El 27/08/17 a les 20:53, John Franklin ha escrit:
> On Sat, 2017-08-26 at 16:14 +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 at 01:03:10 +0200
>> Adam Borowski wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>> I'd like to recommend another improvement: let's make the installer
>>> default
>>> to noatime for fstab it
Narcis Garcia writes:
Does anybody know some way to configure an already installed system to
mount points with noatime by default?
Edit /etc/fstab.
I'm specially interested for USB pendrives, that are automatically
mounted in a desktop environment.
USB drives generally use some sort of wind
El 28/08/17 a les 10:48, Arnt Gulbrandsen ha escrit:
> Narcis Garcia writes:
>> Does anybody know some way to configure an already installed system to
>> mount points with noatime by default?
>
> Edit /etc/fstab.
>
>> I'm specially interested for USB pendrives, that are automatically
>> mounted i
On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 at 17:18:28 -0500
d_pridge wrote:
> Doesn't this affect the expected lifetime for an SSD?
Little. AFAIK this used to be a more serious concern on the first
generation of SSDs, because they suffered strongly from write-wear and
because firmware, drivers and filesystems did
Defaults can be changed after installation. Why are some insisting
that the installer does that for them? Why must noatime be a default?
Some programs require noatime which means this will break them.
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 at 19:23:11 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:05:56AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>>
>> This idea does has some merit, but it cannot always prevent the
>> necessity to reconfigure a system's networking due to a hardware change
>> and to a sysadmin's
Narcis Garcia writes:
USB drives use filesystem as were formatted.
When they are formatted in ext4, support atime.
Indeed. I assumed you meant USB drives generally, not ones restricted to
work only with linux. Sorry.
I was asking for a method to set noatime by default. Is udev/eudev
trigger
If you want to do it it can be done, though. You can intercept the mount
system call using LD_PRELOAD and about 10 lines of C, or you can write an
/etc/fstab line for /mnt that specifies noatime and your usual USB device
(perhaps sdb1, YMMV). If you write the fstab line at least "sudo mount
/mn
El 28/08/17 a les 11:59, Alessandro Selli ha escrit:
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 at 17:18:28 -0500
> d_pridge wrote:
>
>> Doesn't this affect the expected lifetime for an SSD?
>
> Little. AFAIK this used to be a more serious concern on the first
> generation of SSDs, because they suffered strongly
El 28/08/17 a les 12:47, Arnt Gulbrandsen ha escrit:
> If you want to do it it can be done, though. You can intercept the mount
> system call using LD_PRELOAD and about 10 lines of C, or you can write
> an /etc/fstab line for /mnt that specifies noatime and your usual USB
> device (perhaps sdb1, YM
Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> Do I understand you ccorrectly: that the udev rules are flexible
>> enough to do the right thing, but they are too hard to use?
>
> Yes. On some occations I had to find out where in /sys a device had it's
> control and attribute directory (not easy at all to a newb
Narcis Garcia writes:
Perhaps there is some kernel parameter to change default behavior from boot?
I'm not looking a solution for a single installation but for hundreds of
my users.
If you use puppet or another similar way to deploy to a large set of
computers, then you can deploy a suitable u
Grub seems a lot more complicated now than it used to be a few years
ago when I last upgraded Debian from one release to another.
My usual procedure is to copy the system to new partitions (adjusting
the size according to what I actually guess I might need),
editig the copied /etc/fstab, making
XFCE 4 gives me font type/size configurability. Window Managers do not
give me that functionality expecting me to spend hours upon hours
ruining my eyes groping in configuration files for the relevant
settings.
Some people do not have the luxury of a pair of very strong eyes -
small fonts are a hu
Am 2017-08-28 18:26, schrieb Edward Bartolo:
XFCE 4 gives me font type/size configurability. Window Managers do not
give me that functionality expecting me to spend hours upon hours
ruining my eyes groping in configuration files for the relevant
settings.
Sure they do! Try Bunsenlabs Linux (htt
On 08/28/2017 10:55 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Grub seems a lot more complicated now than it used to be a few years
> ago when I last upgraded Debian from one release to another.
>
> My usual procedure is to copy the system to new partitions (adjusting
> the size according to what I actually gues
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 01:51:34PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 10:55 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Grub seems a lot more complicated now than it used to be a few years
> > ago when I last upgraded Debian from one release to another.
> >
> > My usual procedure is to copy the system to ne
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Do I understand correctly that grub-install will scan my only hard
> drive looking for (at least) bootable Linux systems? And that as a
> result, running grub-install on the old system will detect both and
> create a grub menu that contains both?
