Le 24/05/2016 12:50, Jaromil a écrit :
> >>Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
> >[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping.
> >
>
>No idea what that means. I like emacs for text editing and don't use it
>for anything else.
in brief it means that is impossible to
Hi Edward,
El 29/03/16 a las 00:58, Edward Bartolo escribió:
I found using the return value of a function makes code much more
>readable and probably more reliable. Multiple return values can be
>encapsulated inside a structure which would be returned by a function.
>I used this construct in s
Le 24/05/2016 23:04, emnin...@riseup.net a écrit :
I would like to have in the terminal (i use xterm), directories shown
not only with a different colour (i managed that) but also with final
slash (i liked that in some bsd and in slackware), e.g.:
~/.bogofilter/
~/.claws-mail/
etc. Someone know
On Tue, 24 May 2016 23:07:33 +0200
Irrwahn wrote:
> In my humble opinion a quality distribution like Devuan
> should not show a potential weakness at such a crucial
> spot by shipping a package in questionable condition.
Hallo Irrwahn,
in an earlier mail you wrote regarding slim:
| Subject
Hello DNG,
has anybody else experienced problems using the
apt-file utility recently?
Whatever I try, I always get:
# apt-file search
E: The cache is empty. You need to run "apt update" first.
Of course I followed the hint, but to no avail.
I tried this as both normal user and as root,
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
> Hello DNG,
>
> has anybody else experienced problems using the
> apt-file utility recently?
yes, it is a known bug.
it is documented in an issue on Amprolla on our gitlab.
Amprolla is undergoing a major maintainance and Nextime is busy
setting up a new b
On Wed, 25 May 2016 12:08:12 +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 23:07:33 +0200
> Irrwahn wrote:
>
>> In my humble opinion a quality distribution like Devuan
>> should not show a potential weakness at such a crucial
>> spot by shipping a package in questionable condition.
>
>
On Wed, 25 May 2016 12:28:22 +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
>
>> Hello DNG,
>>
>> has anybody else experienced problems using the
>> apt-file utility recently?
>
> yes, it is a known bug.
>
> it is documented in an issue on Amprolla on our gitlab.
>
> Amprolla is
Hi all,
El 25/05/16 a las 10:50, Daniel Reurich escribió:
Hi,
Sorry for hooking back an earlier part of this thread, but I turned back
to xpdf a while back as it was the only pdf viewer that I found produces
consistently good and correct rendering results. It can print too. The
biggest proble
Hi All,
I didn't want to resuscitate old discussions, so I am writing a new one.
I am actually using Nvidia drivers from jessie-backports, but I would like
to try nouveau drivers for my Nvidia card to get rid of some proprietary
blobs...
With current kernel in stable(3.16), nouveau don't support
Le 25/05/2016 14:49, Antonio Trkdz.tab a écrit :
Can I compile the 4.1 without having to get the gcc4.9 compiler?
I think you can compile your kernel with any version of gcc 3, 4 or
5, but take care of the C library. The libc used by your OS (ie glibc)
must be compiled with the kernel hea
On Wed, 25 May 2016 13:49:23 +0100, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote:
[...]
> I had a look at installing the 4.5 kernel from ascii, but it pulls a lot o
> dipendences, including libsystemd0 (again)
[...]
This is odd. (FWIW, I'm writing from an Ascii installation
with the stock 4.5 kernel, and no libs
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2016 12:08:12 +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 May 2016 23:07:33 +0200
> > Irrwahn wrote:
> >
> >> In my humble opinion a quality distribution like Devuan
> >> should not show a potential weakness at such a crucial
> >> spot by s
On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:11:20 +0200, Jaromil wrote:
[...]
> I don't exclude adopting the package with Devuan becoming upstream
>
> but are we 100% sure that there are no other alternatives out there,
FWIW, below is the trimmed-down version of a list I
shamelessly ripped from:
https://wiki.archl
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Dima Krasner wrote:
>slim is far from perfect, that's true. However, "it works" and
>LightDM can use both ConsoleKit and logind in the version
>packaged in Jessie, but prefers logind. Other DMs have a hard
>dependency on logind, or will in the future. We cannot
Thank you Didier and Urban.
