Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Joachim, On 04/10/2017 01:04 AM, Joachim Fahrner wrote: Hi, how can I get rid of libsystemd0? gvfs depends on it, and without gvfs PCmanFM does not mount external usb drives. Is there a way to user mount external drives without gvfs? Jochen I removed the dependency on *libsystemd0*: https

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 01:19:00PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: [cut] > > I still don't know the reason for using the 1.26.2 upstream version of gvfs > in devuan. The version in debian jessie is 1.22.2, and we *should* mantain > the same one in devuan, which is that i used. I talked about this months

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread aitor_czr
Hi KatolaZ, On 04/10/2017 01:37 PM, KatolaZ wrote: On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 01:19:00PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: [cut] I still don't know the reason for using the 1.26.2 upstream version of gvfs in devuan. The version in debian jessie is 1.22.2, and we*should* mantain the same one in devuan, w

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 03:27:22PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > > and udisks works without udev and libsystemd0... thanks to vdev :) What is the status of vdev? Is it packages and inthe repositories yet? Is it too much to hope it;s available in jessie? -- hendrik ___

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 04/10/2017 01:19 PM, aitor_czr wrote: I removed the dependency on *libsystemd0*: gvfs (1.22.2-1.0nosystemd1) nosystemd; urgency=medium * Non-maintainer upload. * Cure systemd infestation. -- Adam Borowski Mon, 01 Dec 2014 07:28:04 +0100 http://angband.pl/debian/pool/main/g/

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il 10/04/2017 02:25, Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > >> I think I know why, but I'll ask you anyway. Why don't you just put >> mount in /etc/sudoers and make it not require a password? > IMO, mounting / umounting is a sensitive operation (which is why Unix

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:09:44PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: [cut] > > You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. > Using root password many times, every day, is bad for security (the more > times you type it the higher the chances are it will be captured) and

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. > Using root password many times, every day, is bad for security (the more > times you type it the higher the chances are it will be captured) and it > instills the desi

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 10/04/2017 at 23:43, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. >> Using root password many times, every day, is bad for security (the more >> times you type it the higher the chances are

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > IMO, using root's password in those same cases is the worst possible > password use case. One thing is your non-privileged user's password > being captured when you mount an external drive, a different thing is > giving away root's passwor

[DNG] For current and future Devuan package maintainers: d1h is out!

2017-04-10 Thread KatolaZ
Hi all, just to let you know that d1h (a helper to simplify operations in the Devuan package maintenance workflow) is now available in experimental. The aim of d1h is to make Devuan package maintenance as easy as it can get, by hiding most of the unnecessary details and providing a simple (CLI) in

[DNG] For current and future Devuan package maintainers: d1h is out!

2017-04-10 Thread KatolaZ
Hi all, just to let you know that d1h (a helper to simplify operations in the Devuan package maintenance workflow) is now available in experimental. The aim of d1h is to make Devuan package maintenance as easy as it can get, by hiding most of the unnecessary details and providing a simple (CLI) in

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Dragan, On 04/11/2017 12:17 AM, Dragan FOSS wrote: On 04/10/2017 01:19 PM, aitor_czr wrote: I removed the dependency on *libsystemd0*: gvfs (1.22.2-1.0nosystemd1) nosystemd; urgency=medium * Non-maintainer upload. * Cure systemd infestation. -- Adam Borowski Mon, 01

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread marc
> You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. > Using root password many times, every day, is bad for security (the more > times you type it the higher the chances are it will be captured) and it > instills the desire of an easy to remember and fast to type password.

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:28 PM, marc wrote: > > You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. > > Using root password many times, every day, is bad for security (the more > > times you type it the higher the chances are it will be captured) and it > > instills the desi

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-10 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Mo den 10. Apr 2017 um 22:09 schrieb Alessandro Selli: > You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. > Using root password many times, every day, is bad for security (the more > times you type it the higher the chances