[Dng] udev: File hwdb.bin is always being reported to be missing

2015-05-19 Thread Irrwahn
[ Ref. git.devuan.org/jaretcantu/eudev/issues/2 ] Hello Jaret, since I cannot comment on git.devuan.org I'll try here instead. I believe udev is complaining about the missing hwdb.bin file, because it is not present in the _initramfs_. Thus, a simple udevadm hwdb --update won't suffice, you'd

[Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread yvesjv
Hi all, Could be some slackware joke but I noticed a folder named systemd within slack 14.1 bash-4.2# ls -l /lib/systemd/system/ total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 298 Dec 31 07:38 laptop-mode.service -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 289 Dec 10 2011 wicd.service bash-4.2# Can anyone el

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 07:29:03PM +1000, yve...@tpg.com.au wrote: > Hi all, > > Could be some slackware joke but I noticed a folder named systemd > within slack 14.1 Probably upstream units that came in with 'make install' when building the package. signature.asc Description: Digital sig

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread Matthew Melton
> -Original Message- > From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Jack L. Frost > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:47 AM > To: yve...@tpg.com.au > Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe? > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 07:29:03PM +1000, yve

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread Anto
On 19/05/15 11:29, yve...@tpg.com.au wrote: Hi all, Could be some slackware joke but I noticed a folder named systemd within slack 14.1 /bash-4.2# ls -l /lib/systemd/system/ total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 298 Dec 31 07:38 laptop-mode.service -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 289 Dec 10 2011 wicd.servi

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:42:43PM +0200, Anto wrote: [cut] > > I have never used Slackware but that is similar problem as I have > experienced since last year with Debian wheezy. I think the main > problem is that, a lot of upstream packages and their maintainers in > most distros support syste

[Dng] Devuan merged repository does not work today

2015-05-19 Thread Anto
Hello Everybody, There is something wrong on Devuan merged repository today. Or is the update still in progress so I just need to wait longer? Cheers, Anto root@hp8530w:~# root@hp8530w:~# apt-get update Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release.gpg Hit http://packages.devuan

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread Jaret Cantu
On 05/19/2015 06:42 AM, Anto wrote: Did that happen on sysvinit, upstart, openrc, etc.? If systemd would be modular, I would consider to use it. Totally. [jaret@ragnarok ~]$ dpkg -l '*upstart*' Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread Irrwahn
KatolaZ wrote on 19.05.2015 12:55: > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:42:43PM +0200, Anto wrote: > [cut] >> I have never used Slackware but that is similar problem as I have >> experienced since last year with Debian wheezy. I think the main >> problem is that, a lot of upstream packages and their maint

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread Anto
On 19/05/15 13:48, Jaret Cantu wrote: On 05/19/2015 06:42 AM, Anto wrote: Did that happen on sysvinit, upstart, openrc, etc.? If systemd would be modular, I would consider to use it. Totally. [jaret@ragnarok ~]$ dpkg -l '*upstart*' Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=No

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread Anto
On 19/05/15 14:00, Irrwahn wrote: Just to be clear: Personally, I follow and use Devuan because I prefer to maintain my installations [as] free [as possible] of any systemd components, but calling "stupid" the fact that a maintainer takes a more or less neutral stance WRT to init systems is a b

Re: [Dng] Devuan merged repository does not work today

2015-05-19 Thread Irrwahn
Anto wrote on 19.05.2015 13:43: > There is something wrong on Devuan merged repository today. Or is the > update still in progress so I just need to wait longer? > W: Conflicting distribution: http://packages.devuan.org jessie Release > (expected jessie but got ) > W: Failed to fetch > http:

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread Irrwahn
Anto wrote on 19.05.2015 14:43: > > On 19/05/15 14:00, Irrwahn wrote: >> Just to be clear: Personally, I follow and use Devuan because I prefer >> to maintain my installations [as] free [as possible] of any systemd >> components, but calling "stupid" the fact that a maintainer takes a more >> or

[Dng] systemd has a long reach

2015-05-19 Thread shraptor
Bought a jolla phone to replace my iphone. Got trouble with mobile internet. I have filebrowser installed. Looking in /var/log No text logs but got a textfile saying use journalctl Probably is a way to get a terminal but I didn't know how and had no Internet to research. systemd has got a lo

Re: [Dng] systemd has a long reach

2015-05-19 Thread Vlad
Do you have actual package management tools like yum or apt-get? You could install syslog and set systemd's journald binary garbage producing crap to forward to it. On May 19, 2015 5:11 PM, "shraptor" wrote: > Bought a jolla phone to replace my iphone. > > Got trouble with mobile internet. > > I

Re: [Dng] Devuan merged repository does not work today

2015-05-19 Thread Franco Lanza
Probably a temporary issue with one of the repos we merge, i'm checking it right now and rebuilding it to make sure it works. Please if you have any issue with the merged repo, send an email also to next...@devuan.org so i can wake up faster than this time. On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 02:47:54PM +020

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread yvesjv
 Hi Anto, From your posts it appears that you are doing a lot of work cleaning up these packages. Apologies if I've missed a previous post as I think it would be extremely helpful to all interested if you documented your invaluable work on a wiki of sorts? Perha

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread yvesjv
 Hi Anto, From your posts it appears that you are doing a lot of work cleaning up these packages. Apologies if I've missed a previous post as I think it would be extremely helpful to all interested if you documented your invaluable work on a wiki of sorts? Perha

Re: [Dng] Devuan merged repository does not work today

2015-05-19 Thread Anto
On 19/05/15 18:19, Franco Lanza wrote: Probably a temporary issue with one of the repos we merge, i'm checking it right now and rebuilding it to make sure it works. Please if you have any issue with the merged repo, send an email also to next...@devuan.org so i can wake up faster than this tim

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread Anto
On 19/05/15 20:31, yve...@tpg.com.au wrote: Hi Anto, From your posts it appears that you are doing a lot of work cleaning up these packages. Apologies if I've missed a previous post as I think it would be extremely helpful to all interested if you documented your invaluable work on a wi

Re: [Dng] systemd has a long reach

2015-05-19 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:11 PM, shraptor wrote: > systemd has got a long reach indeed If it's being shipped out-of-the-box in (almost) all the main distros, it's not long reach, it's statistics. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailingli

Re: [Dng] Slackware systemd creepin in maybe?

2015-05-19 Thread James Powell
Hey guys, let me clarify the Slackware position on systemd. Patrick has no intent on enforcing the usage of systemd upon Slackware and it's users unless it becomes an unavoidable issue. So far, this has not been the case in the slightest, and we doubt it will be. Slackware intends to keep the b

Re: [Dng] Is it useful to create a .so file to replace functions imported from libsystemd & Co.?

2015-05-19 Thread Jaret Cantu
On 05/18/2015 07:20 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: xfce4-power-manager, xfce4-session, upowerd don't look like using libsystemd directly. I found many functions imported from udev but my assumption is that these are already provided by gudev although I may be wrong. My XFCE4 installation in Devuan ca

[Dng] I want to mount a Packages page, buildd and Wanna-build system

2015-05-19 Thread APT Gatuno MX
Hi! I'm new to Devuan. I love Debian, but I hate systemd. Before the init jessie controversy, I was so obsessed with Debian's Build System. So I installed my own Debian Wanna Build System. Yes, it was quite difficult, but I made it. The current setup is a reprepro Repo, a special trigger for