Re: [DNG] Chris Lamb = Good Maintainer (Was: Debian testing drop redis)

2017-10-28 Thread John Hughes
On 27/10/17 21:56, Jaromil wrote: my training in hermeneutics and epistemology rings a bell about this being the wrong general attitude about changes and regressions, but for now I just rest on the fact redis "just works" in Devuan ASCII (using sysvinit) and that, as I stated at the beginning,

Re: [DNG] UEFI and Secure Boot

2017-10-28 Thread marc
> On Tue, 2017-10-24 at 09:01 +0200, marc wrote: > > > Secureboot is designed for them, not for you. You might come > > up with a really exotic use case, where it might help you. But > > if you look at it carefully enough, it relies on secureboot > > redefining root to something weaker than what w

Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting John Hughes (j...@atlantech.com): Just a note to say you strike me as saying useful and constructive things, for which my thanks. I wish some other good and valued folks, bless them one and all, were a bit less quick to pick a fight. There are much more interesting things to discuss. [

Re: [DNG] Chris Lamb = Good Maintainer (Was: Debian testing drop redis)

2017-10-28 Thread Jaromil
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017, John Hughes wrote: > While keeping your eyes peeled is obviously a good thing please > remember the downsides of crying wolf when the wolf isn't there. crying wolf?! we are the wolves!!! while since the move to systemd Debian is just an elephant walking on stills. ciao _

[DNG] ..console & X setup these days...

2017-10-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi, ..lost power last night while asleep, laptop batteries ran down, OS stability proved good enough for my abuse, I only logged in once during the last 130 day and 20-ish hours, according to my last run of uptime, too much post-Groklaw litigation meant no reboot even on kernel updates. ..booting

Re: [DNG] ID Quantique "Quantum" PCI-e RNG's - does anyone have more info?

2017-10-28 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
taii...@gmx.com writes: I can't imagine it being equivalent to a (non-intel/amd) hardware source of entropy when it comes to quality of entropy - have there been any quality analysis performed? Yes. But it misses the point. http://www.irisa.fr/caps/projects/hipsor/publications/havege-tomacs.

Re: [DNG] ..console & X setup these days...

2017-10-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:05:10 +, Arnt wrote in message <20171028110510.3e58558b@d44>: > Hi, > > ..lost power last night while asleep, laptop batteries ran down, OS > stability proved good enough for my abuse, I only logged in once > during the last 130 day and 20-ish hours, according to my la

[DNG] ..duh, nvidia killed nouveau, was: ..console & X setup these days...

2017-10-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:33:49 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <20171028153349.7c49a0ff@d44>: > On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:05:10 +, Arnt wrote in message > <20171028110510.3e58558b@d44>: > > > Hi, > > > > ..lost power last night while asleep, laptop batteries ran down, OS > > stability proved good

[DNG] xrandr on Ascii for two displays

2017-10-28 Thread Lars Noodén
I have two displays, one built-in to a laptop and another external, and am not able to get any signal to the external one. The same arrangement works fine with other distros. I've tried with the display managers for both XFCE4 and LXQt, as well as xrandr. For example, I have tried the following,

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-28 Thread golinux
On 2017-10-27 21:34, Steve Litt wrote: Everyone: John Hughes has history here. See the following: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/mindex/d...@20151218.114434.e5e44af4.en.html And here's what I wrote after he posted his fiftieth prop-systemd or ambi-systemd on DNG in a period of a couple days. h

Re: [DNG] Clear communication (Was: Debian testing drop redis)

2017-10-28 Thread Patrick Meade
On 10/28/2017 02:06 AM, John Hughes wrote: While keeping your eyes peeled is obviously a good thing please remember the downsides of crying wolf when the wolf isn't there. Clear communication is also a good thing. Perhaps the words "[D]rops the Debian-specific support for ... in favour of usin

[DNG] Getting to know Chris Lamb

2017-10-28 Thread golinux
I was just looking at some old threads over at DUF and ran across this: https://www.debian.org/vote/2017/platforms/lamby Haven't given it a thorough reading but what I did see I found interesting . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-28 Thread zap
On 10/28/2017 03:28 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2017-10-27 21:34, Steve Litt wrote: >> >> Everyone: John Hughes has history here. See the following: >> >> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/mindex/d...@20151218.114434.e5e44af4.en.html >> >> >> And here's what I wrote after he posted his fiftieth

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-28 Thread zap
On 10/28/2017 01:00 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de): > >> I still have a mixture of irritation and amazement, that systemd is >> considered libre software yet causes so many issues and >> security/stability flaws. amazing yet terrifying... > Nothing at all prevents libre

[DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-28 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, A couple days ago I volunteered to be one of a two person team to bring a good, high quality runit package to DeVUan. The package would be capable of using runit as a simple process supervisor, or assuming all init responsibilities. I would consult the creator of runit so our package would

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-28 Thread zap
> > > I have no interest in half-way fixing Debian's broken packages, but > I'll be glad to help create an excellent DeVUan package that respects > what the software's author was trying to accomplish (but without any > new directories off the root). If the new Devuan runit package work out > as we

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I'm the originator and 2 year maintainer of the VimOutliner project. > The Debian package substituted a double backslash \\ for the double > comma ,, command prefix. When I said that the double comma was > selected for speed purposes and that doubl

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 20:24:41 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: [snip the thank-you for originating VimOutliner and noting that I'm no longer involved in the project] > > During that period, it would have been a fine and good thing (if you > felt like it) for you to produce a .deb and publish it at an > apt

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I don't know how to do the preceding, and I'm forever prioritizing > other things above learning it. Well, if you have a spare hour some time, try debhelper[1] or CheckInstall[2]. You might be surprised. (Above and below, for the sake of presen