Re: [DNG] OT: Assembly resources

2016-03-02 Thread Emiliano Marini
Honestly, I use yasm because it was Teacher's choice before I was a Teaching Assistant. Anyways, yasm supports gas and nasm syntax, and multiple binary object formats. yasm/nasm use a syntax similar to Intel's, and gas uses a syntax similar to AT&T. It's a matter of taste but, to me, AT&T it's less

[DNG] Dependency Hell: was leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:15:05 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > I hesitated to reply because I know my answer is politically > incorrect. "dependency hell" is the consequence of dynamic linkage. I > understand that dynamic linkage is a necessity for distros, but if > the concern is about one packag

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 11:41:46PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> "T.J. Duchene" writes: >> > On 2016-03-01 20:22, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> >> And I disgree with your assessment of this being "a simplified" >> description, instead of a fairly complicated and seriously d

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
"T.J. Duchene" writes: > On 2016-03-01 23:41, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> "T.J. Duchene" writes: >> > On 2016-03-01 20:22, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> >> "T.J. Duchene" writes: >> >> > On 03/01/2016 08:15 AM, dng-request@??? wrote: >> >> >> >> [...] >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'd just like to offer my opin

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 12:45:22PM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: [libdb4 & Bitcoin] >> The risk is that issues that have been fixed in later libdb versions >> remain broken in the version that bitcoin statically links in. So there >> is a trade off either way, and what is

Re: [DNG] Dependency Hell: was leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, On 02/03/2016, Steve Litt wrote: > I'm not recommending this for every app. But I've got to tell you, when > you think about installation by package manager, with its pinnings and > exclusions and dependencies and conflicts, not to mention sabotage of > packaging by the poetterists and their

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread T.J. Duchene
On 2016-03-02 16:20, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > The soname mechanism already provides an opportunity for having multiple > version of the same library installed as these cane use different > sonames but provide the same set of symbols. In addition to this, the > symbols themselves can be versioned

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Joel Roth
Hi Rainer, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > As I already wrote twice, program's aren't "linked" to dynamic libraries > at all. At link time, the sonames of required dynamic libaries are > recorded in the binary, > > [rw@doppelsaurus]~#readelf -d /bin/bash | grep -i needed > 0x0001 (NEEDED)

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread T.J. Duchene
Perhaps my greatest error was assuming that anyone one the list would need or even want a "dumbed down" explanation. In that case, it is most certainly a "mea culpa" on my part. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/c

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, I think, multiple libraries can still reside in an installation of Debian/Devuan, provided some preparation is done before attempting to run programs that may require conflicting library version. The only limitation is the kernel which has to be compatible with all used libraries. I would wor

Re: [DNG] OT: Assembly resources

2016-03-02 Thread Mitt Green
Thanks for the advice and the links, Emiliano. I appreciate it. Peace, Mitt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Digital camera management borked

2016-03-02 Thread Go Linux
I am having trouble finding a way to browse thumbnails of the photos on my old canon camera. gtkam couldn't access the camera. I installed my old favorite f-spot from wheezy (apparently not available in jessie), but it couldn't even see the camera. The only way I have been able to access the

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
"T.J. Duchene" writes: > On 2016-03-02 16:20, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> The soname mechanism already provides an opportunity for having multiple >> version of the same library installed as these cane use different >> sonames but provide the same set of symbols. In addition to this, the >> symbols

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked

2016-03-02 Thread Ron
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 20:50:35 + (UTC) Go Linux wrote: > I am having trouble finding a way to browse thumbnails of the photos on my > old canon camera. gtkam couldn't access the camera. I installed my old > favorite f-spot from wheezy (apparently not available in jessie), but it > couldn't

Re: [DNG] Dependency Hell: was leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
There's a fairly elegant, but seldom used solution to this problem,. GNU Stow, which is designed to basically be a "package manager" for locally installed packages. It works by using symlinks, so that a "package" foo might be installed into /usr/local/stow/foo and have bin/ and lib/ and all the o

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked

2016-03-02 Thread Mitt Green
There's Shotwell, that had been working for me for quite some time. It's a photo organiser, and may help. Mitt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Dependency Hell: was leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Mitt Green
‎Stephanie Daugherty wrote:‎ >There's a fairly elegant, but seldom used solution >to this problem,. GNU Stow, which is designed to >basically be a "package manager" for locally installed >packages. ‎ What about checkinstall? It can create a .deb package by checkinstall -D. So, instead of make inst

Re: [DNG] OT: Assembly resources

2016-03-02 Thread Emiliano Marini
You welcome. BTW: about debugging with ddd, you have the (huge) manual here http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/manual/pdf/ddd.pdf Or a nice quick guide here http://cs.smith.edu/~thiebaut/classes/231_0708/doc/quickstart.html Greetings, Emiliano. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Mitt Green wrote: >

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-03-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 03:05:10PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > But this already exists. Eg, the machine I usually use for development > (Debian 6 based) has the following version of libdb installed: > > ii libdb4.2 4.2.52+dfsg-5 Berkeley v4.2 Database Libraries > [runtime] > i

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked

2016-03-02 Thread Rob
Original Message Subject: [DNG] Digital camera management borked Local Time: March 2, 2016 8:50 pm UTC Time: March 2, 2016 8:50 PM From: goli...@yahoo.com To: dng@lists.dyne.org I am having trouble finding a way to browse thumbnails of the photos on my old canon camera. gtkam co

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked

2016-03-02 Thread Rob
Original Message Subject: Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked Local Time: March 2, 2016 9:59 pm UTC Time: March 2, 2016 9:59 PM From: nuisa...@protonmail.com To: dng@lists.dyne.org Original Message Subject: [DNG] Digital camera management borked Local T

Re: [DNG] OT: Assembly resources

2016-03-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 08:55:20AM -0300, Emiliano Marini wrote: > But be aware that gas is the one GCC uses for in-line assembly embedded in > C programs. So, if you are planning to embed assembly instructions in C > code, you will need to learn gas syntax. I've always wondered how the C code gen

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked

2016-03-02 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Mittwoch, 2. März 2016 schrieb Rob: > Original Message > Subject: Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked > Local Time: March 2, 2016 9:59 pm > UTC Time: March 2, 2016 9:59 PM > From: nuisa...@protonmail.com > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > > > > Original Message -

Re: [DNG] OT: Assembly resources

2016-03-02 Thread Emiliano Marini
Maybe the C compiler adjusts what registers to use for C code to avoid conflicts, or saves his registers on the stack before the assembly code. I'm just guessing, I never embed assembly code in C programs. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 08:55:20AM -

Re: [DNG] OT: Assembly resources

2016-03-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Emiliano Marini writes: > Maybe the C compiler adjusts what registers to use for C code to avoid > conflicts, or saves his registers on the stack before the assembly code. > I'm just guessing, I never embed assembly code in C programs. When using gcc inline assembly, one will usually either use n

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked [solved]

2016-03-02 Thread Go Linux
On Wed, 3/2/16, Rob wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2016, 3:59 PM > Original Message > Subject: Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked > Local Time: March 2, 2016 9:59 pm > UTC Time: March 2

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked

2016-03-02 Thread Go Linux
On Wed, 3/2/16, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2016, 4:22 PM Am Mittwoch, 2. März 2016 schrieb Rob: > Original Message > Subject: Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked > Loc

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked

2016-03-02 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Donnerstag, 3. März 2016 schrieb Go Linux: > On Wed, 3/2/16, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2016, 4:22 PM > > Am Mittwoch, 2. März 2016 schrieb Rob: > > Original Message --