Re: [DNG] Offtopic: pointed messages?

Mitt wrote: > I noticed that my messages are not pointed to those who they are sent to. See > image > https://imgur.com/J4UaT7D Are you referring to the fact that it's not shown in "it's place in the tree" like the rest of the messages ? If so, then that's because your mails don't contain In-R

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

Adam Borowski writes: > Today on #debconf: > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing > systemd by default Technically, this is a threat: "Should Devuan ever release something, an event I don't really be

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

Xfce requires ConsoleKit or ConsoleKit2 and the startup ran with the flag "startxfce --with-ck-launch". From: iguleder Sent: ‎8/‎23/‎2015 11:48 PM To: adamdm Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

If that is the case, how do I get the 'suspend' and 'hibernate' buttons? I have pm-utils installed and I am using Devuan 64 bit. On 24/08/2015, iguleder wrote: > apt-get update;apt-get -y upgrade > > I've spent many nights debugging power/session management issues in Xfce on > Devuan - all confir

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > could thus considered to be a bait, what was the point, exactly? ehehehe, exactly BTW on the bright side, yesterday I did something quite daring went switching from Debian wheezy to Devuan jessie on a production machine which runs with an LVM raid se

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

AFAIK pm-utils should be enough, but make sure you restart Xfce. On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:22:31 +0300 Edward Bartolo wrote If that is the case, how do I get the 'suspend' and 'hibernate' buttons? I have pm-utils installed and I am using Devuan 64 bit. On 24/08/201

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

I have just discovered a BUG in the frontend. When the frontend is invoked through the use of a launcher, the backend's environment path will not be the directory to which the front end and backend are installed. This is not the case if the launcher is copied to the directory containing the execut

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

The line number is 117. On 24/08/2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: > I have just discovered a BUG in the frontend. > > When the frontend is invoked through the use of a launcher, the > backend's environment path will not be the directory to which the > front end and backend are installed. This is not t

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

Il 24/ago/2015 09:50 AM, "iguleder" ha scritto: > > AFAIK pm-utils should be enough, but make sure you restart Xfce. > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:22:31 +0300 Edward Bartolo wrote >> >> If that is the case, how do I get the 'suspend' and 'hibernate' >> buttons? I have pm-utils installed an

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

Ok, got the line number - but where's the code :-D On 08/24/2015 10:11 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: The line number is 117. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

It is in an earlier reply in this same email thread: 23 August 2015 at 16:49 Malta time which should be equal to Germany time. On 24/08/2015, tilt! wrote: > Ok, got the line number - but where's the code :-D > > On 08/24/2015 10:11 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: >> The line number is 117. > __

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 23:06 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 20:34 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Today on #debconf: > > > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > > 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing > > systemd by de

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

I still have not tested Xfce in Devuan, i will do it as soon as possible. Aitor. On 24/08/15 10:11, Edward Bartolo wrote: If that is the case, how do I get the 'suspend' and 'hibernate' buttons? I have pm-utils installed and I am using Devuan 64 bit. On 24/08/2015, iguleder wrote: >apt-get

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

Svante Signell wrote: > See above, the DNG mailing list is mostly full of discussions and not > much actions, except for from a few people. That is the impression I'd got as well. Now I'll preface the next bit with ... this is not meant to be an insult or criticism, so please don't take it tha

[DNG] libpam-systemd

Is libpam-systemd needed by devuan? Because that's the only package I have installed that would be broken by removing systemd itself. Since it appears to have something do do with authentication, I'm concerned that I may not be able to log in after I've removed it to undo damage. -- hendrik

[DNG] xfce has logout icon but no login/suspend/shutdown menu

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:26:16AM +0200, adamdm wrote: > I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled... > Am I missing something? When I first installed devuan from alpha2, just a bit over a week ago, the shutdown button was there, and worked. Actually, there was a word at t

Re: [DNG] Offtopic: pointed messages?

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 08:02:35AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > Mitt wrote: > > > I noticed that my messages are not pointed to those who they are sent to. > > See image > > https://imgur.com/J4UaT7D > > Are you referring to the fact that it's not shown in "it's place in the tree" > like the r

[DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:32:11AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:26:16AM +0200, adamdm wrote: > > I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled... > > Am I missing something? > > When I first installed devuan from alpha2, just a bit over a week ago, > th

Re: [DNG] libpam-systemd

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Is libpam-systemd needed by devuan? Because that's the only package > I have installed that would be broken by removing systemd itself. > > Since it appears to have something do do with authentication, I'm > concerned that I may not be able t

Re: [DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I Have a lock screen/suspend/shutdown/logout menu on the right end of the top > icon panel. Only the 'switch user' item is greyed out. > > From my own account, which was copied from Debian Jessie, I have > only a logout icon. > > So it looks

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

Hi Svante, Pristine-tar branch guarantees a constant checksum in the sources *.bz2. The packager should not make changes in the source (this is only for the developer), all the changes must be done in the debian branch using quilt. Shortly i will write a little guide explaining how to create t

Re: [DNG] libpam-systemd

We already took care of it, using amprolla overrides. Affected packages are xfce4-power-manager and xfce4-session. Both recommend it. On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:15:35 +0300 Hendrik Boom wrote Is libpam-systemd needed by devuan? Because that's the only package I h

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:53:53 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > > On 24/08/2015, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:26:16 +0200 > > adamdm wrote: > > > >> I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled... > >> Am I missing something? > > > > I've intermittently had this pr

Re: [DNG] libpam-systemd

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:15:35 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Is libpam-systemd needed by devuan? Because that's the only package > I have installed that would be broken by removing systemd itself. > > Since it appears to have something do do with authentication, I'm > concerned that I may not be a

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:48:54 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:53:53 +0100 > Edward Bartolo wrote: >> On 24/08/2015, Steve Litt wrote: >>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:26:16 +0200 >>> adamdm wrote: I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled... Am I missing

[DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

Adding or removing an user in the system affects also to other files like /etc/group, /etc/gshadow, /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid. Aitor. El 24/08/15 a las 17:48, Hendrik Boom escribió: Then I copied /home/hendrik from my old Debian jessie installation, >put my login information from Debian int

Re: [DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 03:29:31AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > Adding or removing an user in the system affects also to other files > like /etc/group, /etc/gshadow, /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid. Forgot about those. Thanks. -- hendrik > > Aitor. > > El 24/08/15 a las 17:48, Hendrik Boom escribió

[DNG] wpa_supplicant/ifup integration documentation

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:28:45PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > I would also like to know what your understanding is of how the things > are handled by the cooperative interaction of ifup, ifdown and > wpa_supplicant. This is something for which I cannot find a comprehensive > description, and I

Re: [DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

On 25/08/15 13:32, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 03:29:31AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: Adding or removing an user in the system affects also to other files like /etc/group, /etc/gshadow, /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid. Forgot about those. Thanks. Actually no don't, atleast /etc/gro

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

Perhaps oblogout coult be adapted to Xfce. Aitor. On 24/08/15 17:48, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:53:53 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > >On 24/08/2015, Steve Litt wrote: > >On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:26:16 +0200 > >adamdm wrote: > > > >>I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the butto