Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

2015-03-06 Thread Neo Futur
> the Grsecurity/Pax hardening of the kernel, will you think of it, > instead of SELinux, or as an option besides SELinux? It sure will be > attainable in the way I got it in Debian in that Tip, but official > support would be so great! https://git.devuan.org/groups/hardened we are a few guys pla

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

2015-03-06 Thread Gravis
> If I understand what you are saying you mean that a link to site A which links > to copyrighted material on site B is itself a violation of copyright. no, what i mean is that he was the one who uploaded the clips to youtube, got banned from youtube and then posted the links on a forum to the cli

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

2015-03-06 Thread Jaromil
On 6 March 2015 09:06:45 CET, Neo Futur wrote: >> the Grsecurity/Pax hardening of the kernel, will you think of it, >> instead of SELinux, or as an option besides SELinux? It sure will be >> attainable in the way I got it in Debian in that Tip, but official >> support would be so great! > >https

Re: [Dng] apt repository?

2015-03-06 Thread karl
Jaromil: > hi Karl, Gravis, Hi! > On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > Gravis: > > > deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ unstable main ... > > W: Failed to fetch > > http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/binary-amd64/Packages > > Hash Sum mismat

Re: [Dng] apt repository?

2015-03-06 Thread Luke Diamand
Is there anything you need help with on this? On 6 March 2015 at 11:04, wrote: > Jaromil: >> hi Karl, Gravis, > > Hi! > >> On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> > Gravis: >> > > deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ unstable main > ... >> > W: Failed to fetch >> > h

Re: [Dng] apt repository?

2015-03-06 Thread Jaromil
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, Luke Diamand wrote: > Is there anything you need help with on this? later on yes, mirroring and perhaps hosting Jenkins builder arms like Martijn is already doing I believe. However Nextime will have more informations and we will have instructions for various levels of partic

Re: [Dng] release names

2015-03-06 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 05/03/2015 02:36, Ricardo Larrañaga a écrit : So, basically we will be using mithology for names. Ahead on the list it gets a little more variety, but initially is mostly gods and godess It could start with an offset, say Charon, the companion of Pluto. Not so fancy, but not a god a

Re: [Dng] release names

2015-03-06 Thread Anto
On 06/03/15 16:07, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 05/03/2015 02:36, Ricardo Larrañaga a écrit : So, basically we will be using mithology for names. Ahead on the list it gets a little more variety, but initially is mostly gods and godess It could start with an offset, say Charon, the companion o

Re: [Dng] release names

2015-03-06 Thread Ron
Unless we are really intent on aping Debian and xBuntu, how about not using a name at all, but only a number; maybe split in Major and Minor ? Cheers, Ron. -- The right to be heard does not include the right to be taken seriously.

Re: [Dng] [bikeshedding] release names

2015-03-06 Thread hellekin
This thread is not about changing the release names. Read the first message. Do you have time on you hands? Please help review this week's postings for the next weekly news. There's also a TODO list on the gitlab. Seriously... https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/devuan-codename

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

2015-03-06 Thread miroslav . rovis1
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 10:25:53AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > > > On 6 March 2015 09:06:45 CET, Neo Futur wrote: > >> the Grsecurity/Pax hardening of the kernel, will you think of it, > >> instead of SELinux, or as an option besides SELinux? It sure will be > >> attainable in the way I got it in De

[Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-06 Thread hellekin
On 03/06/15 05:06, Neo Futur wrote: >> the Grsecurity/Pax hardening of the kernel, will you think of it, >> instead of SELinux, or as an option besides SELinux? It sure will be >> attainable in the way I got it in Debian in that Tip, but official >> support would be so great! > > https://git.devua

[Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

2015-03-06 Thread T.J. Duchene
I'm somewhat confused here. I'm not arguing against anyone expressing opinions, but what does all this chatter about "big brother" and "I don't trust Google" accomplish? We were talking about Chromium, not Chrome. There is a HUGE difference. If someone has issue with the code, it's open. G

