Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread tilt!
Steve Litt wrote on 27/07/2015 at 05:18 CEST: You can roll your own automount with one day's work using inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than 20 people want it. +1 However, I dont' have sudo installed, w

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:49:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > As far as Windowmaker and Gnustep, if you can get those to serve you in > any kind of productive way, you're a better man than I. I find Unity > easier to use than those two. Speaking of Unity, Unity proved how many > users a

[DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: > That's a very gracious offer, Steve, and I'm sure it will be greatly > appreciated. =) > > If I might say so, I HATE automount. Click to mount is fine, but > automounting peripheral drives like jump drives, CDs and whatnot is an > inexcusab

Re: [DNG] Ashley Madison hack

2015-07-27 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:45 PM, James Powell wrote: > You'd have to really spoof PAM and fool the IDS to some extent, and you have > Firewalls to get past. You're assuming there is an IDS. It may have been via an employee logging in to the company extranet via cybercafé wireless or something..

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Svante Signell wrote: > On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > If I might say so, I HATE automount. Click to mount is fine, but > > automounting peripheral drives like jump drives, CDs and whatnot is an > > inexcusable security risk, in my opinion, even und

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Daniel Cegiełka
2015-07-27 11:45 GMT+02:00 Jaromil : > On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Svante Signell wrote: >> On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: >> > If I might say so, I HATE automount. Click to mount is fine, but >> > automounting peripheral drives like jump drives, CDs and whatnot is an >> > inexcus

Re: [DNG] Will there be a MirDevuan "WTF"?

2015-07-27 Thread Thorsten Glaser
croatiafidelis.hr> writes: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:06:29AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > What does the Mir" prefix contribute the the meaning? > > What does "WTF" mean in thei context. I mean what the fuck? The “Mir” præfix means it comes from me / The MirOS Project. “WTF” has OpenBSD-his

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Didier Kryn
T.J, would you please try to put dyne.org as To instead of CC, in the destination? I think it would enable the button "reply to the list" in Thunderbird. Le 27/07/2015 02:28, T.J. Duchene a écrit : > The affectation operator is := instead of = in C, and the > comparison are = (instea

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:58:55PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: ... > The affectation operator is := instead of = in C, and the > comparison are = (instead of ==) and /= instead of != . The bad > choice of operators, together with other tricks is probably the main > source of bugs in C programs.

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:32:06 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > But if you frequently change languages, you rapidly find: > > = is a bad choice for assignment, because it also means equality. > = is a bad choice for equality, because it also means assignment. > > So the only sane choice is to use := f

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:20:03 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > Or, as in APL, use => for assignment Sorry, read "use A (left arrow) 1 2 3 4" for assignment Cheers, Ron. -- And it should be the law: If you use the word `paradigm' without knowing what the dictionary says it means,

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Robert Storey
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Steve Litt > > wrote: > > You can roll your own automount with one day's work using > > inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. > > Works without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself > > if more than 20

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 27/07/2015 17:45, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:20:03 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Or, as in APL, use => for assignment You mean like in "b+c => a" ? Interesting because assignment is an invention of imperative languages with no "natural" reason for

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Dave Turner
What he said! My laptop and my desktop will be easy to use. Multi-user systems are a different kettle of fish. Security has to take to take precedence, but make it too difficult and nobody will use your new OS in the first place... DaveT On 27/07/15 16:49, Robert Storey wrote: > > On Sun,

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/27/2015 07:07 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 27/07/2015 17:45, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:20:03 -0400 >> Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >> >>> Or, as in APL, use => for assignment > > You mean like in "b+c => a" ? > > Interesting because assignment is an inv

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 18:07:30 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > "use A (left arrow) 1 2 3 4" for assignment > > Don't understand what you mean :-) (letter A) (left arrow symbol) (one or several values or variables) > You mean like in "b+c => a" ? that would be: (letter a) (left arrow sym

[DNG] Off Topic - Hacker Ethic

2015-07-27 Thread Anto
I am not a hacker. I had been trying to be one but I failed miserably, so I decided to be myself. I just watched an almost 2 years old but very interesting presentation about hacker ethic on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJNUUkx-_38. Bravo Jaromil! I completely agree with all that you said.

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:00:02AM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On 24/07/2015 23:48, James Powell wrote: > >CDE is a classic UNIX desktop, but it has long been since viable for > >modern usages. > > > >Xfce, in truth, was a modern replacement for it using Xforms since Motif > >was, at the time, unde

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:24:45 +0200 tilt! wrote: > Steve Litt wrote on 27/07/2015 at 05:18 CEST: > > You can roll your own automount with one day's work using > > inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works > > without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than >

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:10:29 +0200 Svante Signell wrote: > On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > That's a very gracious offer, Steve, and I'm sure it will be greatly > > appreciated. =) > > > > If I might say so, I HATE automount. Click to mount is fine, but > > automountin

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread tilt!
Hi Steve, Steve Litt wrote on 28/07/2015 at 06:04 CEST: [...] > Just install sudo and be very parsimonious about rights it gives out. > [...] For what do you need sudo? Regards, T. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.or

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Daniel Cegiełka
2015-07-28 6:04 GMT+02:00 Steve Litt : > On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:24:45 +0200 > tilt! wrote: > >> Steve Litt wrote on 27/07/2015 at 05:18 CEST: >> > You can roll your own automount with one day's work using >> > inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works >> > without X or window

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 06:13:26 +0200 tilt! wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Steve Litt wrote on 28/07/2015 at 06:04 CEST: > > [...] > > Just install sudo and be very parsimonious about rights it gives > > out. [...] > > For what do you need sudo? > > Regards, > T. So you don't do su - or simply keep a

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 27/07/2015 14:52, Didier Kryn a écrit : Around 1994 I had the project of a large multi-host DAQ system and I decided to select an appropriate language because C was too low-level. I selected Ada after months of enquiry, reading various opinions and comparisons, without knowing the language a