Re: [DNG] Systemd-Illness in procps.

2016-12-05 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
On 5 December 2016 at 08:50, Joel Roth wrote: > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > If there is no technical reason for it, is it spite? > > The natural tendency to grasp for a piece of technical > candy, trying to play nicely with others who are all > using it, to name two other > possible reasons. > > > >

Re: [DNG] Systemd-Illness in procps.

2016-12-05 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Mo den 5. Dez 2016 um 9:01 schrieb Aldemir Akpinar: > Seems like it's been infected about 1.5 years ago. > > https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/procps.git/commit/?id=e24f0f994ad3279eb387bea8cda907d4e6f61926 Might be. I just seen

[DNG] Recommended location for iptables rules

2016-12-05 Thread Lars Noodén
Where should we be commending the storage of iptables rules in Devuan Jessie? I notice that iptables-apply looks for rules in /etc/network/iptables.up.rules while iptables-persist looks for rules in /etc/iptables/rules.v4 instead. The former utility is installed by default as part of the iptables

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

2016-12-05 Thread fsmithred
On 12/04/2016 10:26 PM, Robert Storey wrote: > I wrote: > >> Refracta saved the day! Thank goodness it exists, or else I would >> not be able to install Devuan on any of my machines. Please note >> that with Refracta, I did not need to set up networking at all >> during the installation, but Wicd

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Beta2 Live [Beta2 not Beta]

2016-12-05 Thread fsmithred
On 12/03/2016 06:21 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2016-12-03 16:32, fsmithred wrote: >> ...and here is the entire link: >> >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/unofficial_devuan_live/ >> >> Sorry about that! >> >> -fsr >> >> ___ > Actuall

[DNG] Upgrading Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie

2016-12-05 Thread info at smallinnovations.nl
As preparation for the coming Beta2 and RC I did a dry run on a virtual machine from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie (beta) with the instructions from dev1fanboy. It worked flawlessy with one minor point: apt-get purge systemd-shim libsystemd0 gave an error message from dpkg for systemd. But aft

[DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

2016-12-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 09:05:11 +0800 Robert Storey wrote: > It pains me to say this, but the installation program for Devuan > Beta2 is seriously broken. And I say this not as some kind of troll, > but rather as a Devuan enthusiast who has already been running Devuan > as my main system for six mont

Re: [DNG] Recommended location for iptables rules

2016-12-05 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 06:50:15PM +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: > Where should we be commending the storage of iptables rules in Devuan > Jessie? While this doesn't exactly answer your question, I simply have a script in /usr/local/etc called firewall.sh which runs all the iptables rules that I want

Re: [DNG] Recommended location for iptables rules

2016-12-05 Thread dev
On 12/05/2016 10:50 AM, Lars Noodén wrote: Because iptables-apply is there by default, I'm leaning a bit towards recommending /etc/network/iptables.up.rules as the location over /etc/iptables/rules.v4 Do you still need to consider some users may need ip6tables rules also? Perhaps /etc/ipta

Re: [DNG] Recommended location for iptables rules

2016-12-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 12/05/2016 09:59 PM, dev wrote: > > > On 12/05/2016 10:50 AM, Lars Noodén wrote: >> Because iptables-apply is there by default, I'm leaning a bit >> towards recommending /etc/network/iptables.up.rules as the >> location over /etc/iptables/rules.v4 > > > Do you still need to consider some us

Re: [DNG] Recommended location for iptables rules

2016-12-05 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 10:09:38PM +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: [cut] > > What do you see as the advantage? I'm interested in hearing the > rational for either /etc/iptables/ or /etc/network/ since iptables-apply > and iptables-persistent are conflicting and unlikely to be resolved > upstream in t

Re: [DNG] Recommended location for iptables rules

2016-12-05 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 06/12/16 05:50, Lars Noodén wrote: > Where should we be commending the storage of iptables rules in Devuan > Jessie? There should not be a default location. It should be left to each firewall application to define. This is particularly important as iptables has a competitor in nftables and li

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Beta Live

2016-12-05 Thread fsmithred
On 12/03/2016 05:32 PM, fsmithred wrote: > ...and here is the entire link: > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/unofficial_devuan_live/ > > Sorry about that! > > -fsr > I had to replace the amd64 iso. If you downloaded the one dated 20161203_0200 (in the file name) throw it away