Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev - compilation errors and patch

2016-03-22 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/03/2016 16:12, shraptor a écrit : On 2016-03-21 16:04, shraptor wrote: On 2016-03-20 20:57, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 20/03/2016 19:14, shraptor a écrit : I expect Jude has tested his last version and I suspect he did it with the files under /usr/local and it worked. On my side, I tested

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Mitt, On 03/21/2016 09:58 PM, Mitt Green wrote: Two minor annoyance issues, >and one curiosity, in today's install of >devuan-cli: [...] >1] sudo is not installed by default ‎ Last time I installed Debian (it was Wheezy probably a year ago), I didn't see sudo in the default Xfce installa

Re: [DNG] Devuan grub files

2016-03-22 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016, Boruch Baum wrote: > On that note, I'll chime in and say that I hate the red greeter > screen of the installer. CenturionDan also reported that the theme is causing problems to the cd-installer so we'll likely drop it for a good old text terminal. thanks for your insights c

Re: [DNG] Devuan grub files

2016-03-22 Thread Boruch Baum
Oh, I Just remembered something else! When navigating the installer boot menu, every time one changes a menu level, say from "advanced options" back to the main menu, the installer issues a loud audible beep. This audible bell is also sounded when the boot menu first loads. I'd suggest removing tha

Re: [DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-22 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
One of the biggest improvements I'd like to see in the installer in general, including the netboot installer, is the ability to easily install a newer version than the ISO was created for. I know it can be done manually with debootstrap, and such, but being able to "self-update" the entire installa

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev - compilation errors and patch

2016-03-22 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Didier, On 03/22/2016 12:06 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: kryn@apcnb98:~/Applications/vdev-plus/vdev$ gcc --version gcc (Debian 4.6.3-14) 4.6.3 Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHAN

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev - compilation errors and patch

2016-03-22 Thread shraptor
On 2016-03-22 09:10, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 21/03/2016 16:12, shraptor a écrit : On 2016-03-21 16:04, shraptor wrote: On 2016-03-20 20:57, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 20/03/2016 19:14, shraptor a écrit : I expect Jude has tested his last version and I suspect he did it with the files under /usr/l

Re: [DNG] What can be improved in this Makefile?

2016-03-22 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Edward Bartolo writes: > Hi Rainer, > > Thanks for trying to help me. > > Rainer wrote: > --- > SRC := src > TMP := tmp > SRCS := auxiliaries.c signal_functions.c main_gui.c dialog_gui.c > sn-lightweight.c > OBJS := $(addprefix $(TMP)/, $(SRCS:.c=.o)) > > sn-lightweight

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Mitt Green
aitor_czr wrote:‎ > If you leave empty root's password, > the user created during the installation > will have sudo permissions and then > sudo will be installed. But who would ever leave their root password empty? I actually prefer to add a user after the installation and initial setup of the p

Re: [DNG] Devuan grub files

2016-03-22 Thread Daniel Reurich
Hi Boruch, On 22/03/16 12:40, Boruch Baum wrote: > The devuan grub package contains debian-ized files: > > 1] /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme > > This file could be renamed devuan_theme, but some of the current content > would need to be changed or removed. It currently includes a case > statement f

Re: [DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-22 Thread Daniel Reurich
Hi Stephanie On 23/03/16 00:05, Stephanie Daugherty wrote: > One of the biggest improvements I'd like to see in the installer in > general, including the netboot installer, is the ability to easily > install a newer version than the ISO was created for. I know it can be > done manually with deboot

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 23/03/16 04:23, Mitt Green wrote: > aitor_czr wrote:‎ > >> If you leave empty root's password, >> the user created during the installation >> will have sudo permissions and then >> sudo will be installed. > whether you wan to create a root password is prompted for in the installation. If you

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Daniel Reurich writes: > On 23/03/16 04:23, Mitt Green wrote: >> aitor_czr wrote:‎ >> >>> If you leave empty root's password, >>> the user created during the installation >>> will have sudo permissions and then >>> sudo will be installed. >> > whether you wan to create a root password is prompte

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev - compilation errors and patch

2016-03-22 Thread aitor_czr
On 03/22/2016 04:35 PM, shraptor wrote: With > gcc --version gcc (GCC) 5.2.0 ... and then git clonehttps://github.com/jcnelson/vdev I get https://gist.github.com/suedi/71d374d6f7925c5999e9#file-vdevd_compilation_output with no errors when issuing make -C vdevd and then tried git c

