chinese resta

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-11-04 Thread aitor_czr
On 10/22/2017 03:37 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on dozens machines, and it has been working like a charm. Great news :) Aitor ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglist

Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-11-04 Thread Simon Hobson
m712 wrote: > I'd really like to meet Richard Stallman in person. I hope I can, someday. I've met him briefly when he did a speaking tour in the UK. He has a reputation for being direct and taking questions literally - and that's how I found him. I assume it's just the way he is, some of us ar

Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-11-04 Thread zap
> I've met him briefly when he did a speaking tour in the UK. > He has a reputation for being direct and taking questions literally - and > that's how I found him. I assume it's just the way he is, some of us are like > that. I think that's part of the reason many people "dislike" him - if you

Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-11-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de): > Indeed! Without him who knows if the free software movement even would > have started, let alone be as successful as it is... > > I may disagree on his views with certain things, but software freedom I > most definitely agree with him on for most things. When

Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-11-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 05:29:00PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > his very rigid attitude to freedom in software I'd prefer if this attitude was more rigid. For example, AGPL -- even worse as GPL-3 allows an "upgrade" to this non-free crock. It breaks FSF Freedom 0 "the freedom to use for any pur

Re: [DNG] Virtualbox?

2017-11-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, fsmithred writes: > On 10/25/2017 08:05 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Using the virtualbox package from either jessie (4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1) >> or jessie-backports (5.1.8-dfsg-6~bpo8+2) with a stock linux-image-amd64 >> (3.16+63) from jessie works fine. That is, it installs without errors >>

Re: [DNG] Virtualbox?

2017-11-04 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 10:55:42AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > The only issue I have at the moment is that the box' clock runs behind > at the pace of 20 seconds to the minute! That's despite the fact that > both the host OS and the Vagrant box have ntp/openntpd installed. The > host OS' cloc