Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]

2017-09-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 16:05:21 +0200 Edward Bartolo wrote: > So, it means, without my knowledge as a computer user, I have a HIDDEN > OPERATING SYSTEM running under my nose. It's much more than that: in the CPU and PCH chip you have 3 (THREE!) cpus derived from vintage 486 plus a few modern op

Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]

2017-09-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 11:53:46 -0400 "taii...@gmx.com" wrote: > On 09/05/2017 06:34 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 at 07:32:10 -0400 >> zap wrote: >> >>> On 09/03/2017 05:26 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: On 01/09/2017 at 20:36, zap wrote: >> I doubt it will be owner

Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]

2017-09-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 20:14:04 +0200 mdn wrote: > Hello, > To make some precisions: > -The "High Assurance Platform" belongs to a trusted platform program > linked to the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA). A graphics-rich > presentation describing the program can be found here. > http://fm.csl.

Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]

2017-09-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 12:36:59PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 11:53:46 -0400 > "taii...@gmx.com" wrote: > > > > I take it you work for purismraptor has made a legitimately owner > > controlled computer - whats stopping you? > > The steep price. Ditto. It's fa

Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]

2017-09-06 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Alessandro Selli writes: What makes you think IBM is more trustable than Intel? Who, other than IBM, produces Power8 CPUs? Are the blueprints publicly available? You're just raising the bar to the point where noone can possibly build an acceptable product. (Not just you, Alessandro, most p

Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]

2017-09-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 15:58:17 +0100 Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > Alessandro Selli writes: > > What makes you think IBM is more trustable than Intel? Who, other than > > IBM, produces Power8 CPUs? Are the blueprints publicly available? > > You're just raising the bar to the point where noone can

Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]

2017-09-06 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 09/06/2017 06:36 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: The steep price. Uhh the laptops you guys are selling now cost just as much as TALOS...only they aren't owner controlled. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bi

Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]

2017-09-06 Thread zap
On 09/06/2017 01:15 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 09/06/2017 06:36 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >>    The steep price. >> > Uhh the laptops you guys are selling now cost just as much as > TALOS...only they aren't owner controlled. > ___ Agreed! Talos

[DNG] Docker on Devuan?

2017-09-06 Thread Ozi Traveller
Just wondering whether anyone has managed to get docker installed on Devuan? If so, how? And are you getting docker updates as well? ozi ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] D-Bus and systemd

2017-09-06 Thread Haines Brown
I'm happily running Devuan Jessie with the fluxbox window manager but no desktop environment. There is an oddity that causes no problems so far, but I would like to understand it. When I boot and before logging in or starting the X server, the boot message ends with this warning: dconf-WARNING

[DNG] Security updates in Devuan

2017-09-06 Thread John Franklin
I’ve seen several security alerts from Debian, but no matching updates in Devuan. For example, the “file" package has CVE-2017-1000249, released yesterday. > For the stable distribution (stretch), this problem has been fixed in > version 1:5.30-1+deb9u1. > > For the unstable distribution (sid)

Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]

2017-09-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 06/09/2017 at 19:15, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 09/06/2017 06:36 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >>The steep price. >> > Uhh the laptops you guys are selling now cost just as much as TALOS... "you" whom? I am not a seller. > only they aren't owner controlled. That you know of. I rem