Re: [DNG] OT de.wikipedia

2016-03-07 Thread Mitt Green
Michael schrieb: >Liebe Mitstreiter, >könntet ihr bitte den Artikel devuan in >https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devuan >anschauen, ergänzen, überarbeiten? Wikipedia ist die freie Enzyklopädie, also du kannst den Artikel zu schreiben. Übrigens, der Artikel [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devuan] enthält Hä

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-03-07 Thread anon . udmvt
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 02:38:56PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 03:22:27PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > Katolaz, don't you recall how many times we've read about "The > > year of the Linux Desktop", which never happened? And don't you > > remember Gnome 3

Re: [DNG] Claywand dosplay bananager

2016-03-07 Thread Simon Hobson
Teodoro Santoni wrote: >> What did they replace X11 forwarding with? (I shudder to ask) > > Nothing afaik. That would be the "we don't use it, therefore we don't care if anyone else uses it - we'll just declare it broken behaviour and drop it" approach to backwards compatibility. Rainer We

[DNG] My virtual terminals seem amiss

2016-03-07 Thread dev
Hello, I noticed today, upon trying to rebuild my nvidia module, that I have no login available on the virtual terminals customarily available via the keypress [CTRL][ALT]+(F1-F8 keys). The keypresses work, showing console output, but there is no "login:" /etc/inittab is here: $ egrep -v '(#

Re: [DNG] Claywand dosplay bananager

2016-03-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Simon Hobson writes: [...] > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >>> Is that what I get with ssh -X? I've noticed it's sometimes quite klunky. >> >> ssh -X is basically 'straight X' but with the protocol traffic >> transparently forwarded over the SSH connection and some convenience >> features like "se

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future (Open Source's future also)

2016-03-07 Thread anon . udmvt
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 03:52:19PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > This is sad, especially in the context that at one point the GNOME/GTK > developers didn't know or care about apps outside of their project: [...] > It is telling that a developer of software > ostensibly for the Linux desktop is una

Re: [DNG] Claywand dosplay bananager

2016-03-07 Thread Teodoro Santoni
2016-03-06 21:33 GMT+01:00, Rainer Weikusat : > Not at all, actually. VNC based on keeping two bitmapped displays in > sync by sending by sending 'bitmap updates' from the remote machine to > 'the local display'. Even in a LAN environment (disclaimer: Haven't used > it since 2004) this is a clunky

Re: [DNG] My virtual terminals seem amiss

2016-03-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
dev writes: > Hello, > I noticed today, upon trying to rebuild my nvidia module, that I have > no login available on the virtual terminals customarily available via > the keypress [CTRL][ALT]+(F1-F8 keys). > > The keypresses work, showing console output, but there is no "login:" > > /etc/inittab i

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL (Was: Claywand dosplay bananager)

2016-03-07 Thread Simon Hobson
Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> I disagree. I've used remote X forwarding many times, and found it ran >> "quite nicely" with 400kbps upstream from my home ADSL. Obviously it >> depends what you are doing, and "graphics intensive" stuff slows >> enormously, but for anything "text and widgets" based it'

[DNG] Is Devuan Jessie secure enough?

2016-03-07 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, As I am slowly converting my installation into Devuan, I would like to ask what others use to access their bank accounts, to pay bills only and other money related activities. Until now I have used Debian Wheezy. Is DEVUAN secure enough for financial transactions? If Devuan has adequate secur

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-03-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 17:16:32 +0400 anon.ud...@subscribed.udmvt.ru wrote: > For example, my friends are split: > the older generations are looking for a viable alternative for a > migration, or have already migrated (FreeBSD, yes) their desktops and > servers, the young generation can't comprehend

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-03-07 Thread Simon Hobson
Steve Litt wrote: > Why this is important is that, to the extent this is perceived as an > age thing (with the must-have pejorative "neckbeard" or "graybeard"), > you give PoetterPoser more credibility when he characterizes systemd > resistance as "you can't teach an old dog new tricks." Indeed,

Re: [DNG] My virtual terminals seem amiss

2016-03-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:40:02 -0600 dev wrote: > Hello, > I noticed today, upon trying to rebuild my nvidia module, that I have > no login available on the virtual terminals customarily available via > the keypress [CTRL][ALT]+(F1-F8 keys). > > The keypresses work, showing console output, but ther

Re: [DNG] My virtual terminals seem amiss

2016-03-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 12:28:12PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:40:02 -0600 > dev wrote: > > > Hello, > > I noticed today, upon trying to rebuild my nvidia module, that I have > > no login available on the virtual terminals customarily available via > > the keypress [CTRL][ALT

[DNG] Accessibility: Does the devuan installer default to ALSA?

