[DNG] Technical overview of init systems

2017-08-09 Thread Edward Bartolo
Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious enough to read it will get the wrong impression that Devuan is some 'amateur' distribution not worthy of wasting professional hours on it. Scientific and technical text must at all costs avoid opinionated writing but this resource

Re: [DNG] Technical overview of init systems

2017-08-09 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 08 Aug 2017, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Adam Borowski - 08.08.17, 18:57: > > On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 11:53:56AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Be careful recommending cgroups. > > > > > > I've never used them, and know little about them, but I know they were > > > one of the main excuses

Re: [DNG] Just out of curiosity, I wondered,

2017-08-09 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 08/08/17 a les 23:28, zap ha escrit: > how do you enable internet in a virtual machine with qemu? > > I wanted to try to see how effectively certain distros such as gnuinos > and vuu-do work through qemu with upgrading actually working... > > ___ > D

Re: [DNG] Technical overview of init systems

2017-08-09 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 09/08/17 a les 09:13, Edward Bartolo ha escrit: > Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious > enough to read it will get the wrong impression that Devuan is some > 'amateur' distribution not worthy of wasting professional hours on it. > Scientific and technical text mu

Re: [DNG] Just out of curiosity, I wondered,

2017-08-09 Thread Simon Hobson
Adam Borowski wrote: > My personal favourite is bridged mode, which has only an one-time setup > cost, and makes guest VMs operate exactly same as if they were physically > separate machines plugged into your ethernet switch next to the host. > As a bonus, that setup cost is shared with lxc, whic

Re: [DNG] Just out of curiosity, I wondered,

2017-08-09 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 10:13:03AM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > $ qemu-system-x86_64 -cpu host -enable-kvm -m 1024 -net > nic,model=rtl8139,vlan=0 -net user,vlan=0 -cdrom > devuan_jessie_1.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso rtl8139 is a 100Mbit card, you really don't want your virtual network speed hobbl

Re: [DNG] Just out of curiosity, I wondered,

2017-08-09 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2017-08-09 at 10:13 +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > El 08/08/17 a les 23:28, zap ha escrit: > > how do you enable internet in a virtual machine with qemu? > > > > I wanted to try to see how effectively certain distros such as gnuinos > > and vuu-do work through qemu with upgrading actually w

Re: [DNG] Just out of curiosity, I wondered,

2017-08-09 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
I prefer using a VDE setup, since that lets me run qemu as user (i.e. not root), and it's easy to link up VM's across hosts with "virtual cables" over ssh. My qemu parameters are like this: -net nic,macaddr=02:aa:bb:cc:dd:02 -net vde,sock=/tmp/vde.ctl On the host, I have a vde_switch f

[DNG] qemu networking: Was Re: Just out of curiosity, I wondered,

2017-08-09 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2017-08-09 at 22:45 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > I prefer using a VDE setup, since that lets me run qemu as user (i.e.  > not root) With -net nic -net user,hostfwd=tcp::5556-:22 you don't have to run anything as root as long as the forwarded port is higher than 1024. Additionally for a

Re: [DNG] Technical overview of init systems

2017-08-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:16:46 +0200 Narcis Garcia wrote: > El 09/08/17 a les 09:13, Edward Bartolo ha escrit: > > Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious > > enough to read it will get the wrong impression that Devuan is some > > 'amateur' distribution not worthy of was

Re: [DNG] Technical overview of init systems

2017-08-09 Thread Joel Roth
Edward, I think that any articles that interest people in exploring this part of their Linux systems can only be good. Edward Bartolo wrote: > Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious > enough to read it will get the wrong impression that Devuan is some > 'amateur' d

Re: [DNG] qemu networking: Was Re: Just out of curiosity, I wondered,

2017-08-09 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
Svante Signell wrote on 10/08/17 00:16: On Wed, 2017-08-09 at 22:45 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: I prefer using a VDE setup, since that lets me run qemu as user (i.e. not root) With -net nic -net user,hostfwd=tcp::5556-:22 you don't have to run anything as root as long as the forwarded port

Re: [DNG] Technical overview of init systems

2017-08-09 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 09/08/2017 à 22:46, Joel Roth a écrit : Edward, I think that any articles that interest people in exploring this part of their Linux systems can only be good. Edward Bartolo wrote: Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious enough to read it will get the wrong impr

Re: [DNG] Just out of curiosity, I wondered,

2017-08-09 Thread Simon Hobson
Adam Borowski wrote: > rtl8139 is a 100Mbit card, you really don't want your virtual network speed > hobbled by emulating such gear. It doesn't work like that. The nominal speed of the card is merely that of the real card being emulated - in the emulated version, there's no serial pipe to get