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

2015-03-06 Thread Jaromil
dear Miroslav, On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, miroslav.rov...@zg.ht.hr wrote: > I hope to be able to continue my Grsecurity/Pax Deployment in Devuan for > the Newbies (or of a similar title), like I did in Debian Forums (see my > first message in this thread). And about the rest of non-poeterware (and > r

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-06 Thread Jaromil
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, hellekin wrote: > GRSecurity, and Knock support. Knock is a kernel patch that enables > single packet port knocking [0], thwarting common scanning attacks. I > would love to see this running on Devuan. Parabola GNU/Linux was the > first distro to deploy it, and I've been u

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

2015-03-06 Thread Stefan Ott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/06/2015 08:06 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > That said, the reason I suggested Chromium as an alternative to > Firefox is that essentially a better piece of software. It has > better features, better support for Web standards, and it is more > acti

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 03:19:29PM -0300, hellekin wrote: > *** I'm so happy to see this group. I've been using this kernel lately, > running on Parabola: > > 3.14.34-gnu-201502271838-1-lts-grsec-knock > > GRSecurity, and Knock support. Knock is a kernel patch that enables > single packet por

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-06 Thread Neo Futur
at the beginning we plan : * to use only the pax options of the grsec kernel, no rbac enabled * to work on vanilla sources or gentoo hardened sources * no debian patches, no exotic patches * shipping the kernel with warnings that, as a default, java wont work with a secure kernel, and possibly any

[Dng] apt repository - mirrors

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Storey
I just want to chime in and say that I live in Taiwan and have some connections with the local Debian/Ubuntu and other geek communities. When we've finally got a Devuan release version 1.0, I'm willing to push, prod and pull the Taiwanese techie universities to get at least one mirror going here. I

[Dng] Devuan Alpha i386 - developers release series on Vagrant

2015-03-06 Thread Jaromil
Hi all, This is the initial release of the Alpha series, base-system stripped at minimum and distributed in Vagrant format (virtualbox provider), to make the life of developers working on core components as vdev easier. Vagrant is a very cool tool, check it out http://vagrantup.com I'll distrib

Re: [Dng] Devuan Alpha i386 - developers release series on Vagrant

2015-03-06 Thread Jude Nelson
Woo! I can't wait to start testing with vdev :D Thank you to everyone involved! -Jude On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Jaromil wrote: > > Hi all, > > This is the initial release of the Alpha series, base-system stripped at > minimum and distributed in Vagrant format (virtualbox provider), to m

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-06 Thread Neo Futur
also answering here to jaromil about a grsec question on another thread : On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Jaromil wrote: >> I hope to be able to continue my Grsecurity/Pax Deployment in Devuan for >> the Newbies (or of a similar title), like I did in Debian Forums (see my >> first message in th

[Dng] Ubuntu To Officially Switch To systemd Next Monday

2015-03-06 Thread Martijn Dekkers
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/03/06/1448247/ubuntu-to-officially-switch-to-systemd-next-monday Interesting discussion on slashdot, especially about the Ubuntu Release Schedule ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi

Re: [Dng] Devuan Alpha i386 - developers release series on Vagrant

2015-03-06 Thread Neo Futur
FYI vagrant cant be used on a grsec host, builing it need java ( meaning stack exec and more ) ==> grsec.log <== Mar 7 04:05:17 xena kernel: grsec: From x.x.x.x : denied RWX mmap of by /var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/virtualbox-4.3.18/work/VirtualBox-4.3.18/out/linux.x86/release/obj/VBoxTpG/VBoxT

Re: [Dng] Devuan Alpha i386 - developers release series on Vagrant

2015-03-06 Thread hellekin
On 03/06/15 22:11, Jaromil wrote: > > vagrant init jaromil/devuan-alpha-i386 > *** Nice. Can you add libvirt and/or lxc providers? https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-vagrant == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Founda

Re: [Dng] [bikeshedding] release names

2015-03-06 Thread P. T. Zoltowski
Sorry, it's probably my fault, and I should start a new thread for it. Just let me explain what I really meant, it wasn't actually about release names, but for some ideas for Devuan, it happens that they influence these names also, so I put it here. I thought one of possibilities could be the split