Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-06-01 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 31/05/2015 22:34, Laurent Bercot a écrit : On 31/05/2015 18:35, Didier Kryn wrote: AFAIU, this thread has turned to be about interfacing whatever app to a scripting language. I consider this a very usefull feature for all but basic applications. In particular, I consider that interfacing init

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-06-01 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 01/06/2015 11:25, Didier Kryn wrote: I know the argument that init should be kept small to be rock-solid. Does it mean that it must be written in C and not in Lua or Ash? It all depends on what you call "init". This word encompasses at least three different things. Explanation and details h

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-06-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:25:03 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Laurent, > > I know the argument that init should be kept small to be > rock-solid. Does it mean that it must be written in C and not in Lua > or Ash? Yes. In my opinion it does. Init must be tiny, and it must be rock solid. Lu

Re: [Dng] DistroWatch review of Manjaro-OpenRC

2015-06-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 12:11:08 +0800 Robert Storey wrote: > Now that Ubuntu and Debian have decided to go over to the Dark Side > (ie systemd), I've been looking for a replacement at least until > Devuan is released. I believe it was Steve Litt who made a post > suggesting that Manjaro-OpenRC was ve

Re: [Dng] automounting in a window manager

2015-06-01 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Robert Storey" > > First, thanks to all who replied. > > To me, the ideal solution would be if this was a user-configurable option. > Would be great if you could, for example, just stick something into .bashrc > for any user to allow automounting of USB devi

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-06-01 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 01/06/2015 12:59, Laurent Bercot a écrit : Oh, sure - I'm all for learning by experimenting and hacking away. It's just that this mailing-list is about a distribution that aims to be Debian-sized, so I thought you were suggesting it for Devuan. I think you'll agree that on a distribution, st

Re: [Dng] automounting in a window manager

2015-06-01 Thread shraptor
On 2015-06-01 16:22, Rob Owens wrote: - Original Message - From: "Robert Storey" First, thanks to all who replied. To me, the ideal solution would be if this was a user-configurable option. Would be great if you could, for example, just stick something into .bashrc for any user to a

Re: [Dng] Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-06-01 Thread Marlon Nunes
On 2015-05-31 01:21, Init Freedom wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cdEFF-ttLw [1] May the source be with you, gents. Links: -- [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cdEFF-ttLw ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyn

Re: [Dng] Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-06-01 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 31 May 2015, Yves wrote: >Damn I find this distasteful!! agreed, however we must consider that another hitler video was done against us even before we had the chance to follow up from the declaration with present facts and even if the "german dictator type" is obviously not sitting in

Re: [Dng] automounting in a window manager

2015-06-01 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "shraptor" > On 2015-06-01 16:22, Rob Owens wrote: > > - Original Message - > >> From: "Robert Storey" > >> > >> First, thanks to all who replied. > >> > >> To me, the ideal solution would be if this was a user-configurable > >> option. > >> Would be

Re: [Dng] Is it useful to create a .so file to replace functions imported from libsystemd & Co.?

2015-06-01 Thread T.J. Duchene
> After more digging, what did the problem turn out to be? > > > policykit-1. Yup, during my upgrade, I snagged policykit-1 from > Devuan. It broke things. > > I apt-get remove'd policykit-1, and lookit that, my Reboot/Shutdown > buttons are back. I didn't even have to restart XFCE. > >

[Dng] New systemd release notes regarding udev.

2015-06-01 Thread James Powell
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS It seems udev is getting split up between several projects within systemd and GNOME. It seems gudev is being handed off in the future to GNOME and parts of udev are being pushed deeper into systemd. I'm not surprised at this, since kdbus didn'

Re: [Dng] New systemd release notes regarding udev.

2015-06-01 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Jim, > It seems udev is getting split up between several projects within systemd > and GNOME. It seems gudev is being handed off in the future to GNOME and > parts of udev are being pushed deeper into systemd. > > gudev splitting off isn't a problem; in fact, I applaud the decision. > I'm no

Re: [Dng] New systemd release notes regarding udev.

2015-06-01 Thread James Powell
One concern I have is how GNOME will manage gudev. One thing I don't want to think about is them creating some dependency upon systemd in some way preventing portability to extracted udev or something that is udev compatible like vdev requiring gudev to be either heavily patched or redeveloped,