2016-03-07 Thread Joel Roth
Hi Devuan, I'm following the blinux mailing list, for blind users of Linux, and there is a report of someone having trouble with pulse audio. So that leads me to ask, will devuan default to ALSA in the installer and base installation? I'm also curious if ALSA is sufficient for the various screen r

Re: [DNG] Claywand dosplay bananager

2016-03-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Mar 06, 2016 at 10:06:18PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > ssh -X is basically 'straight X' but with the protocol traffic > transparently forwarded over the SSH connection and some convenience > features like "setting up a suitable DISPLAY" and > "handling MIT magic cookie authentication

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL (Was: Claywand dosplay bananager)

2016-03-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 04:57:28PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: It's a *fact* that I found X via SSH with only 400kbps upstream from the far end quite workable as long as there weren't bitmaps involved. For text work it was "like being there" for me as I remember - can't check Äh, why do you ne

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Stephan Seitz writes: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 04:57:28PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: >> It's a *fact* that I found X via SSH with only 400kbps upstream from >> the far end quite workable as long as there weren't bitmaps >> involved. For text work it was "like being there" for me as I >> remember

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 06:50:26PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: That's a non-sequitur: You need more bandwidth than usually available outside of a LAN as soon as you start using "misbehaving applications" (like Firefox or Wireshark) who effectively (by virtue of the toolkit they using) use the X

Re: [DNG] Claywand dosplay bananager

2016-03-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Sun, Mar 06, 2016 at 10:06:18PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> >> ssh -X is basically 'straight X' but with the protocol traffic >> transparently forwarded over the SSH connection and some convenience >> features like "setting up a suitable DISPLAY" and >> "handling MI

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-07 Thread Lars Noodén
On 03/07/2016 08:57 PM, Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 06:50:26PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> That's a non-sequitur: You need more bandwidth than usually available >> outside of a LAN as soon as you start using "misbehaving applications" >> (like Firefox or Wireshark) who effec

Re: [DNG] Accessibility: Does the devuan installer default to ALSA?

2016-03-07 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 08/03/16 06:45, Joel Roth wrote: > Hi Devuan, > > I'm following the blinux mailing list, for blind users of > Linux, and there is a report of someone having trouble with > pulse audio. So that leads me to ask, will devuan default to > ALSA in the installer and base installation? I'm also > curi

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL (Was: Claywand dosplay bananager)

2016-03-07 Thread Simon Hobson
Stephan Seitz wrote: > Äh, why do you need X11 forwarding for text work? For me text work is > shell/vi/mutt/screen. I’m using these programs daily without the need for X11 > forwarding. I don't, but sometimes it just happens that way. > And as far as I was told things like VNC or RDP are an

Re: [DNG] Is Devuan Jessie secure enough?

2016-03-07 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 08/03/16 06:09, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > As I am slowly converting my installation into Devuan, I would like to > ask what others use to access their bank accounts, to pay bills only > and other money related activities. I use iceweasel - on my wheezy laptop currently (but that's only b

Re: [DNG] OT: Assembly resources

2016-03-07 Thread Mitt Green
Here are even more: Info on SysV ABI: http://www.x86-64.org/documentation/abi.pdf amd64 registers: http://www.logix.cz/michal/devel/amd64-regs/ x86 opcode and instruction reference: http://ref.x86asm.net/ Thanks to genss from LQ. All links are collected in the thread on LQ: http://www.linuxque

Re: [DNG] My virtual terminals seem amiss

2016-03-07 Thread fsmithred
On 03/07/2016 09:40 AM, dev wrote: Hello, I noticed today, upon trying to rebuild my nvidia module, that I have no login available on the virtual terminals customarily available via the keypress [CTRL][ALT]+(F1-F8 keys). And this is /proc/cmdline. Nothing odd in there either: BOOT_IMAGE=/

Re: [DNG] Is Devuan Jessie secure enough?

2016-03-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 09:53:51AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 08/03/16 06:09, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > Hi, > > > > As I am slowly converting my installation into Devuan, I would like to > > ask what others use to access their bank accounts, to pay bills only > > and other money related act

Re: [DNG] Accessibility: Does the devuan installer default to ALSA?

2016-03-07 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 08/03/16 06:45, Joel Roth wrote: > > Hi Devuan, > > > > I'm following the blinux mailing list, for blind users of > > Linux, and there is a report of someone having trouble with > > pulse audio. So that leads me to ask, will devu

Re: [DNG] Strange NIC reconfiguration after Suspend in Devuan+XFCE

2016-03-07 Thread David Kuehling
> "Daniel" == Daniel Reurich writes: > On 07/03/16 16:22, David Kuehling wrote: >> Hi, >> >> just noticed that in Devuan after doing "Suspend" from the XFCE menu >> bar, my primary network interface is reconfigured with a new >> IP-Address retrieved via DHCP. DHCP server logs confirm that.

Re: [DNG] Is Devuan Jessie secure enough?

2016-03-07 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, Thanks for all your replies. So, it means Devuan is better than using Wheezy. Edward On 08/03/2016, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 09:53:51AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: >> On 08/03/16 06:09, Edward Bartolo wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > As I am slowly converting my installation

Re: [DNG] Accessibility: Does the devuan installer default to ALSA?

2016-03-07 Thread Joel Roth
Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: > > On 08/03/16 06:45, Joel Roth wrote: > > > Hi Devuan, > > > > > > I'm following the blinux mailing list, for blind users of > > > Linux, and there is a report of someone having trouble with > > > pulse audio.

Re: [DNG] Accessibility: Does the devuan installer default to ALSA?

2016-03-07 Thread Joel Roth
Joel Roth wrote: > > So supporting accessibility during > install may be in reach. https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility -- Joel Roth ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mai