On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:25:00PM +0200, toto titi wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> and thank you to all of you for this fork.
> Do you plan to get rid of pulseaudio and avahi as well, or do you just
> focus on systemd ?
What are your problems with pulse being in the repos? It doesn't force
dependencies on it
On Thu 02 April 2015 13:09:41 Jack L. Frost wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:25:00PM +0200, toto titi wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> > and thank you to all of you for this fork.
> > Do you plan to get rid of pulseaudio and avahi as well, or do you just
> > focus on systemd ?
>
> What are your problems w
> devuan is not about depoetterizing, it's about freedom of choice. Since
> systemd deprives user from his freedom to choose init system (and a lot of
> other subsystems) it has to go. For the rest devuan doesn't care - as long as
> it doesn't as well introduce conflicts with alternative package
>Given the fraction of replies you got so far devoted to the puppy
>(100%) and to the technical content (0%), I suspect this community's
>hearts are in the right place.
>-- hendrik
^ +1
Linux O'Beardly
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:45 AM, H
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 01:47:17PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote:
> > devuan is not about depoetterizing, it's about freedom of choice. Since
> > systemd deprives user from his freedom to choose init system (and a lot of
> > other subsystems) it has to go. For the rest devuan doesn't care - as long
Great list! Thanks everybody for your input, because for those of us who
aren't programmers, this helps clarify a lot of the reason why systemd is
less than ideal from a technical perspective. I'm more of a "if I can't
read it or write it in vi or manipulate it via a bash script, then it
doesn't
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 07:15:38AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
On my system, reverse depends for pulseaudio shows such
packages as mpg123, which shouldn't have an opinion about
But mpg123 neither depends on nor recommends pulseaudio. It only suggests
pulseaudio together with jackd, alsa-utils and
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 07:28:27PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 07:15:38AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> >On my system, reverse depends for pulseaudio shows such
> >packages as mpg123, which shouldn't have an opinion about
>
> But mpg123 neither depends on nor recommends pulse
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Borowski [mailto:kilob...@angband.pl]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:41 PM
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan
>
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:38:07PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> > [T.J. ] To b
I do not have any problem at the present time. It's just that I don't
like the programmes written by LP.
I don't trust him. I don't want Linux to become a new W1nd0w$.
He's obfuscating the system's behaviour.
On 04/02/2015 12:09 PM, Jack L. Frost wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:25:00PM +0200
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:52 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> DNS calls are nonspecific
> data, associated only with your carrier's dynamic IP address, not a specific
> user.
Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *very* long, you
need to reboot the home router to get a new IP and even then y
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 10:34:00PM +0200, toto titi wrote:
> I do not have any problem at the present time. It's just that I don't
> like the programmes written by LP.
> I don't trust him. I don't want Linux to become a new W1nd0w$.
> He's obfuscating the system's behaviour.
That could be a wiki a
Avahi going away, or at least not being a requirement for CUPS, would be nice.
(Or a cups-noavahi). I'm running a corporate network with statically defined
printers, I don't need or want my print server trying to autodetect anything.
Chris Kalin
Sr. Network Engineer
"Leading Upward Mobility"
Personally on debian i was using from date
APT:Install-Recommends "0";
APT:Install-Suggests "0";
in all my install apt.conf.
I don't like apt downloading and installing things that are not required
but just recommended or suggested, expecially in server or embedded
envs, but also on my desktop.
I'm all for it. If there are a set of packages that usually get installed
together, we can create a metapackage for them.
-Jude
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Franco Lanza wrote:
> Personally on debian i was using from date
>
> APT:Install-Recommends "0";
> APT:Install-Suggests "0";
>
> in al
On 04/02/2015 07:36 PM, Franco Lanza wrote:
> Personally on debian i was using from date
>
> APT:Install-Recommends "0";
> APT:Install-Suggests "0";
>
> What do you think if we make this the default in devuan?
>
*** +1. I'm all for minimalism in Devuan, and encouraging people to use
Blends for e
> -Original Message-
> From: Franco Lanza [mailto:next...@nexlab.it]
> Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 5:36 PM
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Subject: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends"
> dependency?
>
> Personally on debian i was using from date
>
> APT:Install-Rec
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 09:27:36AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 07:28:27PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 07:15:38AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > >On my system, reverse depends for pulseaudio shows such
> > >packages as mpg123, which shouldn't have an op
>
> Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *very* long, you need to
> reboot the home router to get a new IP and even then you may get the
> same IP. It's not that dynamic, at all. Add that with data your browser
> provides, your *.google.com in|direct usage, etc... it's easy to correl
I briefly looked over a threaded list of the many topics that I haven't
read, and none seem to address this.
Originally, the reason people bought graphics cards (or better graphics
cards) was to improve graphics performance. Which to a dinosaur like
me means X11 and X servers.
I am slowly learni
On Thu 02 April 2015 20:30:23 T.J. Duchene wrote:
> > Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *very* long, you need
> > to
> > reboot the home router to get a new IP and even then you may get the
> > same IP. It's not that dynamic, at all. Add that with data your browser
> > provides, yo
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