On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:18:21AM +1000, Tom wrote:
>
> I did the upgrade to Ascii yesterday before I sent the email after reading
> about the dbus
> package updates, so yes the dist-upgrade works but ends up with the large
> number of
> packages set for removal. Apologies for not mentioning tha
Hi there,
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Taiidan@ wrote:
When trying to run apt-get update with https I receive this error
curl: (1) Protocol "http" not supported or disabled in libcurl
https://curl.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#Protocol_xxx_not_supported_or_di
Is there some compelling reason to want apt-get
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 09:00:23AM +0100, G.W. Haywood wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Taiidan@ wrote:
>
> >When trying to run apt-get update with https I receive this error
> >
> >curl: (1) Protocol "http" not supported or disabled in libcurl
>
> https://curl.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#P
Tom was asking about versions of packages, and I think some others.
'
I use the list that was provided to distrowatch.com !!
It can be downloaded as a text file and then 'searched' in your editor.
'
I wouldn't be surprised if the ASCII list was outdated - and that may be
what Tom is looking for.
'
On 16 June 2017 at 17:22, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> Which are those packages set for removal? Are packages marked as
> "unnecessary" because where automatically installed by previous
> versions of other packages and are not required any more?
>
I'm guessing you could be right on that. Not entirely su
Interesting. Do you know how often it gets updated? Is it on an automatic
schedule?
-- Tom
On 16 June 2017 at 22:07, Gary Olzeke wrote:
> Tom was asking about versions of packages, and I think some others.
> '
> I use the list that was provided to distrowatch.com !!
> It can be downloaded as
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:54:53AM +1000, Tom wrote:
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>
> I'm guessing you could be right on that. Not entirely sure how I would
> check that. I'm not sure if any of the below packages are required for xfce
> to operate correctly or not. I could probably just take a punt and remove
> them
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:55:57AM +1000, Tom wrote:
> Interesting. Do you know how often it gets updated? Is it on an automatic
> schedule?
>
The list of all available packages in the repos you have in
/etc/apt/sources.list can be found in /var/lib/apt/lists. To visualise
that list (without ve
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how does one remove that package without removing anything else?
I mean how do you remove it from being depended on by nearly every bit
of software...
I want to install openrc so that is why I ask...
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Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
> how does one remove that package without removing anything else?
>
> I mean how do you remove it from being depended on by nearly every bit
> of software...
>
> I want to install openrc so that is why I ask...
The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, do
On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote:
The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from
installing and using OpenRC.
The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not able to function
without systemd.
Dragan
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On 16-06-17 23:53, Dragan FOSS wrote:
On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote:
The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from
installing and using OpenRC.
The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not able to function
without systemd.
Dragan
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Actually, I would be quite happy to have systemd on my Devuan system, as
long as it wasn't acting as the init. Think of it as a virtual paperweight.
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017, 14:53 Dragan FOSS wrote:
> On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't
On 17.06.2017. 00:29, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
fresh troll on our list.
Wrong..I'm an old troll :)
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[dragan@trios-eudev][~/Desktop]$ uname -a
Linux trios-eudev 4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.18-1~bpo8+1
(2017-04-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux
[dragan@trios-eudev][~/Desk
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 05:27:30PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:55:57AM +1000, Tom wrote:
> > Interesting. Do you know how often it gets updated? Is it on an automatic
> > schedule?
> >
>
> The list of all available packages in the repos you have in
> /etc/apt/sources.list
On 2017-06-16 17:29, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
On 16-06-17 23:53, Dragan FOSS wrote:
On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote:
The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you
from
installing and using OpenRC.
The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:53:13PM +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote:
> On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> >The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from
> >installing and using OpenRC.
>
>
> The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not able to function
> without
But it has the name libsystemd0! It should be called The Init Library That
Must Not Be Named. :-)
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017, 15:53 Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:53:13PM +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote:
> > On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote:
> >
> > >The presence of libsystemd0, albeit
On 17.06.2017. 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I'm often iterested in the packages that are in the repos I have *not* specified
in sources.list
Maybe rmadison (devscripts) would help you?
For example:
-
[dragan@trios-eudev][~/Desktop]$ rmadison -u ubuntu -a amd64 libsystemd0
libsystemd0 |
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:57:52PM +, Bruce Perens wrote:
> But it has the name libsystemd0! It should be called The Init Library That
> Must Not Be Named. :-)
I think that one fails the syntax test on package names. I don't think spaces
are
allowed.
