Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-16 Thread aitor_czr
Sorry fsmithred, On 08/15/2016 09:09 PM, aitor_czr wrote: So, i did't change the /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/functions/ It should work. Cheers, Aitor. Now i can test the initramfs and yes, one funtion is empty :( I' fix it inmediately and upload the new initramfs-tool, together w

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-16 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, On 08/16/2016 08:38 AM, aitor_czr wrote: I just uploaded the new packages of VDEV to the old repository: http://gnuinos.org/unsystemd/ It includes: initramfs-tools, fskit, pstat and vdev I renamed some packages. Temporally there will be some fields like this one: Breaks: libudev-c

[DNG] devuan i386 CD

2016-08-16 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
I am trying to install 32 bit Devuan from the CD (off the Download Zone), but it's gone into a badness loop at "Install the base system" at the point of installing busybox. I captured the installation syslog at this point, and it suggests 3 problem points: Aug 16 08:00:40 base-installer: W: Fai

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-16 Thread karl
Edward Bartolo: ... > LILO is out of question. ... > Besides that, it cannot recognize GPT formatted disks. It does not care about MBR vs. GPT as long it can find the blocks where the kernel and possible initrd/initramfs is. I use Lilo on two GPT formatted disks where the partitions are mirrore

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

2016-08-16 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
Ralph Ronnquist wrote on 16/08/16 18:16: I am trying to install 32 bit Devuan from the CD (off the Download Zone), but it's gone into a badness loop at "Install the base system" at the point of installing busybox. I captured the installation syslog at this point, and it suggests 3 problem points:

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-16 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, On 08/16/2016 10:42 AM, aitor_czr wrote: VERY IMPORTANT: i'm working on a Server without Xorg. Don't use these packages on a desktop because i put in the debian/control the following lines for building the kernel within a chroot jail: Package: vdev Provides: udev Package: libudev-co

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

2016-08-16 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 20:38 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > However, it's somewhat peculiar that the CD (and DVD) Devuan installs  > require network. Without network it gets stuck early on. (Or maybe I'm  > doing something wrong there again?) Are you using the beta images from April? Due to a mi

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

2016-08-16 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
Svante Signell wrote on 16/08/16 21:18: On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 20:38 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: However, it's somewhat peculiar that the CD (and DVD) Devuan installs require network. Without network it gets stuck early on. (Or maybe I'm doing something wrong there again?) Are you using the

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

2016-08-16 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: > [Sorry, this ended up being longer than I'd hoped.] That's OK - it's worth the read. > Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > >> There was one other thing that came to mind earlier ... >> If ${company} decided to do that, and they had previously distributed >> bina

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-16 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Brad Campbell writes: > On 16/08/16 00:09, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): >> > >> >>> Or, the first disk gets assigned a different position. >> >> Which happens when exactly? Because you're screwing around with >> swapping in and out different HBAs? Well, if you

[DNG] The state of Devuan

2016-08-16 Thread Jim Murphy
DistroWatch has seen fit to run an opinion poll[1] on Devuan this week titled "The state of Devuan". I personally don't take much stock in opinion polls as they are generally not very accurate to begin with, but others may. I also think this one is a little early to be asked. I know others were

[DNG] August sprint?

2016-08-16 Thread Go Linux
Now in the middle of August and other than the active evolution of vdev, no sprint activity that I'm aware of. Have i missed something? Or maybe I misunderstood the teaser from last month? golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://maili

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread fsmithred
On 08/15/2016 01:36 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > > > On 08/15/2016 07:12 PM, fsmithred wrote: >> More testing: >> >> Scanner (ScanMaker 4800) is not found by xsane. If I boot with udev >> instead of vdev, scanner works normally. >> >> I installed live-boot, live-config, live-boot-initramfs-tools, >> li

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread shraptor
I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 137 Aug 16 10:30 010 and with vdev, it looks like this: crw--- 1 root root 189, 131 Aug 16 10:39 004 I changed the per

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread shraptor
On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 137 Aug 16 10:30 010 and with vdev, it looks like this: crw--- 1 root root 189, 1

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread aitor_czr
Hi fsmithred, On 08/16/2016 05:36 PM, fsmithred wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 137 Aug 16 10:30 010 and with vdev, it looks like this: crw---

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

2016-08-16 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - From: "Svante Signell" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD > On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 20:38 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > > >> However, it's somewhat peculiar that the CD (and DVD) Devuan installs >> require network. Witho

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread shraptor
On 2016-08-16 18:19, shraptor wrote: On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 137 Aug 16 10:30 010 and with vdev, it looks li

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread fsmithred
On 08/16/2016 12:29 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > > I can't boot the system with vdev: > > > Booting the kernel. > > [ . ] Failed to execute / init ( error - 13 ) > > can't run '/etc/init.d/rsC' No such file or directory > If you're lucky, the fix will be as simple as changin

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se): > It does not care about MBR vs. GPT as long it can find the blocks where > the kernel and possible initrd/initramfs is. > > I use Lilo on two GPT formatted disks where the partitions are mirrored > and have no problems with it, remove any disk, still