>
> (of course, using t
And the other option is to chroot and update/install grub from there (not mine,
just copied from another list) :
mkdir /sysroot
mount /dev/your-root-dev /sysroot
mount /dev/your-boot-dev /sysroot/boot
mount --bind /dev /sysroot/dev
mount --bind /sys /sysroot/sys
mount --bind /proc /sysroot/proc
m
On 28/08/17 01:03, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 06:51:24 +0100
Dave Turner wrote:
I have a working devuan ascii with no systemd no dbus no udev and no
pulseaudio on my old iMac. (no X11 either, but we'll come to that)
Very nice!
I installed eudev
Did you install eudev simply by ap
On 28/08/17 02:14, Steve Litt wrote:
Hi all,
Dave Turner mentioned ctwm in the "devuan ascii - how much of systemd is
still in there? UPDATE" thread, and because I've failed at every
attempt to use twm, I tried ctwm.
The package manager installs it like a breeze, but in the tradition of
Debian
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 18:37:00 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> Am 2017-08-28 18:26, schrieb Edward Bartolo:
> > XFCE 4 gives me font type/size configurability. Window Managers do
> > not give me that functionality expecting me to spend hours upon
> > hours ruining my eyes groping in configuration files
GRUB complicated, Nah!
If you are using an MBR formatted disk it should be quite easy to tame
down GRUB. What I do is keep it tied in a locked cage where it cannot
do any harm! Just use a dedicated partition for GRUB. In it install a
very minimal Debian or whatever Linux OS, boot it, install GRUB
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 at 12:58:24 +0200
Narcis Garcia wrote:
> El 28/08/17 a les 11:59, Alessandro Selli ha escrit:
>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 at 17:18:28 -0500
>> d_pridge wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't this affect the expected lifetime for an SSD?
>>
>> Little. AFAIK this used to be a more serious c
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 20:32:56 +0100
Dave Turner wrote:
> A nicely documented ctwmrc file is here:-
Very nice! I might investigate using ctwm as my daily driver WMDE
instead of Openbox.
>
> https://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs/laptop/ctwm/ctwmrc-lape-2014-05-13.txt
SteveT
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Am 2017-08-28 21:53, schrieb Steve Litt:
Bear in mind that with a Window Manager, you can only adjust fonts for
the windows, not the applications in side the windows. Those
applications are adjustable via the adjuster program for their library:
Qt or Gtk. So you have to run the adjuster program
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 15:53:56 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Bear in mind that with a Window Manager, you can only adjust fonts for
> the windows, not the applications in side the windows. Those
> applications are adjustable via the adjuster program for their library:
> Qt or Gtk. So you have to run th
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 07:48:22PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > Do I understand correctly that grub-install will scan my only hard
> > drive looking for (at least) bootable Linux systems? And that as a
> > result, running grub-install on the old system will detect bot
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:37:04PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Now I can't figure out how to set options so that update-grub uses
> os-prober.
You do have the os-prober package installed, yes?
Greg
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On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:56:13PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:37:04PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Now I can't figure out how to set options so that update-grub uses
> > os-prober.
>
> You do have the os-prober package installed, yes?
Yes.
root@notlookedfor:/boo
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:56:13PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:37:04PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Now I can't figure out how to set options so that update-grub uses
> > os-prober.
>
> You do have the os-prober package installed, yes?
Wait a minute. It did recog
On 08/28/2017 06:35 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:56:13PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:37:04PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Now I can't figure out how to set options so that update-grub uses
os-prober.
You do have the os-prober package installed, ye
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:50:42PM -0500, Hector Gonzalez wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 06:35 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:56:13PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >>On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:37:04PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>>Now I can't figure out how to set options so that u
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 13:51:34 -0400, fsmithred wrote in message
<83f4fdb4-aa61-965e-6ec0-9fc84f851...@gmail.com>:
> On 08/28/2017 10:55 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Grub seems a lot more complicated now than it used to be a few
> > years ago when I last upgraded Debian from one release to another.
On 08/28/2017 06:59 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:50:42PM -0500, Hector Gonzalez wrote:
On 08/28/2017 06:35 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:56:13PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:37:04PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Now I can't fig
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 08:25:19PM -0500, Hector Gonzalez wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 06:59 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:50:42PM -0500, Hector Gonzalez wrote:
> >>On 08/28/2017 06:35 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>>On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:56:13PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >>
This has been an interesting thread and has piqued my interest in
getting an SSD for my Thinkpad T410. I see that Amazon is selling the
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD for $140.00 which
seems to be about the best price on the Web. Examining its specs,
it seems as though there
On 08/28/2017 07:59 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Anyway, as I mentined in another post a few minutes ago, it does seem
> to be recognising it after all, but as a unknown Linux distro,
> failing tto notice it's Devun.
This is correct. Grub does not recognize devuan. Add a stanza for devuan
to /us
> On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> This has been an interesting thread and has piqued my interest in
> getting an SSD for my Thinkpad T410. I see that Amazon is selling the
> Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD for $140.00 which
> seems to be about the best
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