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Mitt Green
Daniel Reurich wrote: > *buntu users apparently.. *buntu users use *buntu :) > Indeed. And you have that option to > skip creating users in the "expert > install" method. So, this "expert install" has much more capabilities, why isn't it the default one? Mitt _

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev - compilation errors and patch

2016-03-22 Thread aitor_czr
On 03/22/2016 05:01 PM, aitor_czr wrote: On 03/22/2016 04:35 PM, shraptor wrote: With > gcc --version gcc (GCC) 5.2.0 ... and then git clonehttps://github.com/jcnelson/vdev I get https://gist.github.com/suedi/71d374d6f7925c5999e9#file-vdevd_compilation_output with no errors when i

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev - compilation errors and patch

2016-03-22 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 22/03/2016 15:41, shraptor a écrit : Where did you put your patches? This is corrected by my first patch, include-sysmacros.diff The two other patches allow the user to provide additional CFLAGS and/or LDFLAGS to better control building, for example to build statically or to provide libra

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev - compilation errors and patch

2016-03-22 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 22/03/2016 17:01, aitor_czr a écrit : On 03/22/2016 04:35 PM, shraptor wrote: With > gcc --version gcc (GCC) 5.2.0 ... and then git clonehttps://github.com/jcnelson/vdev I get https://gist.github.com/suedi/71d374d6f7925c5999e9#file-vdevd_compilation_output with no errors when iss

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev - compilation errors and patch

2016-03-22 Thread shraptor
On 2016-03-22 19:06, aitor_czr wrote: On 03/22/2016 05:01 PM, aitor_czr wrote: On 03/22/2016 04:35 PM, shraptor wrote: With gcc --version gcc (GCC) 5.2.0 ... and then git clone https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev I get https://gist.github.com/suedi/71d374d6f7925c5999e9#file-vdevd_compil

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 07:13:50PM +0300, Mitt Green wrote: > Daniel Reurich wrote: > > > *buntu users apparently.. > > *buntu users use *buntu :) > > > Indeed. And you have that option to > > skip creating users in the "expert > > install" method. > > So, this "expert install" has much > more

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Mitt Green
Hendrik Boom wrote: > Because most users aren't experts, > and those who are can usually figure > out how to choose the expert install. > After all, they are experts. Yes, but, at the end of the day, isn't Devuan supposed to be a distribution for those "experts"? "Most users", I reckon, don't ca

[DNG] laptop lid switch

2016-03-22 Thread Mike Schmitz
I think I remember this being discussed before on this list, but I couldn't find it in the archives. I apologize in advance if... I installed alpha4 on my AspireOne over the weekend. I got suspend working as a user with tweaks to polkit, and it shows up as an option in the XFCE Power Manager dialo

[DNG] audio died again

2016-03-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
My system is an old ASUS netbook. I installed devuan alpha 2 when it was current, and have upgraded it regularly. It should be an up-to-date devuan jessie, modulo a few days. I've had sound working on this system. Long ago, with debian all I got was laptop loudspeaker sound. When I switched

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 03:53:26PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Daniel Reurich writes: > > whether you wan to create a root password is prompted for in the > > installation. If you choose not to then sudo will be installed > > otherwise not. > > This seems a bit arbitrary: System I manage usu

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 23/03/16 11:35, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 03:53:26PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Daniel Reurich writes: >>> whether you wan to create a root password is prompted for in the >>> installation. If you choose not to then sudo will be installed >>> otherwise not. >> >> Thi

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:44:24PM +0300, Mitt Green wrote: > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Because most users aren't experts, > > and those who are can usually figure > > out how to choose the expert install. > > After all, they are experts. > > Yes, but, at the end of the day, isn't Devuan > suppo

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Adam Borowski writes: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 03:53:26PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Daniel Reurich writes: >> > whether you wan to create a root password is prompted for in the >> > installation. If you choose not to then sudo will be installed >> > otherwise not. >> >> This seems a bit

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:44:30AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 23/03/16 11:35, Adam Borowski wrote: > > I hope you know that, since jessie, password remote logins for root are > > disabled unless you enable them yourself. > > > I think this is problematic and should be prompted for during th

Re: [DNG] audio died again

2016-03-22 Thread Joel Roth
Hi Hendrik, Hendrik Boom wrote: > My system is an old ASUS netbook. > > I installed devuan alpha 2 when it was current, and have upgraded it > regularly. It should be an up-to-date devuan jessie, modulo a few > days. > > I've had sound working on this system. > > Long ago, with debian all I

Re: [DNG] audio died again

2016-03-22 Thread Rob
Original Message Subject: [DNG] audio died again Local Time: 22 March 2016 9:12 PM UTC Time: 22 March 2016 21:12 From: hend...@topoi.pooq.com To: dng@lists.dyne.org My system is an old ASUS netbook. I installed devuan alpha 2 when it was current, and have upgraded it regularly.

