On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 01:22:25PM -0400, Brian Nash wrote:
> I'm not sure on the specifics of the change, but for most scripted uses
> you would probably pass it the `-1` flag anyway.
>
> If it doesn't list one file per line anymore, that could be quite
> serious: we would need to use `dir` inste
On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 07:37:54 +1000, Ralph wrote in message
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> In my experience, there's no need to be root for creating and running
> libvirt VM's. I needed to be root only to set up the VDE host-only
> network for them to attach to, and then all
These are my step notes for replacing systemd-udev with vdev in a Devuan
desktop installation.
1) Devuan CD installation: with DE, Xfce, printer server, ssh server
and standard utilities. This typically red-screens me once during the
package installation, but works fine when repeating the step.
The Devuan netinstall iso says:
"A CDROM drive has been found and it currently contains the CD Debian
GNU/Linux 1.0 "Jessie" - Official [..]"
s/Debian/Devuan/
R.
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 13:58:01 +0200
richard lucassen wrote:
> The Devuan netinstall iso says:
>
> "A CDROM drive has been found and it currently contains the CD Debian
> GNU/Linux 1.0 "Jessie" - Official [..]"
>
> s/Debian/Devuan/
And when asked for a *manual* mirror:
Choose a mirror of the Dev
On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:11:01 +1000
Ralph Ronnquist wrote:
> These are my step notes for replacing systemd-udev with vdev in a
> Devuan desktop installation.
Thnx! I wonder what will happen if I use the deb files from:
http://packages.gnuinos.org/pool/main/v/vdev/
I suppose you haven't tried tha
On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:08:59 +0200
richard lucassen wrote:
I think this question can be removed?:
"Participate in the package usage survey?"
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:30:32 +0200
richard lucassen wrote:
I think this package selection option can be removed?:
"Gnome"
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On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 02:30:32PM +0200, richard lucassen wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:08:59 +0200
> richard lucassen wrote:
>
> I think this question can be removed?:
>
> "Participate in the package usage survey?"
It's opt-in, and provides useful data.
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 17:23:24 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> > I think this question can be removed?:
> >
> > "Participate in the package usage survey?"
>
> It's opt-in, and provides useful data.
It's ok for me, but Devuan != Debian
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On 08/08/2016 08:15 AM, richard lucassen wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:11:01 +1000
> Ralph Ronnquist wrote:
>
>> These are my step notes for replacing systemd-udev with vdev in a
>> Devuan desktop installation.
>
> Thnx! I wonder what will happen if I use the deb files from:
>
> http://package
On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 08:00:17PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
Debian was dilligent enough to revert the patch (half a year ago).
Half a year ago?
If that's true, then this must be old news, and I apologize.
However, the messages concerning coreutils changes only appeared in my
inbox recently
Personally, I only need to use `for f in /dir/*`.
Failing that, `echo /dir/*` (possibly piped through xargs) works too.
`ls` seems to be more for human eyes than scripting anyway.
All the modes, etc. should really be read through `stat`.
But when you're just starting out, you probably don't kno
Quoting Jack L. Frost (f...@fleshless.org):
> No. The way you use ls in scripts is you don't.
> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
Amen to that. That's why this entire thread's more than a bit silly.
Use file(1) for that purpose, for heaven's sake.
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Hi,
On 08/08/2016 08:16 PM, fsmithred wrote:
On 08/08/2016 08:15 AM, richard lucassen wrote:
>On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:11:01 +1000
>Ralph Ronnquist wrote:
>
>>These are my step notes for replacing systemd-udev with vdev in a
>>Devuan desktop installation.
>
>Thnx! I wonder what will happen if
Hi,
On 08/08/2016 08:16 PM, fsmithred wrote:
On 08/08/2016 08:15 AM, richard lucassen wrote:
>On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:11:01 +1000
>Ralph Ronnquist wrote:
>
>>These are my step notes for replacing systemd-udev with vdev in a
>>Devuan desktop installation.
>
>Thnx! I wonder what will happen if
On Sun, 8/7/16, Adam Borowski wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs.
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, August 7, 2016, 9:42 PM
On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 06:31:10PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&p=621842#p621842
On 09/08/16 06:03, Go Linux wrote:
I posted a link to this response at the FDN link posted above. This was the
response from the author of the howto:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=621972#p621972
He concludes:
". . . I would prefer to use the systemd-supplied components (systemd-b
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:33:58 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message
<20160713133358.GA22089@reflex>:
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, dev wrote:
>
> > tasks. Why these devs do these things is beyond reason.
>
> the main reason is that they are lazy and cannot bother to work their
> way against the trend. you sa
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:44:01 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message
<20160712114401.GA27051@reflex>:
> On Fri, 08 Jul 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..this clearly is where we could have used a http://groklaw.net/
> > style website.
>
> Groklaw was great not because of the website, but because of the
>
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:05:51 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20160712110551.gt18...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:49:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > ..nowadays I see Devuan falling apart exactly because Debian
> > is falling apart, for details, run:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 11:12:26 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message
<20160715091226.GA27441@reflex>:
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Peter Olson wrote:
>
> > You misunderstand what the IOCCC is about. It's a game. Nobody
> > trying to write useful code will do anything like what IOCCC writes.
>
> well, I eve
Steve Litt wrote on 08/03/2016 10:09 AM:
>
> I usually de-install all of Pulseaudio.
>
Thanks for all the input everyone! I've removed pulse and have only ALSA now.
It's working much, much better.
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:03:31 + (UTC)
Go Linux wrote:
> I posted a link to this response at the FDN link posted above. This
> was the response from the author of the howto:
>
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=621972#p621972
>
> He concludes:
>
> ". . . I would prefer to use the sy
Considering the fact that many Linux users moan about not being able
to run the latest "shiny" software, and sometimes even complain and
insist they want their MS Windows applications on their Linux
machines, I have to concede them, that this time systemd scored an
extra brownie point in their favo
I apologize for top-posting, but I have no idea what you are talking about.
For the record, I am not fond of GRUB2 either.
Peter Olson
> On August 9, 2016 at 1:52 AM Edward Bartolo wrote:
>
> Considering the fact that many Linux users moan about not being able
> to run the latest "shiny" softw
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