>I think you can compile your kernel with any version of gcc 3, 4 or 5, but
take care of the C library. The libc used by your OS (ie glibc) must be
compiled with the kernel headers for the kernel version it runs on.
So to be clear...if I download the sources and I comp
Hendrik Boom writes:
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:40:37PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
[same as below but worded differently]
>>
>> ... and what the Lisp 1.5 FUNCTION was about was to enable solving the
>> so-called 'upward funarg problem': Assuming a function is returned
>> (passed upward) wh
Hi. Indeed upgrading my system in some way i lost fglrx, and now, when
i try to reinstall it from the repositories i'm getting that there is
no fglrx driver. When i reactivate the Jessie repositories, the driver
is there but when i try to install it, synaptic or apt-get lament that
fglrx depends on
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:25:56PM +0100, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote:
[cut]
>
> In a previous discussion Hendrick Boom suggested it as an easy solution,
> but do you recommend having mixed source (ascii/jessie)? I am afraid I
> could mess up my system regretfully in the long runeven if only for
Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it
shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu at least in former times) it was not
installed ... (?) But it's a long time i was away from Debian ...
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On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:38:11PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
[cut]
>
> I don't know whether you already are aware of it, but the best way to
> compile a vanilla kernel on Debian/Devuas is through using
^^
It's Devuan, obvoiously.
HND
KatolaZ
--
[ Enzo Ni
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:22:01PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> The LISP "alist" implementation is, as we noted earlier, an
> example of the "deep access" approach". The "alist" contains
> pointers to previous values of all bound variables together with
> the variable
Le 25/05/2016 16:25, Antonio Trkdz.tab a écrit :
Thank you Didier and Urban.
>I think you can compile your kernel with any version of gcc 3, 4 or 5, but take care of the C
library. The libc used by your OS (ie glibc) must be compiled with the
kernel headers for the kernel version it runs on.
Le 25/05/2016 16:38, KatolaZ a écrit :
Having said that, I think you should not have too many problems
compiling a 4.x kernel with glibc-2.19 (the version you find in
Jessie)
The kernel doesn't make any call to the glibc; it is the opposite:
when running the new kernel, the userland invoke
On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:25:56 +0100, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote:
> Now that I think of it, I got rid of libsystemd0 by having gvfs and dbus
> installed from angband repos, might it be that I need to reinstall some
> packages from there, but ascii repo (it will take a bit of system
> pinning,though)
Thank you for the info!
>It's Devuan, obvoiously.
Got it! :)
>I don't know whether you already are aware of it, but the best way to
compile a vanilla kernel on Debian/Devuas is through using
kernel-package, which compiles the kernel and produces a
ready-to-install .deb package.
Yeah, you mentio
Thanks to Ozi i got two desktop independent logout/hibernate tools which
generally work fine (cb-exit and oblogout). But i have a problem when i
try the suspend/restart commands:
I get this error msg:
---
Error org.freedesktop.UPower.GeneralError: not authorized
---
The command in the above tool
Hendrik Boom writes:
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:22:01PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
>>
>> The LISP "alist" implementation is, as we noted earlier, an
>> example of the "deep access" approach". The "alist" contains
>> pointers to previous values of all bound variables together
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:53:50PM +0100, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote:
> Thank you for the info!
>
> >It's Devuan, obvoiously.
>
> Got it! :)
>
> >I don't know whether you already are aware of it, but the best way to
> compile a vanilla kernel on Debian/Devuas is through using
> kernel-package, whic
Rainer Weikusat writes:
> Hendrik Boom writes:
>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:40:37PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> [same as below but worded differently]
>
>>>
>>> ... and what the Lisp 1.5 FUNCTION was about was to enable solving the
>>> so-called 'upward funarg problem': Assuming a functio
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 04:49:12PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 25/05/2016 16:38, KatolaZ a écrit :
> >Having said that, I think you should not have too many problems
> >compiling a 4.x kernel with glibc-2.19 (the version you find in
> >Jessie)
>
> The kernel doesn't make any call to the gli
On Wed, 25 May 2016 07:56:57 +0200
wrote:
> Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it
> shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu at least in former times) it was not
> installed ... (?) But it's a long time i was away from Debian ...
