Greybeards. I think this could mean wise people. At least the
common sense is to expect the old people to have accumulated some wisdom.
The force which makes software development possible is, of course,
enthusiasm, but it needs some heading.
I am sure Poetering is very enthusiasti
Thank you, Simon.
I'll probably get my second degree as CS,
I'm currently in a different (non-tech) university.
I hope money we'll pay worth it. The good thing
is that you don't need to pass exams one more time,
they will only ask for an interview. And also it lasts three years
instead of four to
Sorry, sorry, SORRY...
Renaming the subject once again (broken your pencil furiously Steve)...
Hi all,
This thread is long... I've been busy these last days, and i need some
time to read it carefully.
There are interesting points of view.
Aitor.
On 11/13/2015 01:00 PM, Mitt Green wrote:
>
Hello,
I decided to try to switch to Devuan Jessie with KDE4 installed using
dev1fanboy instructions. As I know, KDE4 isn't either tested or
supported in Devuan right now, but it's interesting for me to try and
probably fix something.
I should say the whole process went just fine and I can use it
I suggest you to try this:
http://gnuinos.org/netman/ (packages for amd64)
Dowload the netman packages for your architecture and use dpkg -i to install.
netman is a network manager without dbus and systemd requirements. You
can also try wicd.
On 14/11/2015, 4ernov <4er...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hel
wicd is an excellent network manager that includes a KDE GUI:
# apt-get install wicd-kde
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Thank you for this suggestion, just tried netman and it really works just fine.
But my initial questions are still there if I'm write to notice that
network-manager is kind of 'default' package for desktop connection
management (sorry if I'm mistaken).
And, by the way, I've also seen an idea to a
Yes, thank you, that's nice solution, too.
2015-11-14 17:20 GMT+03:00 Brian Nash :
> wicd is an excellent network manager that includes a KDE GUI:
>
># apt-get install wicd-kde
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Didier Kryn writes:
[...]
> The force which makes software development possible is, of course,
> enthusiasm, but it needs some heading.
>
> I am sure Poetering is very enthusiastic regarding systemd and
> highjacking the whole OS. He is concious to be developping a new
> OS. But, what's
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:20:20 -0500
Brian Nash wrote:
> wicd is an excellent network manager that includes a KDE GUI:
>
> # apt-get install wicd-kde
And wicd is what Devuan (or at least Devuan Xfce) uses right out of the
box. And it works well.
SteveT
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:22:15 +0300
4ernov <4er...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> And I'd like to take a chance to say big thanks to all the
> >> developers for this efforts and wish Devuan project all the best.
I'm going to answer this question as an individual, which, while not
responsive to your quest
I remember Squeeze with Xfce was (is,
since it is still supported)
using it by default as well.
By the way, why not plain
wpa_supplicant? It's lightweight unlike
Wicd and is included on each Unix
system by default nowadays.
If necessary, there is a Qt interface for it
(wpa_gui).
Mitt
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dbus has its implementation in systemd already
http://0pointer.net/blog/the-new-sd-bus-api-of-systemd.html
What's next?
Mitt
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:22:15 +0300
4ernov <4er...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> And I'd like to t
I think he should change his name to
Lennart Cluttering.
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Yes, I'm really not against any of the alternatives, it's just that I
found the package installed by default back in Debian broken after the
transfer, noticed some efforts in git of fixing it, so I thought it's
me that I can't find it in the repository.
Surely if it's stated that e.g. wicd is pref
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 20:20:49 +0300
Mitt Green wrote:
> I think he should change his name to
> Lennart Cluttering.
Hey man, be careful of wisecracks like that. I almost broke a rib
laughing.
SteveT
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of the Successful Techn
Not sure if that was sarcasm though.
Anyway, why do we need dbus if we can live
without it?
I've seen these [1] cool figures explaining what it is
but neither them,
nor the article didn't give me the answer why it is
necessary.
Mitt
Reference:
[1]:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/common
Mitt Green writes:
> Not sure if that was sarcasm though.
>
> Anyway, why do we need dbus if we can live
> without it?
>
> I've seen these [1] cool figures explaining what it is
> but neither them,
> nor the article didn't give me the answer why it is
> necessary.
"Necessary" is a bit of a bad ca
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:36:08 +
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> D-BUS is an OO RPC system intended to enable long-running
> applications to call methods implemented by other long-running
> applications provided these other long-running applications run on the
> same computer.
Everybody ordering ar
wicd seems to work perfectly fine for me, although I mostly use the
ncurses and GTK interfaces.
I never did figure out (or remember) how to use wpa_supplicant, although
IIRC connecting to a wifi network is just two commands.
Darnit, now I'm going to spend my whole weekend re-learning it, only to
>> I never did figure out (or remember) how to use
>> wpa_supplicant, although
>> IIRC connecting to a wifi network is just two commands.
When using wpa_supplicant you have two commands as well.
Actual wpa_supplicant and DHCP.
man wpa_supplicant and man wpa_supplicant.conf
Instead of writing en
Le 14/11/2015 21:20, Brian Nash a écrit :
I never did figure out (or remember) how to use wpa_supplicant, although
IIRC connecting to a wifi network is just two commands.
1) Follow this howto:
http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-wifi-roaming-with-wpa-supplicant/
2) change the config file to
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 07:36:08PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Mitt Green writes:
> > Not sure if that was sarcasm though.
> >
> > Anyway, why do we need dbus if we can live
> > without it?
> >
> > I've seen these [1] cool figures explaining what it is
> > but neither them,
> > nor the article
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 11:16:22AM +0300, Mitt Green wrote:
> Thank you, Simon.
>
> I'll probably get my second degree as CS,
> I'm currently in a different (non-tech) university.
> I hope money we'll pay worth it. The good thing
> is that you don't need to pass exams one more time,
> they will on
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 05:22:15PM +0300, 4ernov wrote:
> Thank you for this suggestion, just tried netman and it really works just
> fine.
>
> But my initial questions are still there if I'm write to notice that
> network-manager is kind of 'default' package for desktop connection
> management (
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 08:10:57PM +0300, Mitt Green wrote:
> I remember Squeeze with Xfce was (is,
> since it is still supported)
> using it by default as well.
>
> By the way, why not plain
> wpa_supplicant? It's lightweight unlike
> Wicd and is included on each Unix
> system by default nowada
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 11:41:56PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 14/11/2015 21:20, Brian Nash a écrit :
> >I never did figure out (or remember) how to use wpa_supplicant, although
> >IIRC connecting to a wifi network is just two commands.
>
> 1) Follow this howto:
> http://www.debuntu.org/how
Le 15/11/2015 05:31, Isaac Dunham a écrit :
wpa_supplicant has no non-daemon mode. When it exits, it deconfigures the
interface.
Right. I overlooked the -B option. Not giving this option simply
allows to debug or "supervise" the daemon.
Isaac, I'm impressed how acurate you always are
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