On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Thomas Besser wrote:
> Am 26.07.2016 um 16:14 schrieb KatolaZ:
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 03:53:22PM +0200, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote:
> >> At the moment the Pi 2 beta image is ... well ... bare, even the main
> >> module
> >> bcm2835 is not installed by default. To
Am 27.07.2016 um 09:58 schrieb parazyd:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Thomas Besser wrote:
>> Where can I find some starting stuff for Devuan on RPi?
>
> You can use the current master branch of arm-sdk[0]
[...]
> [0] https://git.devuan.org/devuan/arm-sdk
I thought of some devuan images (alpha/beta) ;
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Thomas Besser wrote:
> Am 27.07.2016 um 09:58 schrieb parazyd:
> > On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Thomas Besser wrote:
> >> Where can I find some starting stuff for Devuan on RPi?
> >
> > You can use the current master branch of arm-sdk[0]
>
> [...]
>
> > [0] https://git.devuan.org/d
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> I maintain that, for practical purposes, the preceding quote from dasein
> is completely true and not at all loose or rhetorical excess. Let's
> replace "init system" with "wheel" and "systemd" with "a car":
Your vocabulary word for the day: 'Syn
Quoting Simon Walter (si...@gikaku.com):
> What I don't like is tight coupling.
I'm with you on that. This is why I see the problem as being pretty
much the entire Freedesktop.org 'stack', e.g., upower, udisks2, D-Bus,
udev, and all the rest -- not just systemd. I see all of them as being
probl
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:01:04AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Rainer Weikusat (rweiku...@talktalk.net):
>
> > Rick Moen writes:
> > > Quoting Rainer Weikusat (rweiku...@talktalk.net):
> > >
> > >> To re-iterate this:
> > >
> > > [more very strangely worded, difficult-to-parse prose, seemi
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 08:15:27AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 26/07/2016 12:59, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
> >Didier Kryn writes:
> >>Le 25/07/2016 01:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
> >>>Sleeping on a contended mutex is implemented in this way. But that's
> >>>supposed to be an exceptional case.
On 07/26/2016 12:37 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
It _was_ indeed an unnecessary build dependency.
Precisely my point. A point which could be made about systemd in
general: A lot of unnecessary.
agree that it's 'problematic' in the sense that I'd rather not have it
on my systems, but it's not of
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 13:57:55 +0900
Simon Walter wrote:
> What I don't like is tight coupling.
BANG! Seven little words tell the whole story.
Arguments, intellectualization, technical oneupsmanship, and just plain
nonsense, all made unnecessary by seven little words.
Thank you Simon!
SteveT
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 02:41:39 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Simon Walter (si...@gikaku.com):
>
> > What I don't like is tight coupling.
>
> I'm with you on that. This is why I see the problem as being pretty
> much the entire Freedesktop.org 'stack', e.g., upower, udisks2, D-Bus,
> udev, a
I recently replied to several threads on this list, and in many cases I
forgot to CC the actual list, so the replies only went to one person.
dng is actually the first mailing list I have ever used/contributed to,
so I am not sure how I'm supposed to do a few things.
Currently, I reply with the
Quoting Brian Nash (bcn...@gmail.com):
> Is this the way I am supposed to do it?
Your MUA (mail user agent = e-mail client), even if it's only GMail's
webmail interface, has _two_ distinct reply modes: reply-sender and
reply-all.
o Use reply-all for normal public replies on mailing lists.
o
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> Once again, it is a matter of trust, not technical content. Do you
> trust the maintainers of libsystemd0 not to entangle it with unwanted
> systemd-isms? You evidently do. Rainer does not.
I'm certainly willing to consider the possibility tha
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Didier Kryn writes:
> Le 26/07/2016 12:59, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
>> Didier Kryn writes:
>>> Le 25/07/2016 01:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
Sleeping on a contended mutex is implemented in this wa
Rainer Weikusat writes:
This can be avoided by ensuring that each thread which needs to hold A
and B acquired A first and B second.