There's no Pulseaudio on my system. So I don'
Hi Antonio,
El 25/05/16 a las 16:25, "Antonio Trkdz.tab"
escribió:
Another thing I had a small attempt at was to pull the kernel
4.3.05(ish)-libre from gnuinos, but for some reason the repository listed
in the web page didn't work in my hands.
You are right, both links to the apt repositories
El 25/05/16 a las 10:50, aitor_czr escribió:
Hi Edward,
El 29/03/16 a las 00:58, Edward Bartolo escribió:
I found using the return value of a function makes code much more
>readable and probably more reliable. Multiple return values can be
>encapsulated inside a structure which would be retur
Didier Kryn writes:
> Le 24/05/2016 12:50, Jaromil a écrit :
> > >>Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
> >[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping.
> >
>>> >
>>> >No idea what that means. I like emacs for text editing and don't use it
>>> >for anything
>i've built linux-libre-4.3.5 in 686, 686-pae and amd64 architectures, and
shortly i'll share the beta of Gnuinos. Give me one week...
Great! Looking forward to it.
Antonio
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:01 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi Antonio,
>
> El 25/05/16 a las 16:25, "Antonio Trkdz.tab"
> escr
Didier Kryn writes:
> Le 25/05/2016 16:25, Antonio Trkdz.tab a écrit :
>> Thank you Didier and Urban.
>>
>> >I think you can compile your kernel with any version of gcc 3, 4 or
>> 5, but take care of the C library. The libc used by your OS (ie
>> glibc) must be compiled with the kernel headers for
https://wiki.debian.org/Suspend
Debian Wheezy (7)
A very notable change is that HAL is phased out. If you still have the
hal package
installed, you should remove it or it will interference with pm-utils during
suspend.
If the suspend / resume works well on your system, you are lucky and no
need
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 04:19:23PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > The kernel doesn't make any call to the glibc; it is the
> > opposite: when running the new kernel, the userland invokes the
> > glibc all the time, and this glibc makes system-calls to the new
> > kernel, and there are some changes i
On 05/24/2016 02:06 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
Is there a link to an instruction how to use (and setup) openrc
together with sysvinit?
I'd like to use openrc as a tool to administrate daemons and services
since i find it a lot more "logical" (easy?).
TRIOS Mia is fully functional Debian j
On 05/25/2016 08:49 AM, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote:
>
> Can you suggest a lazier solution (like pre-compiled packages)?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Antonio
>
Lazier:
apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-4.5.0...
-fsr
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On Wed, 25 May 2016 11:40:27 -0400, Steve wrote in message
<20160525114027.64eb3...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
> On Wed, 25 May 2016 07:56:57 +0200
> wrote:
>
> > Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it
> > shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu at least in former times) it was no
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2016 11:40:27 -0400, Steve wrote in message
> <20160525114027.64eb3...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
>
> > On Wed, 25 May 2016 07:56:57 +0200
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it
> > > shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu
On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:06:33 +0200
wrote:
> Is there a link to an instruction how to use (and setup) openrc
> together with sysvinit?
>
> I'd like to use openrc as a tool to administrate daemons and services
> since i find it a lot more "logical" (easy?).
Before you do this, allow me to ask y
On 05/26/2016 01:23 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
capability of respawning daemons that crash? OpenRC can't do that.
OpenRC *can* do that:
---
Automatic respawning crashed services
---
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC
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Adam Borowski escribió:
[...]
Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You want
atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went completely bonkers.
It's still gnomey but to a far more acceptable degree.
I installed okular (and its dependences) and it works perf
Le 25/05/2016 18:55, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
Linux has the nice policy of never changing a public ABI, hence, there's
no problem in this respect
Good to know. Although this is not true for kernel internals (if
you write or maintain a driver) and it obviously cannot apply to new
features
Hi,
I am a user of SLIM. What is wrong with it? I read that it is not
being actively developed. Does it mean a project has to be
continuously developed to be used? Aren't bug reports and bug fixes
NOT enough?
Software development is like a developing animal. While growing an
animal is in rapid de
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