On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 at 00:24:59 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 30/06/2017 à 23:30, Vincent Bentley a écrit :
> > Along time ago, well designed and well behaved software could be
> > recognised by the number of years passed without changes. I worked at
> > one place that was proud of release version
On Fri, 2017-06-30 at 20:12 -0400, zap wrote:
> It is a little too confusing trying to install openrc at the moment
> so I
> will pass for now...
>
> It is just a shame that the runit-init package was taken down...
The instructions are crystal clear...
(And btw: Daniel Reurich is working hard to
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
>
> on devuan jessie (in chroot) chromium crashes immediately:
chromium uses seccomp sandboxing internally which may fail to run
inside a chroot. I run chromium regularly on jessie, also inside
firejail (using https://gi
On 30/06/17 08:56, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> It's driven by Red Hat to make money out of supporting their
> development.
>
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On June 30, 2017 1:14:24 AM CDT, Nate Bargmann wrote:
::* On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote:
::
::> Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an
::init
::> system?
::
::The same thing that a time sync (NTP) daemon is doing in there...
::
::- Nate
::
::--
It makes more sense when you consider that systemd is a thinly veiled excuse
for an init daemon which really wants to replace every distro out there with
something red hat has more control over.
On July 1, 2017 8:25:56 AM CDT, vmlinux wrote:
::
::
::On June 30, 2017 1:14:24 AM CDT, Nate Bargma
Le 01/07/2017 à 10:20, Alessandro Selli a écrit :
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 at 00:24:59 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 30/06/2017 à 23:30, Vincent Bentley a écrit :
Along time ago, well designed and well behaved software could be
recognised by the number of years passed without changes. I worked at
one
* On 2017 01 Jul 08:49 -0500, vmlinux wrote:
> It makes more sense when you consider that systemd is a thinly veiled
> excuse for an init daemon which really wants to replace every distro
> out there with something red hat has more control over.
Certainly, that trend has been well established. W
Hi all,
I want to install a brand new, Devuan stable Qemu guest, so I have some
questions:
1) What's the name of the current stable version?
2) At what URL can I download the latest network install ISO file for
that version?
3) Are there any landmines when installing from this ISO file?
4)
On 07/01/2017 12:17 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I want to install a brand new, Devuan stable Qemu guest, so I have some
> questions:
>
> 1) What's the name of the current stable version?
jessie
> 2) At what URL can I download the latest network install ISO file for
>that version?
f
On Saturday 01 July 2017 at 18:17:44, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I want to install a brand new, Devuan stable Qemu guest, so I have some
> questions:
>
> 1) What's the name of the current stable version?
https://devuan.org/ - current stable is “Jessie”
> 2) At what URL can I download the
On Saturday 01 July 2017 at 18:29:11, fsmithred wrote:
> On 07/01/2017 12:17 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I want to install a brand new, Devuan stable Qemu guest, so I have some
> > questions:
> >
> > 1) What's the name of the current stable version?
>
> jessie
>
> > 2) At what UR
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:25:20 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> fate accompli
"Fate"
is very apposite in the circumstance
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is a typically Hohenzollern idea to believe that it is a crime
for a country to defend itself after its army has been destroyed.
Quoting Nate Bargmann (n...@n0nb.us):
> I'll admit, there was one trick that SD did that I liked, and that was
> starting CUPS only when there was a call to print. I don't print often
> so bringing up CUPS on demand and then shutting it down later was nice.
> But then, SD was running all the time
On 07/01/17 09:37, Jaromil wrote:
chromium uses seccomp sandboxing internally which may fail to run
inside a chroot. I run chromium regularly on jessie, also inside
firejail (using https://github.com/dyne/tinfoil) so can confirm that
at least outside of a chroot it works well.
Meanwhile found
On 07/01/17 15:25, Nate Bargmann wrote:
Certainly, that trend has been well established. What is troubling are
all of the other distributions who treat it as fate accompli. My hope
is that Devuan, Slackware, and other distributions that have staked out
a position that seeks to maintain the tra
On 07/01/17 14:43, Didier Kryn wrote:
> They preserve the external API but change all the rest.
Yes, that's the way we support zillions of different devices,
especially in the embedded world, w/ relatively small efforts
(OF was probably one of the most important steps) and still offer
good perfo
On 170630-13:16-0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:20:08 +
> Miroslav Rovis wrote:
>
> > On 170629-19:34-0400, zap wrote:
> > > not really complaining for the most part. But I am curious that's
> > > all.
> > I wish I knew better, but, for a simple question of mine today (see
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 at 16:50:28 -0700
Bruce Perens wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult <
> enrico.weig...@gr13.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> By selling, I mean, you'll first have to pay before you get the code.
>> But anybody republish it at will (as long as complying
"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote:
> At that point I'm curious which fancy features of systemd are needed
> by applications at all ?
In general - none !
But, it seems that the technique being used by it's proponents is to substitute
their stuff and "force" new APIs on developers. Ie, pic
Le 01/07/2017 à 18:46, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit :
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:25:20 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
fate accompli
"Fate"
is very apposite in the circumstance
Cheers,
Ron.
"Fait accompli" means "accomplished fact", something it's a
nonsense to oppose to, because it's do
I updated a 32-bit Devuan Jessie system today (Saturday) to Ascii. After
rebooting I needed to fix a few package dependency problems and I got
the following message when using aptitude to update.
sudo aptitude -y update
Get: 1 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii InRelease [113 kB]
Err http://
Le 01/07/2017 à 22:09, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit :
On 07/01/17 14:43, Didier Kryn wrote:
> They preserve the external API but change all the rest.
Yes, that's the way we support zillions of different devices,
especially in the embedded world, w/ relatively small efforts
(OF was p
It is the fact that the two actions are connected that makes it a breach.
There are very many actions that are legal in isolation, but not when one
is carried out as a consequence of another. The most common instances are
of course in anti-discrimination law.
As an expert witness, I would have no
On 07/01/2017 04:20 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 at 00:24:59 +0200
> Didier Kryn wrote:
>
>> Le 30/06/2017 à 23:30, Vincent Bentley a écrit :
>>> Along time ago, well designed and well behaved software could be
>>> recognised by the number of years passed without changes. I w
On 07/01/2017 05:32 AM, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-06-30 at 20:12 -0400, zap wrote:
>> It is a little too confusing trying to install openrc at the moment
>> so I
>> will pass for now...
>>
>> It is just a shame that the runit-init package was taken down...
> The instructions are crysta
* On 2017 01 Jul 11:47 -0500, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:25:20 -0500
> Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> > fate accompli
>
> "Fate"
> is very apposite in the circumstance
One misspell and a person's reputation is shot forever!
:-)
- Nate
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live i
Hi all,
I'm writing a document on how to install runit on Devuan, with the hope
that some day it will lead to a Devuan package that makes sense and to
the best degree possible implements the goals of the software's author.
Most of it's pretty straightforward, but the runit install scripts
(packag
On 06/30/2017 04:21 PM, zap wrote:
>
> On 06/30/2017 11:21 AM, Svante Signell wrote:
>> On Thu, 2017-06-29 at 19:34 -0400, zap wrote:
>>> not really complaining for the most part. But I am curious that's
>>> all.
>>>
>> Hi zap,
>>
>> As I wrote earlier, you can install openrc by:
>> 0) Enable asc
Le 02/07/2017 à 01:37, Steve Litt a écrit :
Hi all,
I'm writing a document on how to install runit on Devuan, with the hope
that some day it will lead to a Devuan package that makes sense and to
the best degree possible implements the goals of the software's author.
Most of it's pretty straight
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