Re: [DNG] audio died again AND GOT RESURRECTED.

2016-03-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:57:02PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > Hi Hendrik, > > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > My system is an old ASUS netbook. > > > > I installed devuan alpha 2 when it was current, and have upgraded it > > regularly. It should be an up-to-date devuan jessie, modulo a few > > days. >

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev - compilation errors and patch

2016-03-22 Thread aitor_czr
On 03/22/2016 11:44 PM, shraptor wrote: I cloned latest from github.com/jcnelson/libpstat github.com/jcnelson/fskit and github.com/jcnelson/vdev did make make install on all three consequtively All built without errors for me and that includes vdevfs Thanks, i will try tomorrow :)

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Adam Borowski writes: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:44:30AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: >> On 23/03/16 11:35, Adam Borowski wrote: >> > I hope you know that, since jessie, password remote logins for root are >> > disabled unless you enable them yourself. >> > >> I think this is problematic and sh

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-22 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 23/03/16 12:02, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:44:30AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: >> On 23/03/16 11:35, Adam Borowski wrote: >>> I hope you know that, since jessie, password remote logins for >>> root are disabled unless you enable them yourself. >>> >> I think this is prob

Re: [DNG] audio died again AND GOT RESURRECTED.

2016-03-22 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 3/22/16, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] audio died again AND GOT RESURRECTED. To: "Joel Roth" , dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 6:14 PM On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:57:02PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: >> Hi Hendrik, >> >> It's worth verifying that you don't h

Re: [DNG] audio died again AND GOT RESURRECTED.

2016-03-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:42:11AM +, Go Linux wrote: > On Tue, 3/22/16, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Subject: Re: [DNG] audio died again AND GOT RESURRECTED. > To: "Joel Roth" , dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 6:14 PM > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:57:02PM > -1000, Joel Ro

Re: [DNG] installer messes up swap partition on multi-boot

2016-03-22 Thread Daniel Reurich
Hi Boruch, On 22/03/16 09:29, Boruch Baum wrote: > On today's install device, I had a pre-existing linux with a swap > partition on the disk, and the partitioner insisted on re-formatting it. > This is BAD. It changes the UUID of the swap partition, which messes up > the other operating systems

Re: [DNG] installer messes up swap partition on multi-boot

2016-03-22 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 3/22/16, Daniel Reurich wrote: > > Given that suspend2disk uses > the swap volume I'd recommend never using the same swap space for > different linux systems anyway in a multi-boot setup. > Now I'm confused. I thought that suspend used RAM

Re: [DNG] laptop lid switch

2016-03-22 Thread Jaromil
dear Mike, thanks for your small reminder on the lid suspend! we'll try to collect such short howtos on the https://talk.devuan.org website in the close future (while this list will stay for the general discussion of the DNG community), so if you are not too web forum adverse (which we can under

Re: [DNG] installer messes up swap partition on multi-boot

2016-03-22 Thread Boruch Baum
On 03/23/2016 12:19 AM, Daniel Reurich wrote: > Hi Boruch, Good morning! > > On 22/03/16 09:29, Boruch Baum wrote: >> On today's install device, I had a pre-existing linux with a swap >> partition on the disk, and the partitioner insisted on >> re-formatting it. > > >> This is BAD. It changes

Re: [DNG] installer messes up swap partition on multi-boot

2016-03-22 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 23 March 2016 6:01:23 PM NZDT, Go Linux wrote: >On Tue, 3/22/16, Daniel Reurich wrote: > >> >> Given that suspend2disk uses >> the swap volume I'd recommend never using the same swap space for >> different linux systems anyway in a multi-boot setup. >> > >--

Re: [DNG] installer messes up swap partition on multi-boot

2016-03-22 Thread Boruch Baum
On 03/23/2016 01:01 AM, Go Linux wrote: > On Tue, 3/22/16, Daniel Reurich wrote: > >> >> Given that suspend2disk uses the swap volume I'd recommend never >> using the same swap space for different linux systems anyway in a >> multi-boot setup. >> > > -