Re: [DNG] CLI backend: (E)SSID issues

2015-08-23 Thread poitr pogo
Hi, On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 23:57:54 +0200 > "tilt!" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> it has come to my attention that an SSID is defined by a >> (closed) IEEE standard as (I quote inofficial source [1]): >> >> > [...] "0-32 octets with arbitrary conten

Re: [DNG] C string handling

2015-08-23 Thread Rainer Weikusat
"tilt!" writes: > On 08/22/2015 04:40 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Roger Leigh writes: >>> On 20/08/2015 11:27, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Roger Leigh writes: > On 19/08/2015 17:39, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> p_len = strlen(IFACES_PATH); >> e_len = strlen(essid); >>

Re: [DNG] CLI backend: (E)SSID issues

2015-08-23 Thread Rainer Weikusat
"tilt!" writes: > Hello, > > it has come to my attention that an SSID is defined by a > (closed) IEEE standard as (I quote inofficial source [1]): > >> [...] "0-32 octets with arbitrary contents. A 0-length >> SSID indicates the wildcard SSID (in probe request >> frames for instance)" > > This mea

Re: [DNG] C string handling

2015-08-23 Thread Edward Bartolo
My 'irrational' choice of C language for backend. As a coder, I lack knowledge and experience. This is plain clear from the code I can write, but I offered my very limited coding capabilities to help, notwithstanding I knew, I would have been a dwarf among giants. I opted out of choosing Lazarus

Re: [DNG] CLI backend: (E)SSID issues

2015-08-23 Thread tilt!
Hi Piotr, On 08/23/2015 09:24 AM, poitr pogo wrote: [...] What about utf-8 encoded (or other encodings like iso-8859-X) strings with national charaters like "mściągwoń". Will it be supported? Supported - mean displayed and setting up connection properly? Yes! :) Best regards, T.

Re: [DNG] C string handling

2015-08-23 Thread tilt!
Hi Edward! On 08/23/2015 12:37 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: My 'irrational' choice of C language for backend. As a coder, I lack knowledge and experience. This is plain clear from the code I can write, but I offered my very limited coding capabilities to help, notwithstanding I knew, I would have

Re: [DNG] C string handling

2015-08-23 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Edward, In my opinion Pascal is a little obsolete language, but it is a OOP very similar to C++. The work is done, chapeau! Aitor. On 23/08/15 12:37, Edward Bartolo wrote: My 'irrational' choice of C language for backend. As a coder, I lack knowledge and experience. This is plain clear

[DNG] Bug in live-installer

2015-08-23 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, Installing live-images, the process becames unstable depending (i suppose) on the size of the filesystem.squashfs file. The following hack solves this issue: https://gitlab.com/aitor_czr/live-installer/commit/cf89c8d49196cc92d183640bd1697599bdcaed99 I'm not the author of the hack. Th

Re: [DNG] C string handling

2015-08-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 02:01:30PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Edward, > > In my opinion Pascal is a little obsolete language, but it is a OOP > very similar to C++. > The work is done, chapeau! Agree, except for the part of being siilar to C++. The language that does fit this description, and w

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Edward Bartolo
Although I have a working Lazarus written frontend, I am getting the message, it may not be accepted in Devuan, for the reason it is written in Lazarus Pascal. Therefore, I am considering taking the leap of trying to rewrite it for GTK2 or GTK3, the implementation language being C++. However, this

Re: [DNG] C string handling

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:37:26 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > My 'irrational' choice of C language for backend. > > As a coder, I lack knowledge and experience. This is plain clear from > the code I can write, but I offered my very limited coding > capabilities to help, notwithstanding I knew, I wo

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Jaromil
dear Edward On Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Although I have a working Lazarus written frontend, I am getting the > message, it may not be accepted in Devuan, for the reason it is > written in Lazarus Pascal. I doubt that can be a valid reason to exclude your code from being package

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 23 Aug 09:21 -0500, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Although I have a working Lazarus written frontend, I am getting the > message, it may not be accepted in Devuan, for the reason it is > written in Lazarus Pascal. Therefore, I am considering taking the leap > of trying to rewrite it for GTK2 or

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Tobias Hunger
Hi Edward, In your place I'd stick with what I am comfortable with and let the packages figure out how to get things into distributions, especially after jaromils message. But if you decide to go for a C++ frontend, then you might want to consider Qt. It is probably a more beginner friendly optio

Re: [DNG] C string handling

2015-08-23 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:37:26 +0100 > Edward Bartolo wrote: > >> My 'irrational' choice of C language for backend. >> >> As a coder, I lack knowledge and experience. This is plain clear from >> the code I can write, but I offered my very limited coding >> capabilities to hel

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread tilt!
Hi Edward, On 08/23/2015 04:20 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: Although I have a working Lazarus written frontend, I am getting the message, it may not be accepted in Devuan, for the reason it is written in Lazarus Pascal. Therefore, I am considering taking the leap of trying to rewrite it for GTK2 or

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 15:20:49 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Although I have a working Lazarus written frontend, I am getting the > message, it may not be accepted in Devuan, for the reason it is > written in Lazarus Pascal. Therefore, I am considering taking the leap > of trying to rewrite it for

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:50:45 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > > dear Edward > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > Although I have a working Lazarus written frontend, I am getting the > > message, it may not be accepted in Devuan, for the reason it is > > written in Lazarus Pascal. > > I

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: [...] > Another suggestion, if you'd like to use C, is the libsx package: VERY > lightweight GUI. Here's a no-systemd notification system, using libsx, > that a guy on Debian-User wrote: > > http://a3b3.com/stuff/sxnotify.c > > The preceding link has detailed build instruction

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 8/23/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, August 23, 2015, 10:27 AM > > GTK* is, imho, too big a hammer for writing this simple back end. It > would pull in thousands of lines of code. >

