[DNG] Installer console on tty2?

2016-05-10 Thread KatolaZ
Dear Devuaners, this is just a very minor thing. I was installing our beloved Devuan Jessie on a qemu image, for testing purposes, using expert mode net install. I wanted to switch to the console which shows the progression made by the installer, including package installation and configuration. U

Re: [DNG] Installer console on tty2?

2016-05-10 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 03:02:48PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > Dear Devuaners, > > this is just a very minor thing. I was installing our beloved Devuan > Jessie on a qemu image, for testing purposes, using expert mode net > install. I wanted to switch to the console which shows the progression > made

Re: [DNG] Installer console on tty2?

2016-05-10 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 04:35:08PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 03:02:48PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > Dear Devuaners, > > > > this is just a very minor thing. I was installing our beloved Devuan > > Jessie on a qemu image, for testing purposes, using expert mode net > > inst

[DNG] Mailing list subscription: was hashtag retarded

2016-05-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 10 May 2016 07:01:40 +0200 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > The solution to block off all trolls is easy especially for system > administrators. Make posting to the mailing list only accessible to > members that are registered in a member list. Isn't it that way already? What mailin

Re: [DNG] Troll Response

2016-05-10 Thread Herb Garcia
Enemies? Adversary? There is no real adversary here. Just different people with different solutions (of unequal quality) for different problems and use cases. Then again, some are just plain wrong. ;-) Devuan is a fork, for a road that means taking a different direction. It isn't a war. Troll

Re: [DNG] Installer console on tty2?

2016-05-10 Thread Don Wright
KatolaZ wrote: >On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 04:35:08PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> Can you use Alt+arrow keys to change consoles? Or qemu's ”sendkey” >> feature? >> > >Oh, sure I can, and this is how I got around it. I was just suggesting >that changing this "default" might be useful in some occ

Re: [DNG] Installer console on tty2?

2016-05-10 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:49:42AM -0500, Don Wright wrote: [cut] > > The installer is a key component of Debian as a distro, and historically > has determined much of the "what and when" for a new release. Does > Devuan really want to further marginalize its potential user base by > maintaining

Re: [DNG] Installer console on tty2?

2016-05-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:49:42AM -0500, Don Wright wrote: > KatolaZ wrote: > > >On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 04:35:08PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >> Can you use Alt+arrow keys to change consoles? Or qemu's ”sendkey” > >> feature? > >> > > > >Oh, sure I can, and this is how I got around it. I w

Re: [DNG] Installer console on tty2?

2016-05-10 Thread Don Wright
Hendrik Boom wrote: >Once the Debian installer starts setting a lot of stuff up for the >benefit of systemd, we're going to have to have a fork. At that point, >the only question is whether we want to marginalize the potential user >base. I think that would be still a bad idea. Indeed most D

[DNG] File /etc/debian_version

2016-05-10 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
According to https://devuan.org/os/packages/base-files page when I install the devuan4 basis-files_8 + package I should install the /etc/debian_version file, but this does not happen when I install devuan-jessie-i386-alpha4 -netboot.iso This has been fixed in the beta or still does not install

Re: [DNG] File /etc/debian_version

2016-05-10 Thread Paweł Cholewiński
This issue is created here https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/base-files/issues/20 In beta (amd64) is still /etc/debian_version file only without /etc/devuan_version. In my opinion (take into account maintenance of other packages which are dependent on /etc/debian_version) at this stage symbol

Re: [DNG] File /etc/debian_version

2016-05-10 Thread Paweł Cholewiński
Sorry, I write again, This issue is created here https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/base-files/issues/20 In beta (amd64) is still /etc/devuan_version file only without /etc/debian_version. In my opinion (take into account maintenance of other packages which are dependent on /etc/debian_versio

Re: [DNG] File /etc/debian_version

2016-05-10 Thread Daniel Reurich
This will be fixed later today. On 11/05/16 09:55, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > According to https://devuan.org/os/packages/base-files page when I > install the devuan4 basis-files_8 + package I should install the > /etc/debian_version file, but this does not happen when I install > devuan-jess

Re: [DNG] Mailing list subscription: was hashtag retarded

2016-05-10 Thread dev1fanboy
Agree with that, the best way is to filter or disregard it. The more people filter it out the less disruptive trolling becomes. Spending any serious time on trolls is like an invitation for them to come back and cause more disruption (if only to distract the admin). Cheers, chillfan On Tuesda

Re: [DNG] Debian is dropping support for i586. Are we?

2016-05-10 Thread bcnjr5
On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 12:17:31AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: Reverting this in a derivative is possible, although it lands you pretty much exactly in Raspbian's position. The result will be one-way compatibility: your packages will run on any Debian-compatible system but importing from Debian

[DNG] devuan-sdk

2016-05-10 Thread Ozi Traveller
Hi I did a an install and setup up last night in a vm, and I need to install a couple of packages that weren't in the instructions: git-core, zsh. I managed to get sdk-init to work, after some fiddling. I did sdk-chroot-arch amd64 which looked successful, but sdk-chroot-build failed with errors.

Re: [DNG] devuan-sdk

2016-05-10 Thread Jaromil
On Wed, 11 May 2016, Ozi Traveller wrote: >I did a an install and setup up last night in a vm, and I need to install >a couple of packages that weren't in the instructions: git-core, zsh. ACK. will add those >I managed to get sdk-init to work, after some fiddling. > >I did sdk-c