Re: [DNG] proposed changes: the results

2015-07-20 Thread Ста Деюс
Good time of the day, Franco. On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 04:41:13 +0200 you wrote: > What do you think about moving this way? Good. Or base install + by tasks/virtual packages (selectable at the install stage). Regards, Sthu. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists

Re: [DNG] startup scripts (was dng@lists.dyne.org)

2015-07-20 Thread Mat
On 18/07/15 12:42, Fred DC wrote: > On 18/07/2015 10:49, Laurent Bercot wrote: >> >> Believe me, providing sysv-rc compatibility when you're working on >> a supervision suite is no small feat: the paradigm is very different, >> >> . If it was easy, we would have provided compatibilit

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-20 Thread Marlon Nunes
On 2015-07-19 14:19, Nextime wrote: On July 19, 2015 6:52:28 PM CEST, "T.J. Duchene" wrote: Hi, everyone! =) With all this discussion about changes, I'd like to make sure that the UNIX guru/programmer is represented. I've mentioned this before, and I hate repetition - BUT - I feel it is impo

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-20 Thread Jaromil
dear Golinux On July 15, 2015 6:16:32 PM GMT+02:00, Go Linux wrote: >Maybe what Devuan needs is a 'sys admin' version (perhaps w/o a DE) and >an 'ordinary user' version (with xfce and less complicated tools than >vi as default). as we stated on the website, me and others believe Devuan should

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-20 Thread Jaromil
On July 15, 2015 5:06:33 PM GMT+02:00, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: >On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:38:43 +0200 >Franco Lanza wrote: > >> traditionally UNIX has vi, this is why i'm suggesting it. > >Except that Debian does not have it when a boot prob sends you to the >rescue console ;-3( I certainly hear

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 10, Issue 41

2015-07-20 Thread taoiste
Sorry, just throwing in my 2ct, not even knowing how to correctly quote (I receive the digested list). Imho the biggest chance, the biggest potential for devuan would be to just start off as "another" debian, just without systemd and, and I've read about it on this list, with maybe vdev as a r

Re: [DNG] Systemd (was Dng Digest, Vol 10, Issue 41)

2015-07-20 Thread T.J. Duchene
On Thu, 2015-07-16 at 00:16 +0200, taoi...@gmx.net wrote: > Sorry, just throwing in my 2ct, not even knowing how to correctly quote > (I receive the digested list). No worries, Stephan! =) > > Imho the biggest chance, the biggest potential for devuan would be to > just start off as "another" d

[DNG] Newbie's lennard-gnomed

2015-07-20 Thread Martin Zatroch
Just to illustrate how the lennard-gnomed ideas creep "U can't be serious": 0.| http://blog.pcbsd.org/2015/04/huge-announcement-for-pc-bsd/ "And now for sth completely different": 1.| '20150629: The TrueOS fork of FreeBSD 10 has launchd running as init and a JSON-aware launchctl utility,

Re: [DNG] Newbie's lennard-gnomed

2015-07-20 Thread James Powell
The PC-BSD system-BS-D was an April Fools joke. However, launchd is a completely different beast than systemd is. Launchd is more akin to SMF on Solaris/Illumos and s6 on GNU/Linux being init and service supervisors only, which are forward thinking. They still require other daemons to manage th