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Go Linux
I'm just realizing that Pascal and Lazarus Pascal might be two different things. Apologies for any confusion . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:27:21 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 15:20:49 +0100 > Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > Although I have a working Lazarus written frontend, I am getting the > > message, it may not be accepted in Devuan, for the reason it is > > written in Lazarus Pascal. Therefo

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-23 Thread Edward Bartolo
There is a unit called threader.pas that is not used. Please, discard it as it has errors. On 23/08/2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: > I am sending a .tar.gz file with the Lazarus project together with the > compiled executable. The latter is named netman and is found together > with the Pascal source

[DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Adam Borowski
Today on #debconf: 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default 20:11 < paultag> which they still do Guys... _still_ installing systemd by default is pathethic. I provided a set of desystemdi

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Anto
On 23/08/15 20:34, Adam Borowski wrote: Today on #debconf: 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default 20:11 < paultag> which they still do Guys... _still_ installing systemd by default is

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 10:17:05PM +0200, Anto wrote: > > On 23/08/15 20:34, Adam Borowski wrote: > >Today on #debconf: > > > >20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > >20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing > >systemd by default > >20:11 < paul

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 8/23/15, Adam Borowski wrote: Subject: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, August 23, 2015, 1:34 PM > Today on #debconf: > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 20:34 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > Today on #debconf: > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing > systemd by default > 20:11 < paultag> which they still do > > Guys... _still_ ins

[DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread adamdm
I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled... Am I missing something? Thanks ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 24/08/15 06:34, Adam Borowski wrote: Today on #debconf: 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default 20:11 < paultag> which they still do Guys... _still_ installing systemd by default is

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Hey there, On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:26:16AM +0200, adamdm wrote: > Am I missing something? pm-utils I think. -- Teodoro Santoni Something is wrong. I don't wanna compile 20 KB of Go code to list files. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread tilt!
On 08/24/2015 12:26 AM, adamdm wrote: I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled... Am I missing something? apt-get install pm-utils Kind regards, T. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/m

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread adamdm
Hi, I've installed it but it doesn't change nothing... $ dpkg -l | grep pm-utils ii pm-utils 1.4.1-15 all utilities and scripts for power management > On 08/24/2015 12:26 AM, adamdm wrote: >> I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabl

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Jaromil
On 23 August 2015 21:52:46 BST, Go Linux wrote: >I agree that the inclusion of ANY systemd files at this point is a BIG >target for comments like these. VUAs et al . . . time to clean house . its so easy to just remove systemd packages from amprolla... and so much more work has been put in a

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread tilt!
On 08/24/2015 01:37 AM, adamdm wrote: Hi, I've installed it but it doesn't change nothing... $ dpkg -l | grep pm-utils ii pm-utils 1.4.1-15 Hmm. Unsure. Did you log out and log in again to restart XFCE since you installed the package? Kind regards, T. __

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread adamdm
Yes I've tryed but nothing.. >Hmm. Unsure. > >Did you log out and log in again to restart XFCE >since you installed the package? > >Kind regards, >T. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread tilt!
Hi, On 08/24/2015 02:22 AM, adamdm wrote: Hmm. Unsure. Did you log out and log in again to restart XFCE since you installed the package? > Yes I've tryed but nothing.. Ahhh, this is so troublesome :-) 1. Do you have the "policykit-1" and the "policykit-1-gnome" packages installed? 2. Y

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:34:19 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > Today on #debconf: > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop > installing systemd by default 20:11 < paultag> which they still do > > Guys... _still_ inst

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 22:17:05 +0200 Anto wrote: > Someone kept confirming that Devuan will not support systemd. But it > was confirmed as well that the option for Devuan to support systemd > is still quite wide open if someone (I believe more accurate will be > a company as big as RedHat) is will

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:52:46 -0700 Go Linux wrote: > It's hard to read those quotes from #debconf properly without knowing > the previous context. I was wondering if any Devuaneers crashed > debconf. Was this a response to their presence? Or just to someone > trolling the irc? > > I agree t

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:26:16 +0200 adamdm wrote: > I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled... > Am I missing something? I've intermittently had this problem on multiple versions of multiple distros. I think of it as being part of the plan --- just the way life is. If you'

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread Mitt
On 2015-08-23 22:26, adamdm wrote: /> I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled...// //> Am I missing something?// //> // //> Thanks// //>/ Hi, Try to create two files in /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/; name the first consolekit.pkla and put this there: [restar

[DNG] Offtopic: pointed messages?

2015-08-23 Thread Mitt
Hi, I noticed that my messages are not pointed to those who they are sent to. See image https://imgur.com/J4UaT7D How do you do that? Thanks, Mitt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread Edward Bartolo
Could we create a simple application that displays a logout modal window similar to the one displayed by xfce4, remove the default logout menu item from xfce4 and create our own one. With GTK2 it shouldn't be that difficult to create it? We would only need to setup sudo to run the littel GTK2 app.

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread Daniel Reurich
That's re-implementing the wheel. Why not just use what's there and either fix or replace the broken bits. D On 24/08/15 16:53, Edward Bartolo wrote: Could we create a simple application that displays a logout modal window similar to the one displayed by xfce4, remove the default logout menu i

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread Edward Bartolo
Sometimes reinventing the wheel does help, like say, the historical invention of the transistor. There was the thermionic valve, why reinvent an electronic amplifying device? Still, research is going on to replace silicon with something else that uses less energy and is faster. So, reinventing the

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-23 Thread iguleder
apt-get update;apt-get -y upgrade I've spent many nights debugging power/session management issues in Xfce on Devuan - all confirmed disabled button issues are fixed. Let me know if the problem persists. On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:26:16 +0300 adamdm wrote I can