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Am Mi den 12. Apr 2017 um 16:58 schrieb Steve Litt:
> I have no knowledge of the origin of this thread, probably having to do
> with my .procmailrc /dev/nulling certain people. But I have a very
> clear message about this thread's subject: There's no
Le 13/04/2017 07:03, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 22:32:32 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 08:13:46PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
On 04/12/2017 11:58 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
[...]
Systemd actively sabotages the ability to replace it, whereas no
other inits do that
Hi KatolaZ,
... and sorry for my delay...
On 04/11/2017 02:00 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
Thanks aitor. It would be great to have vdev in ascii, innit?
Yes, it should be added in asci/ceres, not in jessie.
Do you think it might be possible to try building the vdev package through
the Devuan CI syst
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 22:32:32 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Well, the official policy, insofar as there is one, appears to be that
> Devuan is about choice. Therefore, it should make available (1) the
> choice to do without systemd and (2) the choice to use systemd.
The choice exists already: th
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 at 14:18:34 -0700 Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
>
>> As sudo can be made to operate either requiring the user to type his
>> own password or no password, stating (now) that just "a particular usage
>> model" of sudo constiutes a pro
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 05:32:05 -0400, Renaud wrote in message
<20170413053205.3a7e6...@ron.cerrocora.org>:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 22:32:32 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > Well, the official policy, insofar as there is one, appears to be
> > that Devuan is about choice. Therefore, it should make
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:04:57 +0200
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > Well, the official policy, insofar as there is one, appears to be
> > > that Devuan is about choice. Therefore, it should make available
> > > (1) the choice to do without systemd and (2) the choice to use
> > > systemd.
> >
> > The
Quoting Alessandro Selli :
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 at 14:18:34 -0700 Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
As sudo can be made to operate either requiring the user to type his
own password or no password, stating (now) that just "a particular usage
model" of s
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
> This is what can be logically inferred from what you wrote.
No.
I'm sorry this conversation was not fruitful, which as mentioned is why I have
disengaged. Have a great day.
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On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:57:09AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
...
...
>
> Systemd is not an init system; it is an operating system. Devuan runs a
> Gnu/Linux OS which is not Systemd. Even if the two are using almost the same
> kernel, they aren't the same OS. The most typical effect of this is
On 2017-04-13 11:44, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:57:09AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
...
...
Systemd is not an init system; it is an operating system. Devuan
runs a
Gnu/Linux OS which is not Systemd. Even if the two are using almost
the same
kernel, they aren't the same O
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:49:53 -0400, Renaud wrote in message
<20170413094953.0b06f...@ron.cerrocora.org>:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:04:57 +0200
> Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> > > > Well, the official policy, insofar as there is one, appears to
> > > > be that Devuan is about choice. Therefore, it sho
Il 13/04/2017 16:55, Rick Moen ha scritto:
> Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
>
>> This is what can be logically inferred from what you wrote.
> No.
Yep.
> I'm sorry this conversation was not fruitful, which as mentioned is why I have
> disengaged. Have a great day.
O
Hi folks,
(xposting to cairo, debian maintainers and devuan list)
I'm currently packaging recent cairo (w/ drm patches) for several deb
Distros, and ran into trouble w/ missing Makefile.am.features files.
Debian just adds these files directly (along w/ other stuff, eg. some
prebuit docs - unfor
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 18:26:47 +0200
Jaromil wrote:
> let me just add that - as we will be out with the release candidate
> and the stable release very soon now - we count on all of you here to
> show maturity and not feed the trolls who will be coming attracted by
> Devuan's growing success and po
On 15.03.2017 21:46, R. W. Rodolico wrote:
I haven't quit Debian and Ubuntu completely yet, as I still have to
maintain existing machines. But new ones certainly get Devuan.
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On 15.03.2017 18:52, Steve Litt wrote:
> Protesting against majorities at their home sometimes brings useful
> things to a minority, and if such protests go on often enough and long
> enough, they usually do.
Actually, it's one minority protesting against another one, in front
of the majority.
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On 15.03.2017 14:20, Patrick Meade wrote:
> Those users just need to know where to go. A simple informative post (a
> sign post) to the thread will accomplish that.
+1
That could be repeated whenever some systemd-related problem comes up.
And devuan releases could be announced there, too.
--m
On 16.03.2017 11:20, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> «Got agetty to compile with systemd. Seems like systemd puts deamons
> in the /sbin/ folder. However most openwrt utilities (util-linux)
> installs them to /usr/sbin. Manually setting agetty to /sbin yields a
> working console
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