On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 08:38:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2016 01:18:34 +0200
> Florian Zieboll wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 15 May 2016 23:22:07 +0200
> > Jaromil wrote:
> >
> > > prevarication, violence, misery and corruption
> >
> > Depending on one's personal history,
>
> Let
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 08:03:58AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 08:38:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 May 2016 01:18:34 +0200
> > Florian Zieboll wrote:
> > > On Sun, 15 May 2016 23:22:07 +0200
> > > Jaromil wrote:
> > > > prevarication, violence, misery and corrup
Am Sun, 15 May 2016 21:45:10 +
schrieb Steve Litt :
[ . . . ]
> Hi emninger,
>
> Could you please alter email subjects to reflect what you're actually
> replying to? It helps those of us receiving the message to track
> threads (client threading doesn't always work as expected) and to
> sear
As for me, i understand those who are hurted by the use of the term
mafia (one half of my family is from "there" ;) ), but i also
understand the may be improper but innocent use of that term in
a different social and cultural context.
May be it's a good way to try to understand the reasons of the
Le 16/05/2016 11:31, emnin...@riseup.net a écrit :
Am Sun, 15 May 2016 21:45:10 +
schrieb Steve Litt :
You're absolutely right. It was just one or two mails that "escaped"
before i had checked, if all was correct. I wouldn't disagree, to
moderate them out.
My only excuse is, that i'm on a
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 11:39:38AM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> As for me, i understand those who are hurted by the use of the term
> mafia (one half of my family is from "there" ;) ), but i also
> understand the may be improper but innocent use of that term in
> a different social and cultu
On Mon, 16 May 2016, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> As for the rest, i'd be interested in what you think about the
> content of that discussion.
I think it minimizes the problem systemd brings to Debian and the
problem the current Debian leadership has with its own constituency.
I sincerely wish th
Hi,
Jaromil wrote:
<< some of us are from places in which that word means prevarication,
violence, misery and corruption. I've never been entertained by such a
name, not even when it was about slackware packages. very bad taste.
>>
+Infinity
Edward
On 16/05/2016, Jaromil wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Ma
On Sun, 15 May 2016, Steve Litt wrote:
> Rick has held the linuxmafia.com domain since at least 1999:
thanks for the explanation Steve. I'm airing a personal irritation
which is almost two decades old, as I used linuxmafia.org back when I
was using Slackware and Debian didn't even existed. I'm gla
Am Mon, 16 May 2016 10:54:45 +
schrieb Didier Kryn :
> Cheers emniner,
>
> My exasperation isn't that much against the authors of emails
> with bad subject, but rather against the junk software which produces
> that (I'm curious about by which mechanism). Moderating them out
> would
Hi,
I think, it is not about the term "linuxmafia" offending our feelings
but rather the bad connotations it brings with Linux. Linux is exactly
the opposite of oppression and abuse: Linux is about freedom.
Edward
On 16/05/2016, Jaromil wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2016, Steve Litt wrote:
>> Rick ha
KatolaZ, FYI, I noticed your iso has empty /dev and a patched
/usr/share/initramfs-tools/init (and uses an older
refracta-snapshot)..
That patch was a workaround in refracta-snapshot for bug(s) which only
last week got officially noted. The original file is still there but
renamed (this only affec
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 01:15:40PM +0100, David Hare wrote:
> KatolaZ, FYI, I noticed your iso has empty /dev and a patched
> /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init (and uses an older
> refracta-snapshot)..
>
> That patch was a workaround in refracta-snapshot for bug(s) which only
> last week got officia
I get the reluctance to mix dists. It's also not good to patch sytem
components without good reason (there was in that case)
However, live-* has always been a special case, designed to be
back-compatible and not have other "unstable deps". They even said
they won't support anyone using older versi
On Sun, 15 May 2016 22:54:33 -0400
". fsmithred" wrote:
> Florian,
>
> Thanks! I tried pinning backports like that a few weeks ago, and it
> didn't work. I thought it was due to changes in the way pinning is
> done. I don't think I ever would have figured that one out on my own.
> Does the pinni
On 05/16/2016 05:12 AM, Jaromil wrote:
To all those who think this and other similar approaches may
invalidate the need of our fork: please consider we are not just
forking Debian because of systemd, but because the people who have
taken over the leadership of that distro have betrayed its mand
I spended today some time to setup a Devuan version from my webradio on
a RPi2 and have 3 remarks.
- had to add module snd_bcm2835 manually
- had to add alsa manually
- icecast2 asks for configuration parameters but does not save them
(is most likely not Devuan related but ask here
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 03:33:18PM +0200, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote:
> I spended today some time to setup a Devuan version from my webradio
> on a RPi2 and have 3 remarks.
>
> - had to add module snd_bcm2835 manually
> - had to add alsa manually
> - icecast2 asks for configurat
On Mon, 16 May 2016, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote:
> I spended today some time to setup a Devuan version from my webradio on a
> RPi2 and have 3 remarks.
>
> - had to add module snd_bcm2835 manually
> - had to add alsa manually
> - icecast2 asks for configuration parameters but d
On 16-05-16 15:59, parazyd wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2016, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote:
I spended today some time to setup a Devuan version from my webradio on a
RPi2 and have 3 remarks.
- had to add module snd_bcm2835 manually
- had to add alsa manually
- icecast2 asks for co
On Mon, 16 May 2016 11:31:11 +0200
wrote:
> PS. You didn't answer if it would be a reasonable effort to create a
> JWM based desktop as an option for devuan ... :)
I don't have an opinion on that. If I really loved JWM to death, I
might make such a package. Or I might just compile from upstream
On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:12:20 +0200
Jaromil wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2016, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
>
> > As for the rest, i'd be interested in what you think about the
> > content of that discussion.
>
> I think it minimizes the problem systemd brings to Debian and the
> problem the current
+1 JWM ;)
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Steve Litt
wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2016 11:31:11 +0200
> wrote:
>
>
> > PS. You didn't answer if it would be a reasonable effort to create a
> > JWM based desktop as an option for devuan ... :)
>
> I don't have an opinion on that. If I really loved J
On Mon, 16 May 2016 08:26:11 -0500
dev wrote:
> On 05/16/2016 05:12 AM, Jaromil wrote:
> > To all those who think this and other similar approaches may
> > invalidate the need of our fork: please consider we are not just
> > forking Debian because of systemd, but because the people who have
> > t
KatolaZ wrote:
> I am working instead to include a runlevel with support for espeakout
> and brltty, which will require just a few megabytes and will be far
> more useful than zenity.
Glad to hear of this. I consider that support for the blind linux user community
should be a high priority.
> HN
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