Re: [DNG] Sexual politics and society: [was: Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii, ]

2017-07-17 Thread Fungi4All
> From: calmst...@posteo.de >Worry not, I almost triggered something a while ago... xD >>go back far enough, st gnu church joke was made on dng and I nearly >>started one heh. no one took the bait though... thankfully. I apologise for inadvertently triggering a subthread about Дональд Трамп.

[DNG] /dev/ttyUSBn moving around after wake from suspend

2017-07-17 Thread Lars Noodén
Sorry to interrupt. I have several USB-to-serial adapters that move around when the machine wakes from suspend or hibernate. If I start with ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1, for example, after waking the names might remain but have swapped physical devices. So what was previously connected to ttyUSB0 is now

Re: [DNG] "Stretch" plans

2017-07-17 Thread Fungi4All
> From: maildoneri...@tutanota.com > To: Dng > I realize you just released Jessie Devuan -- > and I also realize how difficult the task was; > but are is there a target date for a Devuan Stretch version? The way I understand is that Debian Jessie (a comic character) matches thr Devuan Jessie (ast

[DNG] BUG 999 Qupzilla 2.1.2 in ceres will not upgrade 1.8.9 in ascii

2017-07-17 Thread Fungi4All
Qupzilla 2.1.2 exists in the ceres repository (also in Sid) as a replacement to 1.8.9 that lies in jessie and ascii. But it is prevented to install as it would cause breakage. I can't figure out why or which dependency conflicts. Just letting you know. In Arch/Manjaro Qupzilla 2 has been in stabl

[DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello everyone, I have just subscribed recently. Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev replacement status? I found there was vdev project but it looks abandoned (?) Is there any other? -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.

Re: [DNG] /dev/ttyUSBn moving around after wake from suspend

2017-07-17 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:44:35 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > I have several USB-to-serial adapters that move around when the > machine wakes from suspend or hibernate. > > If I start with ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1, for example, after waking the > names might remain but have swapped physical devices. So w

Re: [DNG] "Stretch" plans

2017-07-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 04:50:15AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > > From: maildoneri...@tutanota.com > > To: Dng > > I realize you just released Jessie Devuan -- > > and I also realize how difficult the task was; > > but are is there a target date for a Devuan Stretch version? > > The way I understand

Re: [DNG] BUG 999 Qupzilla 2.1.2 in ceres will not upgrade 1.8.9 in ascii

2017-07-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 05:03:27AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > Qupzilla 2.1.2 exists in the ceres repository (also in Sid) as a replacement > to 1.8.9 that lies in jessie and ascii. > But it is prevented to install as it would cause breakage. I can't figure out > why or which dependency conflicts.

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message : > Hello everyone, > > I have just subscribed recently. > Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev replacement > status? I found there was vdev project but it looks abandoned (?) > Is there any other? > ..I'm on experim

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hi, thanks for response. Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not finding both in any of devuan repos. On 17 July 2017 at 17:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message > : > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I have just subscribed r

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 05:46:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for response. > Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not finding > both in any of devuan repos. > Hi, both vdev abd eudev are in experimental: deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) On 17 July 2017 at 17:53, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 05:46:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > thanks for response. > > Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not finding > > both in any of devua

Re: [DNG] /dev/ttyUSBn moving around after wake from suspend

2017-07-17 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/17/2017 12:22 PM, Florian Zieboll wrote: [snip] > http://hintshop.ludvig.co.nz/show/persistent-names-usb-serial-devices/ Thanks. Yes, it seems I have udev. The link is helpful, I think it probably would solve the problem. However, these specific cables lack a reportable serial number ...

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 06:02:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) > Ok, be careful though, since stuff in experimental can be broken and break other things, so you are warned :) HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freak

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:46:26 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message : > On 17 July 2017 at 17:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message > > : > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > I have just subscribed recently. > > > Could someone please enlighten me

Re: [DNG] /dev/ttyUSBn moving around after wake from suspend

2017-07-17 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2017 17 Jul 05:15 -0500, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 07/17/2017 12:22 PM, Florian Zieboll wrote: > [snip] > > http://hintshop.ludvig.co.nz/show/persistent-names-usb-serial-devices/ > > Thanks. Yes, it seems I have udev. The link is helpful, I think it > probably would solve the problem. Howeve

Re: [DNG] BUG 999 Qupzilla 2.1.2 in ceres will not upgrade 1.8.9 in ascii

2017-07-17 Thread Fungi4All
> From: kato...@freaknet.org > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 05:03:27AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: >> Qupzilla 2.1.2 exists in the ceres repository (also in Sid) as a replacement >> to 1.8.9 that lies in jessie and ascii. >> But it is prevented to install as it would cause breakage

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:37:00PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..add these "experimental" lines, and re-try 'apt-get update': > root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > ... > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/dev

Re: [DNG] /dev/ttyUSBn moving around after wake from suspend

2017-07-17 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Mon, 17 Jul 2017, Lars Noodén wrote: ... these specific cables lack a reportable serial number ... ... Jul 10 04:09:09 me kernel: [6.545480] usb 1-1.1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303 Jul 10 04:09:09 me kernel: [6.545481] usb 1-1.1.3: New USB device s

