Le 21/07/2016 04:15, Adam Borowski a écrit :
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 06:27:25PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
In any case, any person who has the possibility to push the
power button or cut the power cord should be given the opportunity
to click the halt button in
Le 21/07/2016 06:48, Rick Moen a écrit :
The purpose
of making such software shutdown not trivially easy wasn't to prevent
shutdown. It is to create undeniable awareness. Mindfulness.
The standard solution to give users_deliberately_ that software access
is to add them to a group with that
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
> I don't know anybody able to stop a server because of own
> unawareness. They all would do it only on request by the admin.
> Hypothetic malevolent people just haven't the key of the room.
That works! ;->
Believe it or not, though, it's not unknown to
Hi all,
For those people working on live-build:
I'll explain how to generate the /pool and the /dists trees, containing
all the packages, sources, Contents.gz, etc... But first of all i want
to do the following clarification: generating the *Contents* takes TOO
long. As i once commented, i tr
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:35:18 +0200, aitor_czr wrote in message
<5790a566.5080...@gnuinos.org>:
> Hi all,
>
> For those people working on live-build:
>
> I'll explain how to generate the /pool and the /dists trees,
> containing all the packages, sources, Contents.gz, etc... But first
> of all i
Didier Kryn said:
> In any case, any person who has the possibility to push the power
> button or cut the power cord should be given the opportunity to click
> the halt button instead. ctrl-alt-f1+ctrl-alt-del can be used to
> reboot, but there's nothing to halt.
I'd actually forgotten about
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 19:51:04 +0800
Robert Storey wrote:
> Not that I want to do so, but can ctrl-alt-f1+ctrl-alt-del be
> disabled by the sysadmin?
Yes, you can disable both, independently:
The command executed by ctrl+alt+del is defined in /etc/inittab.
The switching of virtual consoles with
Le 21/07/2016 13:51, Robert Storey a écrit :
Not that I want to do so, but can ctrl-alt-f1+ctrl-alt-del be disabled
by the sysadmin?
For "halt," there are always magic keys, as long as that's not
disabled by the sysadmin...
Alt-SysRq reisuo
I don't reply to your questions since Florian
Didier Kryn writes:
I don't reply to your questions since Florian did :-) but
I, myself, have two questions:
- Still don't know what key you are talking of;
never seen that on a keyboard.
- What do you mean by "reisuo" ?
You learn something new every day. Today it's sysrq and
I wrote:
You learn something new every day. Today it's sysrq and linux:
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt
The poor developers among you may take special note of alt-sysrq-f, which
kills a memory-eating process quite reliably. The good developers among you
never have bugs that
Le 21/07/2016 14:50, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit :
Didier Kryn writes:
I don't reply to your questions since Florian did :-) but I,
myself, have two questions:
- Still don't know what key you are talking of; never
seen that on a keyboard.
- What do you mean by "reisuo" ?
You lea
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 01:50:41PM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> Didier Kryn writes:
> >- Still don't know what key you are talking of; never seen
> >that on a keyboard.
It might be either a key on its own or printed on the side of PrtScr.
> >- What do you mean by "reisuo" ?
>
> You
Didier Kryn writes:
Thanks to you all! I eventually discovered that my
key had also a tiny label saying sys-rq !
Will try it tonight...
You can always get a daskeyboard or happy hacker and escape the tyranny of
built-in documentation. This is mine:
http://www.getdigital.de/images/action
Le 21/07/2016 14:58, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit :
I wrote:
You learn something new every day. Today it's sysrq and linux:
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt
The poor developers among you may take special note of alt-sysrq-f,
which kills a memory-eating process quite reliably. Th
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 09:09:28AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> I've now replaced Slim by Lightdm. Dunno what key "sysrq" is.
sysrq is sometimes labelled PrtSc. In the old DOS days, it would print
the screen.
No doubt this might require documentation, too.