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread fsmithred
On 08/16/2016 12:49 PM, shraptor wrote: > On 2016-08-16 18:19, shraptor wrote: >> On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ crw-

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

2016-08-16 Thread fsmithred
On 08/16/2016 12:18 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Svante Signell" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:18 AM > Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD > > >> On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 20:38 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: >> >> >>> However, it's somewhat pec

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 18:29 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi fsmithred, >  >   > I can't boot the system with vdev: > > >     Booting the kernel. > >     [ .  ]   Failed to execute / init  ( error - 13 ) > >     can't run  '/etc/init.d/rsC'   No such file or directory This is a typo

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

2016-08-16 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - From: "fsmithred" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD On 08/16/2016 12:18 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: - Original Message - From: "Svante Signell" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [D

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-16 Thread karl
Rick Moen: > Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se): > > It does not care about MBR vs. GPT as long it can find the blocks where > > the kernel and possible initrd/initramfs is. > > I use Lilo on two GPT formatted disks where the partitions are mirrored > > and have no problems with it, remov

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread aitor_czr
On 08/16/2016 08:24 PM, fsmithred wrote: On 08/16/2016 12:29 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > >I can't boot the system with vdev: > > > Booting the kernel. > > [ . ] Failed to execute / init ( error - 13 ) > > can't run '/etc/init.d/rsC' No such file or directory > If you're luck

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

2016-08-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > So given the hypothetical case where Exampleco "takes over"* a project > with the sole desire of burying it, the worst (effectively) that any > of the copyright holders in that code could do is have a court order > that Exampleco cease distribution

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:05:12PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Rick Moen: > > Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se): > > > It does not care about MBR vs. GPT as long it can find the blocks where > > > the kernel and possible initrd/initramfs is. > > > I use Lilo on two GPT formatted dis

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

2016-08-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 02:12:06PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > > However, even an open source codebase over which a single, evil-leaning > commercial entity owns sole copyright can be forked at any time. By > anyone. All you need is code access and an appropriate licence. > > That's the whole poi

[DNG] live-build Contents-(arch).gz - request

2016-08-16 Thread Ozi Traveller
Hi Aitor Would it be possible to devuan to continue to produce the Contents files that live-build uses, until the Devuan-SDK is completed? Thanks Ozi ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] live-build Contents-(arch).gz - request

2016-08-16 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Ozi, On 08/16/2016 11:46 PM, Ozi Traveller wrote: Hi Aitor Would it be possible to devuan to continue to produce the Contents files that live-build uses, until the Devuan-SDK is completed? Thanks Ozi Of course, it's possible to produce them. I explained the way in the mailing list.

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

2016-08-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > Just to be clear, that's the point of open source *as* *originally* > *envisaged*. Unfortunately, I believe there has been a campaign to > devalue the meaning of open source to mean any software fro which the > user gets the source code, whether

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

2016-08-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 03:10:37PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > > > Just to be clear, that's the point of open source *as* *originally* > > *envisaged*. Unfortunately, I believe there has been a campaign to > > devalue the meaning of open source to

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread fsmithred
On 08/16/2016 12:49 PM, shraptor wrote: > On 2016-08-16 18:19, shraptor wrote: >> On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ crw-

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
fsmithred wrote on 17/08/16 09:34: On 08/16/2016 12:49 PM, shraptor wrote: On 2016-08-16 18:19, shraptor wrote: On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ cr

Re: [DNG] systemd greybeards

2016-08-16 Thread Brian Nash
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 07:03:57PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: - wait, windows is stable enough to run a server on? :) I never said it was stable, but people think otherwise. It's kind of like US politics: The only people who care enough to go far are the ones you don't want. Lying, corrupt pol

[DNG] I've begun UMENU version2

2016-08-16 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, Today I begun UMENU, version 2, based on the feedback I got from all of you. Menu structure contained in a directory hierarchy with files serving as key->value pairs. I have the Config class up and running and have started the Menu class, which is the tough one. I also need to make an Exec

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

2016-08-16 Thread fsmithred
On 08/16/2016 07:54 PM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > fsmithred wrote on 17/08/16 09:34: >> On 08/16/2016 12:49 PM, shraptor wrote: >>> On 2016-08-16 18:19, shraptor wrote: On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: >> I got the scanner working. >> >> If I boot with udev, the scanner works, a

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-16 Thread Brad Campbell
On 16/08/16 21:54, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Apart from that, current LILO versions already do seem to support this and even if they didn't, adding a "Try 0x81. In case it doesn't exist, try 0x80" option to the code wouldn't be terribly complicated. Just requires "another learning curve" ... I ha

Re: [DNG] GRUB shell (was: vdev)

2016-08-16 Thread Peter Olson
> On August 14, 2016 at 7:12 AM fsmithred wrote: > > On 08/14/2016 05:50 AM, Peter Olson wrote: > >> On August 14, 2016 at 5:31 AM Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> ..one neat thing about grub, is its shell, once you get the menu, > >> hit "e" and then the tab key twice, and play aro