Re: [DNG] Avoid 'git commit -m ...' every time code is tested after editing.

2016-02-16 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 09:35:55PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > > > Commit often. Branch whenever needed needed. Merge when it > > works. Release when "perfect" (the last one should be really > > considered with a pinch of salt :P). > > When a version is a release, don't you just give it

[DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
There's a recent discussion on the coreutils mailing list, where some people complained about the default ls output with latest release. On coreutils 8.25 ls will wrap filenames with quotes if it includes whitespace. And when people protest, the answers are usual arguments; it just happens on the

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Emiliano Marini
Great Scott! Introducing unwanted changes in packages containing the word "core", congratulations! This will break up 99% of the scripts out there... On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > There's a recent discussion on the coreutils mailing list, where some > people complai

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread dr . klepp
Am Dienstag, 16. Februar 2016 schrieb Aldemir Akpinar: > There's a recent discussion on the coreutils mailing list, where some > people complained about the default ls output with latest release. On > coreutils 8.25 ls will wrap filenames with quotes if it includes > whitespace. > > And when peopl

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Aldemir Akpinar writes: [...] > On coreutils 8.25 ls will wrap filenames with quotes if it includes > whitespace. > > And when people protest, the answers are usual arguments; it just happens > on the console output, or just add -N to your aliases etc. etc. [...] > When this version hits the d

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
> > > Hmm ... why do you think so? > > BTW: 'Console' and 'terminal' are two rather different things. > > Doesn't your init scripts run on the console? Or the scripts that run on the initial ram disk. Please correct me if I am wrong. -- aldemir ___ Dng m

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Emiliano Marini writes: Great Scott! Introducing unwanted changes in packages containing the word "core", congratulations! This will break up 99% of the scripts out there... Why? This won't break common code such as for a in *.xml; do ... What it breaks is rubbish such as for a i

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Emiliano Marini
For example, this willl break scripts parsig ls output. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > Emiliano Marini writes: > >> Great Scott! Introducing unwanted changes in packages containing the word >> "core", congratulations! >> >> This will break up 99% of the scripts out t

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Arnt Gulbrandsen writes: > Emiliano Marini writes: >> Great Scott! Introducing unwanted changes in packages containing the >> word "core", congratulations! >> >> This will break up 99% of the scripts out there... > > Why? > > This won't break common code such as > > for a in *.xml; do > ...

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Aldemir Akpinar writes: [...] >> BTW: 'Console' and 'terminal' are two rather different things. >> >> > Doesn't your init scripts run on the console? 'The system console' is an I/O device the kernel and scripts started during boot will use for "user interaction", ie, print output supposed to be

Re: [DNG] Avoid 'git commit -m ...' every time code is tested after editing.

2016-02-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 10:06:35 + KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 09:35:55PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > Commit often. Branch whenever needed needed. Merge when it > > > works. Release when "perfect" (the last one should be really > > > considered with a pinch of

Re: [DNG] Avoid 'git commit -m ...' every time code is tested after editing.

2016-02-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 19:47:37 +1300 Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 16 February 2016 3:35:55 PM NZDT, Steve Litt > wrote: > >When a version is a release, don't you just give it a tag? > > > Yes. But that is no excuse for not using private branches to develop > on. If you have to revert a commit y

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Mitt Green
No idea, why they did it, but anyway, who uses whitespaces in names of scripts? I always get rid of them even when naming wallpapers. Mitt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Emiliano Marini writes: For example, this willl break scripts parsig ls output. Will it? I spent a few minutes looking for scripts that might be broken. I did find one that acted on ls output, but it wasn't broken. Arnt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@l

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 16:07:35 +0200 Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > There's a recent discussion on the coreutils mailing list, where some > people complained about the default ls output with latest release. On > coreutils 8.25 ls will wrap filenames with quotes if it includes > whitespace. > > And when

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 07:51:47PM +0300, Mitt Green wrote: > No idea, why they did it, > but anyway, who uses whitespaces in > names of scripts? I always get > rid of them even when naming > wallpapers. script names: no. C/Pascal/COBOL sources: no. mp3/videos/ebooks/etc: hell yes. The change is

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Mitt Green
Adam Borowski wrote: >script names: no. >C/Pascal/COBOL sources: no. >mp3/videos/ebooks/etc: hell yes. [...] ‎ >The change is breaking valid use cases. I definitely understand the indignation, yet I can't imagine cases, where mp3/ebooks/ et al. are used in scripts. >The relevant bug is >https:

[DNG] Which Devuan alpha4 for vbox?

2016-02-16 Thread GoOSSBears
Wish to run an i386 Devuan alpha4 as a guest OS in VirtualBox's current v5.0.14[1], and under an i386 Linux-distro host. The Devuan download zone[2] currently lists the four possibilities for this as - devuan-jessie-i386-alpha4.box - devuan-jessie-i386-alpha4.qcow2 - devuan-jessie-i386-alpha4-ne

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Mitt Green
Adam Borowski wrote: >The relevant bug is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=813164 This lad, Pádraig, says, that it happens only when outputting to terminals. I wonder, where else you can output ls. And surely, pasting this back to anywhere, the result will be the same: unwanted

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Mitt Green writes: > Adam Borowski wrote: [...] >>script names: no. >>C/Pascal/COBOL sources: no. >>mp3/videos/ebooks/etc: hell yes. > > [...] > ‎ >>The change is breaking valid use cases. > > I definitely understand the indignation, > yet I can't imagine cases, where mp3/ebooks/ > et al. are us

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Mitt Green writes: This lad, Pádraig, says, that it happens only when outputting to terminals. I wonder, where else you can output ls. Pipes and files. This outputs to a pipe: ls | grep X This outputs to a slightly different pipe: for a in $(ls) ... This outputs to a file: ls > /tmp/

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Mitt Green
>Pipes and files. Oh, aye, how could I forget this :( ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-16 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
On Tuesday, 16 February 2016, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 16:07:35 +0200 > Aldemir Akpinar > wrote: > > > My response is unresponsive to your question, aldemir, but this is > something I've given lots of thought to in the past. I quote from the > referenced web page: > > =

Re: [DNG] Avoid 'git commit -m ...' every time code is tested after editing.

2016-02-16 Thread Simon Wise
On 17/02/16 03:38, Steve Litt wrote: Where would you suggest I find out more about the practicalities of git? I use it for my own stuff quite a bit, but don't know how to do branches and all that. look at: man gitworkflows that one is more about collaboration and a wider group of developers

Re: [DNG] Avoid 'git commit -m ...' every time code is tested after editing.

2016-02-16 Thread Simon Wise
On 17/02/16 13:38, Simon Wise wrote: On 17/02/16 03:38, Steve Litt wrote: Where would you suggest I find out more about the practicalities of git? I use it for my own stuff quite a bit, but don't know how to do branches and all that. look at: man gitworkflows that one is more about collabor