Re: [Dng] What about pulseaudio, avahi, ... ?

2015-04-03 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 02/04/2015 23:51, Chris Kalin a écrit : Avahi going away, or at least not being a requirement for CUPS, would be nice. (Or a cups-noavahi). I'm running a corporate network with statically defined printers, I don't need or want my print server trying to autodetect anything. Cups is a

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Please do not Cc me personally on your reply. Am Donnerstag, 2. April 2015, 20:30:23 schrieb T.J. Duchene: > > Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *very* long, you > > need to reboot the home router to get a new IP and even then you may > > get the same IP. It's not that dynamic, a

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread marcxdv
> > I used to work for multiple ISPs, and I can tell you a few things for what > little they are worth. The source and destination IPs are tagged on each > packet sent over Internet. If you are tracking someone from a browser, which > is a higher level protocol than DNS, you have no need to cor

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 03/04/2015 11:10, marc...@welz.org.za a écrit : Could it be we have some sort of Stockholm Syndrome where people whose data is captured at google start emphasising with the captor ? Or maybe we dimly remember that somewhere they use Linux and claimed that they weren't doing evil, s

Re: [Dng] nameservers

2015-04-03 Thread Gulbrandsen
I have always thought that Google DNS is an attack against the ISPs that want to use their resolvers to act as gatekeepers, divert their customers to a different site, inject ads etc. Google needs your ability to access the real net for its profit. Arnt

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 3. April 2015, 10:35:45 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > That said, the fallback DNS is only used if no other DNS is configured. > Which IMHO is quite unusually. I think not even then, cause I think systemd-resolved is not used, unless activated and configured to be used in nsswitch.con

Re: [Dng] X and GPUs

2015-04-03 Thread Ron
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 20:46:13 -0600 Gordon Haverland wrote: > Originally, the reason people bought graphics cards (or better graphics > cards) was to improve graphics performance. Which to a dinosaur like > me means X11 and X servers. With due respect, your Worship, the reason people originally b

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

2015-04-03 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Franco Lanza wrote: > Personally on debian i was using from date > > APT:Install-Recommends "0"; > APT:Install-Suggests "0"; +1 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:52:46PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Adam Borowski [mailto:kilob...@angband.pl] > > > > Then why not set up a recursor by default? Benefits include: > > * avoiding this privacy issue > > * caching > > * secure DNSSEC (no last

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 09:40:09PM +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:52 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > DNS calls are nonspecific > > data, associated only with your carrier's dynamic IP address, not a specific > > user. > > Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *ve

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread william moss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/03/2015 10:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:52:46PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Adam Borowski [mailto:kilob...@angband.pl] >>> >>> Then why not set up a recursor by default?

[Dng] [OT]I have been liberated!

2015-04-03 Thread Go Linux
I just unsubscribed from debian-user! It was time to say good-bye and move on . . . ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

2015-04-03 Thread Anto
On 03/04/15 00:36, Franco Lanza wrote: Personally on debian i was using from date APT:Install-Recommends "0"; APT:Install-Suggests "0"; in all my install apt.conf. I don't like apt downloading and installing things that are not required but just recommended or suggested, expecially in server o

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

2015-04-03 Thread Anto
On 03/04/15 01:53, hellekin wrote: Oh, did I just announce the Devuan forum? You did! And I just registered myself there. The login form seems to support the synchronisation with Gitlab account, which I also already registered a few months back. But I got nginx 404 error when I clicked on

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Jim Jackson
> > Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *very* long, you > > need to reboot the home router to get a new IP and even then you may > > get the same IP. It's not that dynamic, at all. Add that with data > > your browser provides, your *.google.com in|direct usage, etc... it's > > easy

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

2015-04-03 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 4/3/15, Anto wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency? To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, April 3, 2015, 11:28 AM On 03/04/15 01:53, hellekin wrote: > Oh, did I just announce the Devuan forum? You did! And I just registered mysel

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Nate Bargmann
In my case I prefer OpenWRT which uses dnsmasq to handle the task of LAN IP assignments and name resolution. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread marc
> If I recall correctly, so far *every* Linux I've used uses an external > DNS by default instead of installing its own recursor. > > I figure there must be a reason, but I don't know what it is. So a cache becomes more efficient if several machines use it - especially given the branching/hierar

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 03 April 2015 22:55:58 marc wrote: > I believe some distributions already use things like dnsmasq > to do simpler caching Maemo (N900) using dnsmasq and even my more ancient wrt54g 2nd level router with "Firmware: DD-WRT v24- sp2 (07/22/09) mini" o

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Wim
Hi Marc, P2P dns springs to mind. But it seems to have no recent development... https://github.com/Mononofu/P2P-DNS http://sourceforge.net/projects/p2pdns/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtdnsp2p/ http://qtdnsp2p.sourceforge.net/ You could also have a look at MaidSafe, for P2P cloud storage an

[Dng] Call for factoids on the Debian fork

2015-04-03 Thread hellekin
Hello dears, one of the current tasks of the Devuan Editors is to gather facts about the Debian fork in order to write a compelling story to be told on debianfork.org. This domain will hopefully be the place to deflect and defuse any troll about the Debian fork and systemd, in order to focus devu

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread T.J. Duchene
> -Original Message- > From: Martin Steigerwald [mailto:mar...@lichtvoll.de] > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 3:36 AM > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan > > Please do not Cc me personally on your reply. [T.J. ] Apologies. "Reply to a