-- hendrik
__
Quoting Arnt Gulbrandsen (a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no):
> You learn something new every day. Today it's sysrq and linux:
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt
That's what it's like to be among the lucky 10,000!
https://xkcd.com/1053/
--
Cheers, L
I cannot reach the onion address of Devuan
http://devuanzuwu3xoqwp.onion
I get a "404 Not Found"
Have it been working before?
In addition I want to ask if the Devuan package repositories via Tor
and apt-transport-tor
are reachable?
/scooby
___
D
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 10:18:14 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Arnt Gulbrandsen (a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no):
>
> > You learn something new every day. Today it's sysrq and linux:
> > https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt
>
> That's what it's like to be among the lucky 10,000!
> http
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > That's what it's like to be among the lucky 10,000!
> > https://xkcd.com/1053/
>
> For the past 25 years, I shake my head in amazement at the profound
> stupidity of myself at an age five years earlier.
You might have been
On 07/20/2016 05:19 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 09:57:41PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Simon Walter wrote:
Since this is Devuan (something about veteran *unix* admins, and
coming from Debian - the *universal* OS), I would not have expected
Devuan's fans and u
On Thu, 7/21/16, Simon Walter wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] Flexible software (Was: F1 and special usernames on the
login screen)
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016, 7:29 PM
On 07/20/2016 05:19 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 09:57:41PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
Le 21/07/2016 14:50, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit :
Didier Kryn writes:
I don't reply to your questions since Florian did :-) but I,
myself, have two questions:
- Still don't know what key you are talking of; never
seen that on a keyboard.
- What do you mean by "reisuo" ?
You lea
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
> BTW my laptop has an English keyboard because it is impossible in
> Europe to buy one with a US keyboard.
You're not missing a _thing_! ;-> (I say this as a native speaker of
English, who also speaks American through translation.)
--
Cheers,
Le 22/07/2016 07:01, Rick Moen a écrit :
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
BTW my laptop has an English keyboard because it is impossible in
Europe to buy one with a US keyboard.
You're not missing a _thing_! ;-> (I say this as a native speaker of
English, who also speaks American through
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:01:34PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
>
> > BTW my laptop has an English keyboard because it is impossible in
> > Europe to buy one with a US keyboard.
>
> You're not missing a _thing_! ;-> (I say this as a native speaker of
> English,
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
> With a French keyboard, I can write in en-UK or en-US, and it is
> also much more convenient when writing in fr-FR.
Vraiment? C'est intéressant. ('Truly? This is interesting.')
I must confess ignorance. FWIW, usually in my experience, the main
disadvan
Le 22/07/2016 07:18, Adam Borowski a écrit :
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:01:34PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
BTW my laptop has an English keyboard because it is impossible in
Europe to buy one with a US keyboard.
You're not missing a _thing_! ;-> (I say this
Le 22/07/2016 07:24, Rick Moen a écrit :
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
>With a French keyboard, I can write in en-UK or en-US, and it is
>also much more convenient when writing in fr-FR.
Vraiment? C'est intéressant. ('Truly? This is interesting.')
I must confess ignorance. FWIW, usu
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
> Same problem as you: accents aren't available on En keyboards
> (or by tricks I ignore). I use to pick them from various documents
> with the mouse - or use a Fr keyboard.
I actually have a bigger problem. My MUA (mail user agent = e-mail
client) is running
Le 22/07/2016 08:07, Rick Moen a écrit :
My MUA (mail user agent = e-mail
client) is running on my SMTP server, uncle-enzo.linuxmafia.com,
mutt under GNU screen on Linux -- but I'm almost never there.
Instead, I'm pretty much anywhere else in the world, typing on some
machine that is ssh'ed to
On 07/22/2016 01:56 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 21/07/2016 14:50, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit :
Didier Kryn writes:
I don't reply to your questions since Florian did :-) but I,
myself, have two questions:
- Still don't know what key you are talking of; never
seen that on a keyboard.
-
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016, Simon Walter wrote:
> On 07/20/2016 05:19 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > Could you point us to those proper Devuan channels?
[...]
> > Signal to noise ratio is very low here
> Are these correct?
> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devuan-announce
> https
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