In any case, libsystemd0 is not an init
On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 23:53 +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote:
> On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you
> > from
> > installing and using OpenRC.
>
>
> The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not able to
> function
> withou
On 17.06.2017. 00:53, Hendrik Boom wrote:
libsystemd0 provides the interfaces of systemd for those pieces of software that
require them, but provides the empty implementations; i.e., informing the caller
that the requested acton is not available.
It is completely compatible with not having syste
I don't see any problem with a generic interface to the things that
libsystemd does , if one could be arrived at, or if the current API is
sufficiently generic.
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017, 17:34 Dragan FOSS wrote:
> On 17.06.2017. 00:53, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > libsystemd0 provides the interfaces of s
On 06/16/2017 05:22 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
>
>> how does one remove that package without removing anything else?
>>
>> I mean how do you remove it from being depended on by nearly every bit
>> of software...
>>
>> I want to install openrc so that is why I ask...
On 17.06.2017. 02:39, Bruce Perens wrote:
I don't see any problem with a generic interface to the things that
libsystemd does , if one could be arrived at, or if the current API is
sufficiently generic.
I don't see any purpose that *any* package has a libsystemd dependency
in distribution wit
whoops may have sent this directly
Anyways I am using devuan ascii and for some reason such an error does
exist. I don't know why though... I want openrc though instead and it
doesn't seem to let me install it without wiping most of my software off.
On 06/16/2017 09:02 PM, Dragan FOSS wrot
Thanks Dragan for the nudge, - you old troll!!
It seems your TRIOS is still only in Serbian (your comment).
Site is located at mirror.org.rs but the FOSS Serbia link is unuseable -
for me.
and XFCE is Devuan's initial Desktop too!
'
has gmx.com been good to you???
Good Day,
Garyz
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 08:55:44PM -0400, zap wrote:
>
>
> On 06/16/2017 05:22 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
> >
> >> how does one remove that package without removing anything else?
> >>
> >> I mean how do you remove it from being depended on by nearly every bit
> >
On 17.06.2017. 03:09, Gary Olzeke wrote:
and XFCE is Devuan's initial Desktop too!
Hm? Currently, I'm using GNOME 3 ;>
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[dragan@trios-eudev][~]$ inxi -S
System:Host: trios-eudev Kernel: 4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
Desktop: Gnome 3.14.4
Distro: TRIOS 1.0 mia
Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
> Anyways I am using devuan ascii and for some reason such an error does
> exist. I don't know why though... I want openrc though instead and it
> doesn't seem to let me install it without wiping most of my software off.
Might help:
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/De
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017, 6:02 PM Dragan FOSS wrote:
> On 17.06.2017. 02:39, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > I don't see any problem with a generic interface to the things that
> > libsystemd does , if one could be arrived at, or if the current API is
> > sufficiently generic.
>
>
> I don't see any purpose t
On 17 June 2017 at 02:15, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:54:53AM +1000, Tom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> apt-get is telling you what is the problem (there are several packages
> which were automatically installed and are no longer required, mostly
> due to the dist-upgrade), and
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 06:46:28PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
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>
> I'm often iterested in the packages that are in the repos I have *not*
> specified
> in sources.list
>
I told already that we are working at a web interface similar to
packages.debian.org. Keeping asking doesn't help hav
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 08:55:44PM -0400, zap wrote:
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>
> depends, for me I cannot install openrc without losing literately one
> hundred or more packages!
>
> for the record, I was not... troling... I am completely serious._
zap, how are you installing OpenRC on Devuan? Which packages ar
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 03:02:01AM +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote:
> On 17.06.2017. 02:39, Bruce Perens wrote:
> >I don't see any problem with a generic interface to the things that
> >libsystemd does , if one could be arrived at, or if the current API is
> >sufficiently generic.
>
>
> I don't see any
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 09:17:46PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from
> > > installing and using OpenRC.
> > >
> >
> > depends, for me I cannot install openrc without losing literately one
> > hundred or more packages!
> >
> >
Firefox ESR in ascii seems to have problems showing the scrollbar thumb and
checkbox/radio/text input outlines. I've found relevant bug reports on
Firefox bugzilla, but they appear to have been fixed in Firefox 48/49.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230955
https://bugzilla.mozilla.o
On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 18:44 -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
>
> > Anyways I am using devuan ascii and for some reason such an error
> > does
> > exist. I don't know why though... I want openrc though instead and
> > it
> > doesn't seem to let me install it without wip
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