Re: [DNG] "Stretch" plans

2017-07-17 Thread Fungi4All
> From: kato...@freaknet.org > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 04:50:15AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: >> > From: maildoneri...@tutanota.com >> > To: Dng >> > I realize you just released Jessie Devuan -- >> > and I also realize how difficult the task was; >> > but are is there a target

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" To: "Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:46:26 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message : On 17 July 2017 at 17:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:

Re: [DNG] "Stretch" plans

2017-07-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:24:19AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > - Devuan Jessie is the current stable and merges Debian Jessie > - Devuan Ascii will be the next stable and merged Debian Stretch > - Devuan Beowulf will be the next testing, and will follow Ascii You do realize issues when talking about t

Re: [DNG] "Stretch" plans

2017-07-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 17 July 2017 at 15:13:54, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:24:19AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > - Devuan Jessie is the current stable and merges Debian Jessie > > - Devuan Ascii will be the next stable and merged Debian Stretch > > - Devuan Beowulf will be the next testing,

Re: [DNG] "Stretch" plans

2017-07-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 04:13:54PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:24:19AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > - Devuan Jessie is the current stable and merges Debian Jessie > > - Devuan Ascii will be the next stable and merged Debian Stretch > > - Devuan Beowulf will be the next tes

Re: [DNG] "Stretch" plans

2017-07-17 Thread marc
> > > - Devuan Beowulf will be the next testing, and will follow Ascii > > > > You do realize issues when talking about this on Slashdot, naked and > > petrified? > > I am evidently missing something, but I can't see what. That particular release might be deemed particularly suitable for cluste

Re: [DNG] Really? This is it?

2017-07-17 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > There's no excuse for this embarrassing lapse of judgment. But > trying to moderate would have made it much worse. Perhaps my > suggestion earlier today was just too subtle for those bent on > having the last word. Fortunately his doesn't happen of

Re: [DNG] "Stretch" plans

2017-07-17 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 09:23:34PM +0200, marc wrote: > > > > - Devuan Beowulf will be the next testing, and will follow Ascii > > > > > > You do realize issues when talking about this on Slashdot, naked and > > > petrified? > > > > I am evidently missing something, but I can't see what. > > Tha

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:19:18 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 06:02:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > > Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) > > > > Ok, be careful though, since stuff in experimental can be broken and > break other things, so you are warned :) 1:

Re: [DNG] "Stretch" plans

2017-07-17 Thread marcxdv
> > > > > - Devuan Beowulf will be the next testing, and will follow Ascii > > > > > > > > You do realize issues when talking about this on Slashdot, naked and > > > > petrified? > > > > > > I am evidently missing something, but I can't see what. > > > > That particular release might be deemed p

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread golinux
On 2017-07-17 15:10, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:19:18 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 06:02:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) > Ok, be careful though, since stuff in experimental can be broken and break other thing

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:08:02 -0400, Ismael wrote in message : > - Original Message - > From: "Arnt Karlsen" > To: "Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:37 AM > Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:46:26 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in mes

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 04:10:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > 1: Is there a way I can install vdev and only vdev from experimental? >How? Nothing ever gets installed from experimental unless you explicitly say so. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ A dumb species has no way to open a tuna can. ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ A sm

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:08:22 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message <3077089df6720e694d19fe6a8b807...@dyne.org>: > On 2017-07-17 15:10, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:19:18 +0100 > > KatolaZ wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 06:02:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky > >> wrot

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 23:41:05 +0200, Adam wrote in message <20170717214105.wdl77u6byfgtn...@angband.pl>: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 04:10:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > 1: Is there a way I can install vdev and only vdev from > > experimental? How? > > Nothing ever gets installed from experiment

[DNG] A little acknowlegement from TheRegister

2017-07-17 Thread Simon Hobson
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/17/linux_4_13_rc1/ After mention of the "can't trust init" message, they finish off with : > Yup – that's systemd as in the code so hated by “veteran Unix sysadmins” that > they forked Debian and created Devuan Linux to avoid having to use it. Those > two bu

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Fungi4All
New release of the Manjaro OpenRC Xfce ISO. As a reference this is from my second most favorite distro and it is current/recent. I believe up until 16.*** the transition from systemd to openrc was viable and documented. Since then most efforts result in breaking everything, so they have managed to

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
Steve Litt wrote on 18/07/17 06:10: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:19:18 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 06:02:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) Ok, be careful though, since stuff in experimental can be broken and break other things,

Re: [DNG] "Stretch" plans

2017-07-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:17:18PM +0200, marc...@welz.org.za wrote: [cut] > > > > I presume you mean the release name, not the release. Calling out next > > testing release "beowulf" might be confusing. That might be better name > > for *any* Devuan thats designed to make a cluster. So wed

[DNG] VBScript Injection via GNOME Thumbnailer

2017-07-17 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Another nice bug in Gnome: http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/posts/gnome-thumbnailer-msi-fail.html Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Sexual politics and society: [was: Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii, ]

2017-07-17 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017, Antony Stone wrote: > 1. What does this have to do with Devuan? perhaps just one thing, that the first image this project ever released was a Valentine present, with attached a love declaration, between two men. it may be defined a platonic dev relationship, but definitely ma