Every time I've run into that in the past ten years, the reason for the
deadlock was that subsystem X locked B and subsystem Y Z, and then someone
made a functio
Hendrik Boom writes:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:01:04AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>> Quoting Rainer Weikusat (rweiku...@talktalk.net):
>> > Rick Moen writes:
>> > > Quoting Rainer Weikusat (rweiku...@talktalk.net):
>> > >
>> > >> To re-iterate this:
>> > >
>> > > [more very strangely worded, dif
* On 2016 27 Jul 12:03 -0500, Brian Nash wrote:
> I recently replied to several threads on this list, and in many cases I
> forgot to CC the actual list, so the replies only went to one person.
I see you're using Mutt. The L command will initiate a reply to the
list.
- Nate
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On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:24:04AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Brian Nash (bcn...@gmail.com):
Is this the way I am supposed to do it?
Your MUA (mail user agent = e-mail client), even if it's only GMail's
webmail interface, has _two_ distinct reply modes: reply-sender and
reply-all.
o U
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 13:02:10 -0400
Brian Nash wrote:
> I recently replied to several threads on this list, and in many cases
> I forgot to CC the actual list, so the replies only went to one
> person.
>
> dng is actually the first mailing list I have ever used/contributed
> to, so I am not sure
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:34:55AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> By the way, what specifically does 'entangle it with unwanted
> systemd-isms' actually _mean_, and what does that have to do with
> whatever-the-heck-it-was that Rainier said? Once again, it seems to me,
> there's vagueness in unfortu
Rick Moen wrote:
> ... then I'll be replacing libsystemd0 with an 'equivs'
> recipe about two minutes later.
And won't you then find that all those packages with gratuitous libsystemd0
dependencies will stop working ?
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Quoting dev (devua...@gmail.com):
> On systems where security and stability are important, needless
> dependencies and pointless software expose a broader attack surface.
Generically, yes.
I definitely always appreciate having less unwanted code on my system,
particularly code that ever runs wit
Hendrik Boom writes:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:34:55AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>> By the way, what specifically does 'entangle it with unwanted
>> systemd-isms' actually _mean_, and what does that have to do with
>> whatever-the-heck-it-was that Rainier said? Once again, it seems to me,
>> the
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
> And won't you then find that all those packages with gratuitous
> libsystemd0 dependencies will stop working ?
I have a better question: Is there something about empiricism that many
people on this mailing list cannot cope with?
Back when I had n
Quoting Rainer Weikusat (rweiku...@talktalk.net):
> these are obviously not identical: The subjects differ.
I repeat: I really did not understand what you were saying, and I still
don't. Therefore, I summarised my best guess, apologised for probably
being dense and overly fond of the specific a
On 27/07/16 21:21, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Rainer Weikusat (rweiku...@talktalk.net):
these are obviously not identical: The subjects differ.
I repeat: I really did not understand what you were saying, and I still
don't. Therefore, I summarised my best guess, apologised for probably
being de
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 13:17:40 -0700, Rick wrote in message
<20160727201740.gf10...@linuxmafia.com>:
> Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
>
> > And won't you then find that all those packages with gratuitous
> > libsystemd0 dependencies will stop working ?
>
> I have a better question
Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):
> ..re-running your tests now, do you still get the same results
> now, as back then when you first checked?
root@mini:/tmp# cd /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
root@mini:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# chmod 000 libsystemd.so.0.3.1
root@mini:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# rc-se
On 07/28/2016 02:02 AM, Brian Nash wrote:
I recently replied to several threads on this list, and in many cases I
forgot to CC the actual list, so the replies only went to one person.
dng is actually the first mailing list I have ever used/contributed to,
so I am not sure how I'm supposed to do
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> hiya folks,
>
> i just managed to get the cubieboard's image unpacked and installed on
> an EOMA68-A20 computer card
> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_beta/
okay so this was successful, and i now have the eoma68-a20 c
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:23:46 -0700, Rick wrote in message
<20160727232346.gh10...@linuxmafia.com>:
> Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):
>
> > ..re-running your tests now, do you still get the same results
> > now, as back then when you first checked?
>
>
> root@mini:/tmp# cd /lib/x86_6
Le 27/07/2016 17:54, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
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Didier Kryn writes:
Le 26/07/2016 12:59, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
Didier Kryn writes:
Le 25/07/2016 01:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
Sleeping on a c
Yet another Big Well Done to Devuan!
Long Life Choice!
Big NO to software lock-ins!
:D :D :D
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